Author |
Message |
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
|
2020/08/20 15:57:47
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
How do?
Clocked this on the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53846634
No word on who the character is, but reports it’s a female superhero. Given how much of the stable Marvel proper have clawed back, smart money seems to be on Spider Woman, possibly the Jessica Drew incarnation.
Various tweets embedded in the report, but may just be happenstance and not necessarily ‘nod and a wink’ teasers.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/20 16:11:06
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Norn Queen
|
I don't think Sony has the rights to spider woman. shes not actually a spiderman related property despite the name.
|
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
|
|
|
|
2020/08/20 16:24:34
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Seems it’s another MCU tie in, as opposed to their own Venomverse.
Also, currently unconfirmed it’s a female character.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/20 17:00:29
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
So long as it features interesting characters and a decent story I'll watch it.
|
CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
My job here is done. |
|
|
|
2020/08/20 19:14:39
Subject: Re:Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
|
Yeah, providing the writing and acting are on point it should easily work and be a success. There's plenty of interesting, well played female characters already within the MCU, they do it fairly easily.
Shame about captain marvel making such a film have to jump through hoops though, Brie Larson was poor casting in the sense she is just an underwhelming actress, underwhelming being a key word as she always seems underwhelmed in all movies I've seen her in.
This isn't anything related to the typical backlash she receives mind, I'm old and ugly enough to not get offended by women wanting equality, I just think she was a poor choice and she ruined the captain marvel film, which has some flaws but is a pretty decent entry into the MCU storywise etc...
It would be interesting to see what she comes under if she doesn't come under the spiderverse... Spider-Gwen comes under Sony (or you'd presume) after into the spider-verse, and she's a version of spider-woman, or could be argued is anyway...
|
My hobby instagram account: @the_shroud_of_vigilance
My Shroud of Vigilance Hobby update blog for me detailed updates and lore on the faction:
Blog |
|
|
|
2020/08/20 21:34:39
Subject: Re:Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Executing Exarch
|
Anything has to be a step up from Brie looking mildy put out across time and space in her usual beige curtains acting style.
Fingers crossed its someone new with little or no prior MCU connection
|
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED." |
|
|
|
2020/08/20 22:01:40
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Walking Dead Wraithlord
|
Really hope its not another incarnation of spider-humin. The saturation is worse than batman, and as far as Im concerned they keep failing... The 90's cartoon was the only spider man that needs to exist on any screen If it is true I guess Sony is juts trashing the IP before handing it over back to disney. As otherwise I don't understand why they hand over High profile IP to someone who has never directed anything substantial int heir life as a first major project. But hey ho... I believe sony owns the xmen and spidey Ip right? I know there some weird thing they got going on with marvel concerning those IP. Really hope they go with some unique Marvel character for this.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/20 22:02:22
|
|
|
|
2020/08/20 23:00:37
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Terrifying Doombull
|
I believe sony owns the xmen and spidey Ip right?
Nope. Fox had the X-stuff rights. Since they sold 20th Century Fox to Disney (who has kept them vaguely intact as '20th Century Studios,' at least so far), Marvel has them (and Fantastic Four).
Which is why the New Mutants are finally staggering out into Covid-ridden movie theatres.
Spiderman (and venom) are the major ones outside the Disney stable, though Universal has some non-exclusive claims on Hulk, Namor, and She-Hulk.
|
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2020/08/20 23:04:18
Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
|
|
|
2020/08/21 00:38:08
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
There's also news about a Kraven the Hunter film, which is a shame for two reasons:
1. Sony doesn't need to make movies about individual Spidey villains just to pad out the lincense.
2. It'd be way cooler to have him in the next Spider-Man MCU film, hunting the "murderous fugitive terrorist" Spider-Man.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 01:30:44
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Pustulating Plague Priest
|
Wasn’t there discussion of a Black Cat film in the schedule somewhere? It’s a Spidey IP and a female character. Maybe this is the one that’s coming up?
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/21 01:31:10
Faithful... Enlightened... Ambitious... Brethren... WE NEED A NEW DRIVER! THIS ONE IS DEAD! |
|
|
|
2020/08/21 02:03:14
Subject: Re:Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
|
Black Cat to me seems pretty underwhelming to base a movie around, but... who knows.
Spider-Woman seems a lot more compelling. If they use the detective part of her background, they basically can Venn diagram the best parts of Jessica Jones and Spidey, and I think they're golden.
Obviously, the one they really should make would be Spider-Gwen, but I have no idea what the rights situation is around her.
Olivia Wilde for director is a maybe risky choice. I like her just fine as an actress, but she's really only directed a single full-length movie, right? Booksmart was pretty good for sure - so she has that going for her - but I have to imagine there are some growing pains between making a $6 million dollar movie and making a $100 million movie. I just looked up every single MCU and DCEU director, and I think she would be tied with Cathy Yan for the least experienced director so far.
With the MCU, you have the institutional stuff to lean on; but the Sony universe doesn't have pretty much any support - either in terms of developed shared universe already established (since they have only like, Venom) or studio cred (since the last 2 Sony Spider-man movies sucked) - one really bad movie at this early juncture could, I think, potentially sink the fledging non-collaborative Sony Spiderverse and relegate them to just licensing out to Marvel, or doing collabs like they did with Into the Spider-Verse. And both of those options are better than the current MCU fragmentation, so honestly, I think we're winners either way.
On the other other (other?) hand, she has exec produced a bunch.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/21 02:04:53
lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
|
|
|
2020/08/21 03:53:36
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
|
Taika Waititi had not done anything with a budget anything like Ragnarok prior to directing that either, afaik?
So it isn't without precedent.
|
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Ask me about
Barnstaple Slayers Club |
|
|
|
2020/08/21 05:49:46
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Norn Queen
|
I dont think the issue is budget and director here. Its sony interfereing in any spiderman property they control.
