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Regular Dakkanaut





I started Warhammer by collecting my Black Templars years ago and built it up to have enough for the Helsreach Crusade and support units. But with how the game is going, I have no inclination to play 40k and switch over fully to 30k since 2 years ago. I’m thinking of redoing my Templars and converting them to Siege of Terra Templar
Brethren but I am not sure about the background or what to watch out for.

First, was the Templar Brethren just the guards for the temple, or did they have a sizable roster of infantry/vehicles for use?

I know Mark7 was already available for the defenders by the time of the Siege. But what about the tabards/iconography/chained weapons?

   
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The Templar Brethren were fielded as shock infantry; they're not their own 'faction' yet, they're a specific elite melee unit in the Imperial Fists that represents them. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Imperial-Fists-Legion-Templar-Brethren-Upgrade-Set are the official models, the Maltese Cross is still there but the tabards and chains aren't.

In general 30k units are much less ornate than 40k units, but there are absolutely outliers, especially in newer units. Templar Brethren aren't sculpted with tabards but Deathwing Companion from the DA and Crimson Paladins from the BA are both draped in robes and crusted in logos, so it's not completely out of character for the era if you stick to something closer to the 40k look.

As to fielding a full TB army I think it'd be perfectly reasonable to run an all black-painted veteran-focused Pride of the Legion-style army with a full motor pool and ranged infantry, and calling it a "Templar Brethren" force. Either they're all literal Templar Brethren from the First Company gathered together in one force with a slightly wider variety of equipment than they normally use when detached to support other companies, or some of them are from another Company that has served alongside the Templar Brethren for a while and been granted the right to wear the black armor as a mark of respect.

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Short answer;
Spoiler:
no.


Long answer;
Spoiler:
The Templar Brethren are not the same as the Black Templars. They were the elite of the Imperial Fists Legion but weren't religious fanatics and still adhered to Legion doctrine.

The binding of weapons was something adopted by the Black Templars after they were founded, mimicking Sigismund's adoption of the tradition from the World Eaters gladiator pits.
As for armour, there was some MkVII used by the Loyalists during the Siege of Terra but it was sparing and most still wore earlier patterns of wargear.
You could maybe get away with one or two squads converted using 40k Black Templar parts but running a whole army wouldn't be smiled upon.
   
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You can use this black scheme for your entire force but they will be technically Imperial Fists.

Templars are the elite IF unit. That is all.

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