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So pretty much fell in love this the Creations of Bile from the moment they got spoiled, & have been working on a list for them ever sense. So far I have had only limited success with the list I will be posting below, & as such I am turning to you the fine member of Dakka Dakka to help me improve upon it.

Daemon Prince with Wings [200pts] Mark of Slaanesh Delightful Agonies, Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Prime Test Subject - Supreme Creation, Wings


Fabius Bile [95pts] Surgeon Acolyte, Warlord

Sorcerer [115pt] Helm of All-Seeing, Jump pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime

Chaos Space Marines [85pts] Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
Aspiring Champion w/ Power axe
4x Marine w/ chainsword

Chaos Space Marines [85pts] Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
Aspiring Champion w/ Power axe
4x Marine w/ chainsword

Chaos Space Marines [81pts] Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion w/ Chainaxe
. 4x Marine w/ chainsword

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [175pts] 2x Butcher cannon, Mark of Slaanesh

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [175pts] 2x Butcher cannon, Mark of Slaanesh

10x Possessed [200pts] Mark of Slaanesh


10x Possessed [200pts] Mark of Slaanesh


10x Terminators [360pts] Mark of Slaanesh
Terminator Champion w/ Chainfist, Combi-bolter
2x Terminator w/ Chainfist, Combi-plasma
7x Terminator w/ Chainaxe, Combi-plasma

3x Bikers [114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Biker Champion w/ Combi-bolter, Combi-melta
2x Biker w/ Meltagun

3x Bikers [114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Biker Champion w/ Combi-bolter, Combi-melta
2x Biker w/ Meltagun

Over all all the parts individually have worked alright so far, but I find I run out of dudes pretty quick & struggle to hold objectives. As such an idea I had was to drop either one or both units of Possessed, & adding either 2 10 man units of Chaos Marines, & upgrading one of the existing 5 mans into a ten man, or adding couple squads of Khorne Berserkers instead, then move some points around to upgrade just one squad of Chaos Marines to 10. What do you folks think?
   
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I don't have any experience with fabulous armies but I do have a few comments..

Soup would be stronger but I will comment from the perspective of staying pure.

DP I don't rate in this edition. Too pricey not enough value Considering the changes to 9th. Consider a cheaper chaos lord instead to escort and reroll the plasmas.

Sorcerer I would suggest delightful agonies to further protect the terminators. Warp time will be most useful on the DP due to range. If taking Tsons then this changes a bit due to +6".

The csm I would suggest going minimal. The axes benefit are minimal i.e. not worth it over a chainaxe and I'd suggest losing the icons. So that's all chainswords with paired chainswords on the champ and done. 17 attacks at s5 is very respectable for a cheap troop and saves you 41 pts. Argument for swapping a unit into one unit of 10 cultists for scoring and actions.

Contemptors I used to run butchers but now I'd recommend dccw/ep blaster plus twin hvy bolter. Or dual hvy bolter. Only marginally worse against mech.

Possessed aren't optimal in this army. I wouldn't spam them except maaaybe in word bearers. I would suggest losing one unit personally.

Terminators look good although you could get by easily with 9 and only 1 chainfist.

Bikers I don't use but they seem ok with speed and anti tank so no real issues there.

With pts saved you could consider a dedicated firebase unit like las havocs. i.e. another target for cacophony.

That's it for now..

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/10/24 05:31:29


 
   
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crakspider wrote:
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So pretty much fell in love this the Creations of Bile from the moment they got spoiled, & have been working on a list for them ever sense. So far I have had only limited success with the list I will be posting below, & as such I am turning to you the fine member of Dakka Dakka to help me improve upon it.

Daemon Prince with Wings [200pts] Mark of Slaanesh Delightful Agonies, Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Prime Test Subject - Supreme Creation, Wings


Fabius Bile [95pts] Surgeon Acolyte, Warlord

Sorcerer [115pt] Helm of All-Seeing, Jump pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime

Chaos Space Marines [85pts] Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
Aspiring Champion w/ Power axe
4x Marine w/ chainsword

Chaos Space Marines [85pts] Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
Aspiring Champion w/ Power axe
4x Marine w/ chainsword

Chaos Space Marines [81pts] Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion w/ Chainaxe
. 4x Marine w/ chainsword

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [175pts] 2x Butcher cannon, Mark of Slaanesh

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [175pts] 2x Butcher cannon, Mark of Slaanesh

10x Possessed [200pts] Mark of Slaanesh


10x Possessed [200pts] Mark of Slaanesh


10x Terminators [360pts] Mark of Slaanesh
Terminator Champion w/ Chainfist, Combi-bolter
2x Terminator w/ Chainfist, Combi-plasma
7x Terminator w/ Chainaxe, Combi-plasma

3x Bikers [114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Biker Champion w/ Combi-bolter, Combi-melta
2x Biker w/ Meltagun

3x Bikers [114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Biker Champion w/ Combi-bolter, Combi-melta
2x Biker w/ Meltagun

Over all all the parts individually have worked alright so far, but I find I run out of dudes pretty quick & struggle to hold objectives. As such an idea I had was to drop either one or both units of Possessed, & adding either 2 10 man units of Chaos Marines, & upgrading one of the existing 5 mans into a ten man, or adding couple squads of Khorne Berserkers instead, then move some points around to upgrade just one squad of Chaos Marines to 10. What do you folks think?


