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I'm curious, does Chaos have anything analagous to the Imperium's concept of heresy? Of course, there's always treachery, but then again, the Chaos Gods are always stabbing each other in the back. Also, given the fact that there are several prominent traitor legions that serve Chaos Undivided, certain individuals can hedge their bets and not exclusively serve one power. The closest example I can think of is Khorne getting angry when a follower does not kill every single day.
   
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Anything that does not promote the interests or desires of a Chaos god is equivalent to heresy to that god. They call the Emperor "Anathema" because his goal is to starve them of belief and worship, so anything having to do with the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed or the cult of Emperor worship is "heresy" to Chaos.

 
   
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 Luciferian wrote:
Anything that does not promote the interests or desires of a Chaos god is equivalent to heresy to that god. They call the Emperor "Anathema" because his goal is to starve them of belief and worship, so anything having to do with the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed or the cult of Emperor worship is "heresy" to Chaos.


That's interesting considering that the original Imperial Truth is now considered heresy in the Imperium (and it was arguably more dangerous to chaos than the worship of the Emperor).
   
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Yep, that's the grimdarkness of the state of the Imperium in the 41st millennium: it had a chance for success and to be rid of the threat of chaos by rejecting belief in gods (even though that was a lie and gods do exist) but now the only thing really sustaining them is that they worship the Emperor as a god instead of the Chaos powers, and their best weapon against Chaos is strictly verboten.

Whether or not they have turned the Emperor into a bonafide warp god, or have created a new warp god through their Emperor worship, is something yet to be revealed.

 
   
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Wasn't Malice/Malal supposed to be the deity forged from hatred of Chaos? I know that Malal is gone due to copyright reasons, but the name was changed to Malice and the concept is still at least somewhat canon.
   
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I vaguely recall a line in the black legion novels that the chaos marines, like their loyalist counterparts, see xenos in general as filthy and untrustworthy. Not heresy exactly but still some extreme xenophobia.

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Yeah I do recall that Chaos marines are as xenophobic as the imperial ones. Logical as they were imperial and so were trained / educated the same way

   
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For something to be "heresy" across the entirety of chaos there would have to be unity within chaos, which... obviously isn't how the faction works. A specific god may have a specific anathema or a marine may get ostracized for his actions but as long as you're strong enough to back up what you want to do you can do anything you want.
   
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The answer is yes. Chaos have multiple ideologies and are not a unified force. Anything not pertaining to their own god will be considered heresy (particularly Khorne vs Slaanesh and Nurgle vs Tzeentch). Additionally, the Word Bearers see any Chaos force solely focusing on worshiping one single god as heretics, since this is not how they view the Ruinous Power should be.
   
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Is not cloning generally seen as something heretical to do? Remember from "The talon of Horus" that the idea that Fabius bile were using cloning were seen as a step to far even for Chaos space marines.

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I think the issue there was what they were cloning.

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The heresy as defined by Chaos is: That there is no reasonable Lost and the damned Codex / the R&H fw list is gak.

Jokes aside: Xeno's however, Daemonengines have Xeno technology inbuilt somtimes, the laser array for the decimator comes to mind. So Xenos that are not Chaos worshippers are heresy. On the other hand the Dark mechanicum is proabaly a bit more gone into all means justified through the end sooooooooo.

There is that one story of the Tau uniting a world that was permanently holding a bloody tournament, they stopped that and then promptly got a visit by the WB which massacered even more and prayed for forgiveness to khorne.

Nurgle: Soap, nuff said.

Malal/Malice: Considering they still are found as generic renegades. Hinting that there are more minor deeities then the big 4.

I guess for Khorne the concept of lasting peace is heresey (except you do regular ritual showfights?!?)

Slaaneshs counter /heretical concept would probably self controll? I dunno i am no slaaneshy.

Tzeentch: Ambitionless following and preference of stagnation. (probably why he hates nurgle so much.)


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There is probably the idea of heresey to the mortal followers of chaos gods. But the actual gods don’t have a list of rules or code of conduct. They are gods of “chaos”. I’m sure they could be offended and annoyed but I don’t see them having committees and rules booklets. Mortals on the other hand, even chaos worshipping ones love a bit of structure.
   
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Andykp wrote:
There is probably the idea of heresey to the mortal followers of chaos gods. But the actual gods don’t have a list of rules or code of conduct. They are gods of “chaos”. I’m sure they could be offended and annoyed but I don’t see them having committees and rules booklets. Mortals on the other hand, even chaos worshipping ones love a bit of structure.


Shh don't say that around word Bearers.

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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
 
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