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Calling it now, imperial knights will get an equivalent to infernal households, because how dare chaos have something that the imperium doesn’t.

I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

I'd guesse that most of the new rules content will be mechanicus judging by the number of new models they're getting.

I'd guess a load of new Mechanicum rules as they're getting an unreasonable amount of models, new rules that make Knight variants essentially the same and Demons will get a new character.

I think that the Mechanicum will get a new codex and that engine war will be mostly knight stuff.

I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

Maybe but if Admech just gets a new codex instead they might not actually apper.

if thats the case it'll be three factions, thats what PA 4 has and it's got plenty of content.

BrianDavion wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

Maybe but if Admech just gets a new codex instead they might not actually apper.

if thats the case it'll be three factions, thats what PA 4 has and it's got plenty of content.

We know they appear, they showed a graphic.

 Stux wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

Maybe but if Admech just gets a new codex instead they might not actually apper.

if thats the case it'll be three factions, thats what PA 4 has and it's got plenty of content.

We know they appear, they showed a graphic.

we saw a graphic for sisters of battle who got their boxed set rather then anything in F&F

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that any of the factions are getting as much as the BA/DA supplement content in the last two PA books, so that should increase how much space is available per faction. Even if space is used to reprint all the AdMech datasheets not currently in their 'dex - and allowing for the previewed units - there should be plenty of room for content for t'other three factions.

Is space that much of a premium?

Dark Eldar Salt incoming, but Knights and Chaos Knights could get literally two pages of rules covering some "alternate" traits. Oh, and a name generator.

Pheonix Rising had about 45 pages dedicated to "rules" (well, including all the pictures as well). Faith and Fury had about 65.

Really don't think space is an issue. Say 24 pages for Ad Mech, 20 for Daemons, 10 each for the knights. Thats only 64 pages.

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

2cp auto pass?

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The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Don't daemons replenish their units on a morale roll of a 6? Seems like a way to mitigate LD tests to me?

It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

Rihgu wrote:
It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

Not hard to keep the ICON bearer. As Daed mentioned there's also an autopass for 2CP. They have more morale mitigation options than most.

 Dysartes wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that any of the factions are getting as much as the BA/DA supplement content in the last two PA books, so that should increase how much space is available per faction. Even if space is used to reprint all the AdMech datasheets not currently in their 'dex - and allowing for the previewed units - there should be plenty of room for content for t'other three factions.

There's at least 10 units(2 Skorpius variants, 2 cavalry, 2 winged crazies, 3 flyers, 1 Techpriest Manipulus) for the AdMech...and there was a hinting that this wasn't everything.

I wouldn't be shocked if this ends up as a Vigilus Ablaze situation, where there's a reprinted book and a full accounting of the units in the campaign bit.

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's at least 10 units(2 Skorpius variants, 2 cavalry, 2 winged crazies, 3 flyers, 1 Techpriest Manipulus) for the AdMech...and there was a hinting that this wasn't everything.

There's still rumours (and rumour engine pics) of a Skitarii HQ and a special character (wielding the lump of blackstone).

I would love to see daemons get their rules for summoning buffed in some way, either a discount on unit costs that are in a "summoning pool" or better rules for pulling them out of the warp.

As swingy and random as it was, I kind of liked the idea in previous editions where daemons were an all deep strike army.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that any of the factions are getting as much as the BA/DA supplement content in the last two PA books, so that should increase how much space is available per faction. Even if space is used to reprint all the AdMech datasheets not currently in their 'dex - and allowing for the previewed units - there should be plenty of room for content for t'other three factions.

There's at least 10 units(2 Skorpius variants, 2 cavalry, 2 winged crazies, 3 flyers, 1 Techpriest Manipulus) for the AdMech...and there was a hinting that this wasn't everything.

I wouldn't be shocked if this ends up as a Vigilus Ablaze situation, where there's a reprinted book and a full accounting of the units in the campaign bit.

I change my prediction. Its gonna be 70% imperium (50% admech, 20% knights), and 30% chaos (20% daemons, 10% knights).

Frankly, if I were to 'predict' anything?

AdMech will get their units, updated Canticles, and potentially "Make Your Own Forge World" perks. Maybe some kind of "Special Issue Wargear" list again for Skitarii Alphas/Princeps and Onagers in squadrons again.
Knights will get a "Make Your Own Household" list.
Chaos Knights will get the same as Knights.
Daemons will get an 'allegiance ability' allowing for a purely Daemon army to get some crazy swag.

Also going to predict an AdMech Codex 2nd Edition(distinct from a Codex 2.0) with the new stuff put in.

Daemons get a 1cp strat to negate a Grey Knight Tide for the whole turn.

 Sim-Life wrote:
Daemons get a 1cp strat to negate a Grey Knight Tide for the whole turn.

ohh come now that's too weak. it also imposes a penalty to their armor save! gotta keep deamons compeitive agaisnt grey knights!

Its going to be how every other PA that had both Imperials and Chaos factions in it. The Imperial stuff gets all the good rules and the Chaos stuff is thrown in as an after thought!

I'm only mostly joking. But I'm still woefully let down by my 1ksons stuff.

The Salt Mine wrote:
Its going to be how every other PA that had both Imperials and Chaos factions in it. The Imperial stuff gets all the good rules and the Chaos stuff is thrown in as an after thought!

I'm only mostly joking. But I'm still woefully let down by my 1ksons stuff.

I know the feeling. I love the stuff Faith and Fury gave my Night Lords but the fact that they basically broke up a talent for murder between a warlord trait and a stratagem tells me they'll probably never get it as a legion trait.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Don't daemons replenish their units on a morale roll of a 6? Seems like a way to mitigate LD tests to me?

Nothing that swingy gets to count as mitigation.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

Not hard to keep the ICON bearer. As Daed mentioned there's also an autopass for 2CP. They have more morale mitigation options than most.

Wait, what?

*goes to recheck codex*

Yeah, not seeing that. Where might I find this rule?

The Newman wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Don't daemons replenish their units on a morale roll of a 6? Seems like a way to mitigate LD tests to me?

Nothing that swingy gets to count as mitigation.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

Not hard to keep the ICON bearer. As Daed mentioned there's also an autopass for 2CP. They have more morale mitigation options than most.

Wait, what?

*goes to recheck codex*

Yeah, not seeing that. Where might I find this rule?

The 2CP auto pass moral is a core rule book stratagem along with interrupting close combat and the re roll a dice single dice. But yeah daemon codex moral mitigation is pretty trash compared to most other horde armies that just get to straight up ignore it most of the time.

They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

Daemons need some overall rules to benefit taking a mixed god army.

The fact that the book is essentially divided into quarters at the moment is absurd.

 Argive wrote:
They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

.... that's a pretty solid trait actually. or do CWE not have any infantry that can be taken in large blocks or no vehicles they can use?