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twoseventwo wrote:
Seems to me that the Votann brief was "update these little 1980s dorks and make them cool" while the Squat one was "update these little 1980s dorks but keep them dorky".

Or vice versa depending on your opinion.
If the Votann had looked more like the Necro squats, with those bikes and not the little space lego vans, I'd have another army to be painting up.

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"Dorky" wasn't meant in a negative sense. There is nothing necessarily wrong with a dorky miniature. I don't really rate either range but the Squats are preferable. But there is a definite (and only slightly successful) attempt to grimdarkify the Space Dwarves concept with the Votann while the Squats are like, "yeah, this is kind of daft and cute, let's roll with it. Put in some adorable little robots too".

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One wonders if the Ironhead Squats are based on concept work originally done for Leagues of Votann.

We’ve seen similar recycling and repurposing in the past (Kroot pitched as an independent army, losing out to and being rolled into the Tau). And it would make sense.

   
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twoseventwo wrote:
Seems to me that the Votann brief was "update these little 1980s dorks and make them cool" while the Squat one was "update these little 1980s dorks but keep them dorky".
My take is more, "Make the 1980's dorks tacticool for current 40K and let's throw a bone to nostalgic grognards for Necromunda since it's less of an investment".


 
   
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Still nice to have both options; the Votann leave me completely cold, but the Necromunda flavour of Space Dwarf seems much more interesting and characterful (and I have no nostalgia for the old ones as such).
   
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I think the design philosophy was in the ballpark of "We want to be able to experiment with the LoV, and make them distinct from other factions, but we also know that not everyone is going to like this, so Ironhead Squats will keep those preferring the older style of Squats happy."

I think they managed a best of both worlds, with a faction tied to the Imperium being more in line with the old rogue trader stuff, while also having a complete new faction that they can play with, that also feels distinct to all the other factions.
   
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I don't know if its more old and new style and more that the 40K Team lean more into the sci-fi techno side of things whilst the Necromunda are leaning more into the rustic "space miner/cowboy/survivor" end.

So you see lots of elements being shared, but the Necro side just has that hint of more of an older style to them.

It's likely in part because everything in Necromunda has that element, whilst in 40K the factions are much more distinct and the Genestealer Cults already has the whole cowboy/miner/rustic element as their whole theme.

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Neither is great but I do vastly prefer the Munda squats. Honestly Mantic's are probably still the best.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Neither is great but I do vastly prefer the Munda squats. Honestly Mantic's are probably still the best.


I also like the Mantic ones, but their terminator armour designs look a little too like the votann ones for me to believe in coincidence. I'm more than happy to blame GW for copying, but I actually think they were sitting on designs for ages before mantic started so they ran with it.



I am also somewhat preferring the Necro designs over votann. Although I think maybe a fusion of the two would look better than either.

I prefer the votann helmets over the necro (but the Mantic ones are better than both), but I don't like the weird ablative armour additions they have on their exo suits vehicles etc.

The necro exo suits look better to me, as do the vehicular designs.


   
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More Ironhead Prospector stuff getting revealed tomorrow - fingers crossed for the laager!
   
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twoseventwo wrote:
Seems to me that the Votann brief was "update these little 1980s dorks and make them cool" while the Squat one was "update these little 1980s dorks but keep them dorky".


I think you've got that backwards

My problem with the Legation of Voltaire, besides the eminently trademarkable name, is the League of Voltron has a cool 'NASA Punk' 70s space travel look, but then they throw in these Norse bits for no reason, it's just jarring. Personally I prefer the Necro Squats but honestly the AoS Sky Dwarves are the best of them. That is is a cool concept.

 
   
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Just a shame about the game/setting it shows up in.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Use them anywhere you want.

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Oooh, just remembered we’re to expect another Squat reveal today.

Any guesses?

   
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'Copters?

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It's lucky I magnetised the first box of Squats.

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Being a lore slag I’m in for the book.

   
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Looks a good addition. Here's hoping that some of the other non-House Gangs get the same treatment with a full book. Enforcers and the various Cults could do with a refresh and re-structure to bring them in line with the more recent rules.
   
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Or just to put them all in more or less the same place.

   
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That is lovely, really glad to see a "new" faction basically fully caught up with the OG 6 in pretty short time (lack of parity between factions being one of my biggest general peeves in gaming)

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JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Looks a good addition. Here's hoping that some of the other non-House Gangs get the same treatment with a full book. Enforcers and the various Cults could do with a refresh and re-structure to bring them in line with the more recent rules.


And Venators. I want up to date Venators. :/

   
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Good news, part I: the Aranthian Succession may not have been judged a particular success and hence indifferently-written metaplot with 40k-style heroic characters may not actually be the default for Necromunda going forwards.

Good news, part II: Nomads have to be a major candidate for this treatment later on.
   
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Love Squats but do not tempt me Frodo! I must resist the impulse purchases at all costs!

Necromunda would be the ideal excuse for 40K-Skaven. Maybe a beef with the Prospectors and all that jazz.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Or just to put them all in more or less the same place.


Yeah, "2nd editions" of both Book of Ruin and Book of Judgment would seem timely but I don't know if such a release would be a priority.
   
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I love then !
   
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Ooh, the upgrades are plastic too.
   
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The upgrade sprues looks great! I want some for sure. 12 heads Im in.

   
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Also, not sure if one of the heads is tribute to Andy Chambers, or Lemmy out of The Rocking Vicars.

   
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SamusDrake wrote:
Love Squats but do not tempt me Frodo! I must resist the impulse purchases at all costs!



You need 12 squats, a psyker and a Ratling sniper.

 
   
 
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