Oliva making a movie controlled 100% by sony isnt going to be like booksmart because of the oversite and for sure changes they will make her do.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/21 06:01:02
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 07:47:16
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Well, they seem to have learnt their lesson with the last two Spidey movies. I guess that’s the benefit of Disney having laid so much groundwork that it’s kind of a no brainier.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 08:26:43
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Norn Queen
|
Did they? Venom was an entirely bland nothing of a movie because of studio interference. It was a Pg 13 mess with a 3rd act where indistinguishable blobs of cgi did indistinguishable blobs of cgi stuff to each other exactly like a DC movie where the 3rd act is just smoke and lightning against a dead green screen back drop. While some good moments were in the movie, the post credit seen with the most laughable wig I have ever seen on Woody Harrleson sums up the movie pretty well. It's famous actors put on screen with the lowest common denominators for action and story to nulify anything interesting about the characters and strip any vision the director might have from the final work because they don't want anyone drawing outside the lines. Cap it off with the fact that they cast a man (who is a great actor whos work I love but is incredibly miscast for the part) who is about to turn 60 as Cassidy/Carnage and you can be damn sure that the sequel will have very little Woody in it at all. Oh he will do some voice acting. for the "stunt double" they might use in the ping pong ball suit if they don't just decide to CGI carnage whole sale is who we are going to be watching on screen. Sony hasn't learned gak. Venoms success tells them to take more control.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/21 08:28:32
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 08:50:03
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Yet this seems to be an MCU entry?
Hard to tell as it doesn’t seem to be fully confirmed.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 10:26:59
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
If it's a Sony property then it likely won't be.
Shame. I like Spider-Woman. Having her in the MCU would be fun.
Double shame that Sony has the rights to her, given that she has nothing to do with Spider-Man and really only exists so that DC couldn't take the name (much like Marvel scooped up Wonder Man after Wonder Woman was a hit).
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 12:42:36
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Linked article is a bit ambiguous in its wording there.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/21 23:54:48
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
So have any MGTOW/MRA types sent her death threats yet?
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/22 18:39:26
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..." |
|
|
|
2020/08/22 00:11:39
Subject: Re:Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Ouze wrote:Black Cat to me seems pretty underwhelming to base a movie around, but... who knows.
Spider-Woman seems a lot more compelling. If they use the detective part of her background, they basically can Venn diagram the best parts of Jessica Jones and Spidey, and I think they're golden.
Obviously, the one they really should make would be Spider-Gwen, but I have no idea what the rights situation is around her.
Olivia Wilde for director is a maybe risky choice. I like her just fine as an actress, but she's really only directed a single full-length movie, right?
She could just cast herself as the lead!
|
Mr Vetock, give back my Multi-tracker! |
|
|
|
2020/08/22 08:15:02
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Executing Exarch
|
most likely saving their sillyness for Fandome
|
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED." |
|
|
|
2020/08/23 04:29:50
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I understand what you're saying but calling what some of these creeps do 'silliness' is really softballing it. They've swatted female game designers and directors, threatened to rape and murder them, stalked them, etc. That's not silliness, that's pretty much evil.
|
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..." |
|
|
|
2020/08/24 04:07:45
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Walking Dead Wraithlord
|
What are MGTOW/MRA types and what does that mean ?
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/24 04:47:53
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
This thread veered into some very imaginary/hypothetical areas, all of which have virtually nothing to do with Olivia Wilde directing a Spider-Woman movie.
|
|
|
|
|
2020/08/24 08:28:39
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
Not sure about MGTOW, but MRA is often used for "Men's Rights Activists".
|
2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
|
|
|
2020/08/24 10:49:39
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Revving Ravenwing Biker
Wrexham, North Wales
|
Via Google:
Search Results
Featured snippet from the web
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist, misogynist, mostly online community advocating for men to separate themselves from women and from a society which they believe has been destroyed by feminism.
They seem nice....
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/24 10:49:58
|
|
|
|
2020/08/24 11:42:11
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
|
This has nothing to do with the topic.
|
lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
|
|
|
2020/08/24 13:12:05
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
|
You can almost make a softball team of Spider Women/Girls
Off the top of my head:
Jessica Drew brunette Spider Woman
Wasshername blonde Spider Woman
May Parker, daughter of Peter, Spider Girl
Wasshername, John Byrne's brown-haired Spider Woman
Archane or something, Hispanic Spider Woman
Silk, Korean Spider Woman
Spider Gwen
If I were Sony I'd want a Spider Woman/Girl name and would guess that they can claim rights to at least one of the seven.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/08/24 13:12:38
|
|
|
|
2020/08/24 14:00:32
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
Jessica Drew was the brunette - also impersonated by a Skrull Queen for a long period of time.
Julia Carpenter was the blonde - has also operated as Arachne and Madame Web.
Mattie Franklin would be John Byrne's Spider-Woman - though she's currently dead.
Mayday Parker was the MC2 Spider-Girl, the daughter of Peter and MJ.
Anya Corazon is the Hispanic Spider-Girl, having originally used Araña as a codename.
Silk is Cindy Moon, a Korean-American heroine with Spider powers.
Spider-Gwen/Ghost-Spider is an alternate Gwen Stacy.
|
2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
|
|
|
2020/08/24 14:17:43
Subject: Olivia Wilde to direct a Marvel movie for Sony
|
|
Norn Queen
|
Jessica Drews origins also have her spend her early career as a brainwashed Hydra agent before breaking free of their control and defecting to shield.
Again, I am unsure how Sony has any rights to the character. She is wholly unconnected to Spiderman.
|
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
|
|
|
|
|