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Okay, this topic is going to get a lot of flak with it, but I don't care because I feel at this point I am as valid as a Warhammer 40k fan who buys over expensive plastic army men like the rest of them. (No offense meant.)

But I feel I wouldn't be able to hide this forever on the forum here. A quick rundown of my username would reveal that I have a 'other' fandom. Truth be told I've been in the sonic fandom about as long as I was in the Warhammer fandom, since 2012. Anyways, I'm trying to find a ultimatum with my characters ideas in the 40k universe and as of now I've taken the liberty of making several "Warhammer 40,000 OCs"

Some of my homebrew 40k "characters" ocs include, but not limited to:

.Warboss Dakkamasta Shootaluva (Ork Warboss, Orks, Bad Moon Klan)


.Cyrus the Perfectionist (Chaos Space Marine Sorcerer of the Black Legion, worships Slaanesh)


.Brother David Andromedas (Adeptus Mechinicus, Tech Priests of Mars)


.Sister Agatha Clark (Adeptus Sororitas, Sisters of Battle.Order of the Martyr'd Lady.)


.Champion Nathan (Chaos Space Marines, World Eaters)


.Scylla (Keeper of Secrets, Slaanesh Greater Daemonette)


.Festor Nile (Chaos sorceress of Nurgle, accompanies the Death Guard).


.Monica Patterson, the Tempress. (Human Chaos sorceress of Slaanesh.Acompanies the Black Legion.)


.Lady Wandyn the Arison (Necron female lord, based off my character Wanda Bara the Necromancer, Necrons.)

Many of these are taken from my Sonic Ocs and I was wondering if I would be nailed to a cross to do this? I mean I have met a LOT of Warhammer 40k fans in the Sonic community and two of my regular match players I met years ago on a Sonic wiki. Anyways, the idea is that if I go into the lore and start naming my minis after my Sonic OCs, (which some fit a certain theme such as Wanda with being a necromancer Mobian bat, and well a Necron). Would that be accepted by my local gaming community? I am not talking about furry stuff being added in the 40 fandom, heck no. But I have grown attached to my works over the years and my characters and I want to find a mature outlet to take their original core concepts and utilize them as 'characters' in my models and homebrew fluff?

I will admit, in the past I wasn't treated very well by the Warhammer fandom. I've been mocked, harassed, attempts at doxxing, and hazed by the 40k community because of my other fandom. But I feel with GW's way they're going now times would change to be more inclusive. (Note: I am NOT talking about any form of gate keeping or me trying to alter the fandom or franchise. I like 40k how it is, relatively and I feel that it would just be my little twist on my own personnel models when I play crusade.)

This is one of the threads of all time

Generally people will not care at all about your homebrew characters. Like, often to the point of being actively bored by having to hear about them (at which point it's sort of incumbent on you to read the room and clock that you're rudely imposing your own fanfic hobby on other people).

If you're finding yourself encountering a lot of pushback I'm going to guess most of it is coming from exactly what you're doing in this thread: loudly announcing that your homebrew characters are based on an unusual inspiration, and implicitly posing a challenge to people to contest you, instead of simply presenting them as-is to stand on their own merits in their modified 40K forms.

I think most people who see a Necron conversion with pink armour and bat ears are going to say "cool, nice conversion" but most people made to suffer a backstory and trivia from another media franchise they have no shared interest in are going to be squirming and trying to gtfo of your vicinity.

Don't ask, don't tell about anything weirder than blood rituals to make your dice rolls better. The feeling I am having right now would probably be similar to what you'd feel if I told you that my fully converted Nighthaunt army included 61 genuine mouse skulls.

 Altruizine wrote:
Generally people will not care at all about your homebrew characters. Like, often to the point of being actively bored by having to hear about them (at which point it's sort of incumbent on you to read the room and clock that you're rudely imposing your own fanfic hobby on other people).

If you're finding yourself encountering a lot of pushback I'm going to guess most of it is coming from exactly what you're doing in this thread: loudly announcing that your homebrew characters are based on an unusual inspiration, and implicitly posing a challenge to people to contest you, instead of simply presenting them as-is to stand on their own merits in their modified 40K forms.