The DP just seems like a bit much and he's going to get focused down way too quickly if he's able to outpace your main force. I'd suggest taking a Terminator Lord and dropping him in along with your terminators. Give him a Combi-plasma/flamer and your favorite flavor of melee weapon. This guy points you towards chain-fist, because you'll still want the Intoxicating Elixir to keep his killing power up.

Hell, put your Sorcerer in Terminator armor as well and drop him right in with the Lords group. So he can keep them buffed after Endless Cacophony shells out all their damage. You can wipe two full squads off the table with the Lord and his squad alone. This is even before Bile throws any buffs on them.
   
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dominuschao wrote:
I don't have any experience with fabulous armies but I do have a few comments..

Soup would be stronger but I will comment from the perspective of staying pure.

DP I don't rate in this edition. Too pricey not enough value Considering the changes to 9th. Consider a cheaper chaos lord instead to escort and reroll the plasmas.

Sorcerer I would suggest delightful agonies to further protect the terminators. Warp time will be most useful on the DP due to range. If taking Tsons then this changes a bit due to +6".
The csm I would suggest going minimal. The axes benefit are minimal i.e. not worth it over a chainaxe and I'd suggest losing the icons. So that's all chainswords with paired chainswords on the champ and done. 17 attacks at s5 is very respectable for a cheap troop and saves you 41 pts. Argument for swapping a unit into one unit of 10 cultists for scoring and actions.

Contemptors I used to run butchers but now I'd recommend dccw/ep blaster plus twin hvy bolter. Or dual hvy bolter. Only marginally worse against mech.

Possessed aren't optimal in this army. I wouldn't spam them except maaaybe in word bearers. I would suggest losing one unit personally.

Terminators look good although you could get by easily with 9 and only 1 chainfist.

Bikers I don't use but they seem ok with speed and anti tank so no real issues there.

With pts saved you could consider a dedicated firebase unit like las havocs. i.e. another target for cacophony.

That's it for now..


So i made some changes to my list based on what you said (i was not aware you coule give aspiring champs 2 swords), & even got to test the list today (i won). So thank you your suggestion. Here is the new list.

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [99 PL, 10CP, 1,996pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Legion: Creations of Bile

+ Stratagems +

Gifts of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [10 PL, -1CP, 200pts]: Delightful Agonies, Malefic talon, Prime Test Subject, Supreme Creation, Wings
. Slaanesh

Fabius Bile [5 PL, 95pts]: Surgeon Acolyte, Warlord

Sorcerer [6 PL, 115pts]: Bolt pistol, Force stave, Helm of All-Seeing, Jump pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: 2x Chainsword
. 4x Marine w/ chainsword: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: 2x Chainsword
. 4x Marine w/ chainsword: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

Chaos Space Marines [8 PL, 160pts]: Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Power fist
. 9x Marine w/ chainsword: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Chainsword, 9x Frag & Krak grenades

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 70pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: 2x Chainsword
. 4x Marine w/ boltgun: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

+ Elites +

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 175pts]: 2x Ectoplasma blaster, Hellforged chainclaw, Hellforged deathclaw, Mark of Slaanesh

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 175pts]: 2x Ectoplasma blaster, Hellforged chainclaw, Hellforged deathclaw, Mark of Slaanesh

Possessed [10 PL, 200pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 10x Possessed: 10x Horrifying Mutations

Terminators [16 PL, 360pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-plasma
. Terminator Champion: Combi-bolter, Power fist

+ Fast Attack +

Bikers [5 PL, 114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Combi-melta

Bikers [5 PL, 114pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Meltagun
. Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Combi-melta

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter, No Chaos Mark

++ Total: [99 PL, 10CP, 1,996pts]

I know you & the other person said the Prince isnt amazing, but so far every game i have run him in he has clapped many a cheek, & i put agonizes as his spell instead of warp time because he is so fast, & the board is so small that by turn 2 he is on the opponent's table edge. So i would rather up his survivability instead
   
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Congrats on the win. Fair enough on the prince if he's working for you keep going with it.

The dreads I suggest same cc weapon to save pts. If deathclaws that is 20 pts saved each. I use the double cccw double ep blasters it's solid. The hvy bolter is the evolution for me now.

Good luck
   
 
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