I think most people who see a Necron conversion with pink armour and bat ears are going to say "cool, nice conversion" but most people made to suffer a backstory and trivia from another media franchise they have no shared interest in are going to be squirming and trying to gtfo of your vicinity.

Oh no, that didn't happen thus far. The last event in Cantan that I played I was just my Orks and I used Dakkamasta (which is my Mega Armored warboss) and things went fine tbh. I know enough about the 40k lore to just 'nerd out' (note: No offense meant, just saying I can speak some of that good 40k fluff) during our gaming events. I just feel it would be a good outlet for me to put some fluff around a HQ here or there, or if a model is unique I make up a funny story.

I um, haven't done that? I mean tbh nobody really has asked in my gaming event about Dakkmasta. As I've stated before, the last event I was at went smoothly, but that was mostly because I as too concerned with helping my team of six people holding our front of the battlefield.

No no no, you see the idea is that my necron overlord is a female version of Nemesor Zahndrekh. Basically 'she' thinks she is your loving grandmother, when in actuality she is actually a necron overlord (lady). It's meant to be funny as my character Wanda is sort of like your loving cooky older grandmother, who is also a necromancer. (I sort of thought of the character after playing Mordheim and Witcher 3). Anyways, the idea is that my Necron HQ is a funny grandmother like character who doesn't realize she is well, doing what a Necron overlord normally does to any mere mortals. It's meant to be funny.

With all cross fandom stuff it depends a lot on the people.

40k players insert themselves into other fandoms all the time. Most are fun, cool and totes welcome.
Others you wonder if they just got kicked out of there 40k group.

Most cool players will be happy to listen within reason.
Sometimes it’s just about learning to express yourself for the company you are with.
Which can be hard, and finding the right people that will welcome you can be very hard.

 vict0988 wrote:
Don't ask, don't tell about anything weirder than blood rituals to make your dice rolls better. The feeling I am having right now would probably be similar to what you'd feel if I told you that my fully converted Nighthaunt army included 61 genuine mouse skulls.

I actually think that's a cool idea?


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Apple fox wrote:
With all cross fandom stuff it depends a lot on the people.

40k players insert themselves into other fandoms all the time. Most are fun, cool and totes welcome.
Others you wonder if they just got kicked out of there 40k group.

Most cool players will be happy to listen within reason.
Sometimes it’s just about learning to express yourself for the company you are with.
Which can be hard, and finding the right people that will welcome you can be very hard.

True, my group started to do this weird swaying hold hands dance while I was playing, I presumed they're closer friends and I just sort of wandered off in the store until they stopped before coming back to take my turn. (Note this was a 6 vs 6 event so I had time.)

I mean generally I'm trying to play, but I will call my characters the names when it's time to move them. Helps me get into the roleplaying aspect of Warhammer better. To be honest, I was actually sort of nervous at the event because well, Orks losing the first turn to an Imperial Knight is a big 'oh crap!'. Thus I had to go in with an entire squad of Boyz wiped out at the start.

Jaredthefox92 wrote:

Oh no, that didn't happen thus far. The last event in Cantan that I played I was just my Orks and I used Dakkamasta (which is my Mega Armored warboss) and things went fine tbh. I know enough about the 40k lore to just 'nerd out' (note: No offense meant, just saying I can speak some of that good 40k fluff) during our gaming events. I just feel it would be a good outlet for me to put some fluff around a HQ here or there, or if a model is unique I make up a funny story.

I um, haven't done that? I mean tbh nobody really has asked in my gaming event about Dakkmasta. As I've stated before, the last event I was at went smoothly, but that was mostly because I as too concerned with helping my team of six people holding our front of the battlefield.

I foresee more smooth sailing for you ahead, then. All you need to do is remain self-aware and be conscientious about not inflicting your homebrew fluff on disinterested captive audiences (eg. someone you're randomly matched up with at an event).

Jaredthefox92 wrote:
No no no, you see the idea is that my necron overlord is a female version of Nemesor Zahndrekh. Basically 'she' thinks she is your loving grandmother, when in actuality she is actually a necron overlord (lady). It's meant to be funny as my character Wanda is sort of like your loving cooky older grandmother, who is also a necromancer. (I sort of thought of the character after playing Mordheim and Witcher 3). Anyways, the idea is that my Necron HQ is a funny grandmother like character who doesn't realize she is well, doing what a Necron overlord normally does to any mere mortals. It's meant to be funny.

Although this makes me wonder if you're actually absorbing the lesson.

I don't care about your characters. I didn't ask for more info about them. I read one and a half sentences of that paragraph before my eyes glazed over and I thought I'd died and been delivered to hell. If you want to gush about your creations, make a thread where that's openly stated as your purpose and allow people to participate voluntarily (or wait for someone in here to make a direct inquiry).

 Altruizine wrote:

Jaredthefox92 wrote:

Oh no, that didn't happen thus far. The last event in Cantan that I played I was just my Orks and I used Dakkamasta (which is my Mega Armored warboss) and things went fine tbh. I know enough about the 40k lore to just 'nerd out' (note: No offense meant, just saying I can speak some of that good 40k fluff) during our gaming events. I just feel it would be a good outlet for me to put some fluff around a HQ here or there, or if a model is unique I make up a funny story.

I um, haven't done that? I mean tbh nobody really has asked in my gaming event about Dakkmasta. As I've stated before, the last event I was at went smoothly, but that was mostly because I as too concerned with helping my team of six people holding our front of the battlefield.

I foresee more smooth sailing for you ahead, then. All you need to do is remain self-aware and be conscientious about not inflicting your homebrew fluff on disinterested captive audiences (eg. someone you're randomly matched up with at an event).

Jaredthefox92 wrote:
No no no, you see the idea is that my necron overlord is a female version of Nemesor Zahndrekh. Basically 'she' thinks she is your loving grandmother, when in actuality she is actually a necron overlord (lady). It's meant to be funny as my character Wanda is sort of like your loving cooky older grandmother, who is also a necromancer. (I sort of thought of the character after playing Mordheim and Witcher 3). Anyways, the idea is that my Necron HQ is a funny grandmother like character who doesn't realize she is well, doing what a Necron overlord normally does to any mere mortals. It's meant to be funny.

Although this makes me wonder if you're actually absorbing the lesson.

I don't care about your characters. I didn't ask for more info about them. I read one and a half sentences of that paragraph before my eyes glazed over and I thought I'd died and been delivered to hell. If you want to gush about your creations, make a thread where that's openly stated as your purpose and allow people to participate voluntarily (or wait for someone in here to make a direct inquiry).

I mean is there a lesion? Who are you to proclaim that you're a teacher in any capacity? I'm sorry, but you're coming off a tad..neckbeardy atm.

This is an open discussion thread an I merely was posting about my personal experiences in the fandom with toxicity, (and I am sort of smelling a bit of that now atm tbh.)

You don't have to read this thread or reply you know. No need to be that way.

Jaredthefox92 wrote:

I mean is there a lesion? Who are you to proclaim that you're a teacher in any capacity?

A person with greater emotional intelligence than you, I think.

It's up to you how you conduct yourself. If you believe that uninvited lore dumps about your homebrew characters will serve you well in interactions with new people, feel free to try that. But you've been given an explanation of how that can invite scorn and dismissal.

 Altruizine wrote:

Jaredthefox92 wrote:

I mean is there a lesion? Who are you to proclaim that you're a teacher in any capacity?

A person with greater emotional intelligence than you, I think.

It's up to you how you conduct yourself. If you believe that uninvited lore dumps about your homebrew characters will serve you well in interactions with new people, feel free to try that. But you've been given an explanation of how that can invite scorn and dismissal.

That's the Dunning Kruger effect in motion right there.

I've been doing thus fine with my local gaming group, tyvm. It's just online you get people well, such as yourself.

I assume most people will do what 150+ other people have done, pay attention for a fraction of a second and then roll their eyes and move on.
Literally, no one cares.
I've never understood people's need to make elaborate tales about their armies and characters. That's DnD stuff, not table top wargaming stuff. A name for a tank? Yeah that fine, it might even catch on for quick reference. But does anyone need to know the life story of Plasma gunner Johnson who was killed turn one in the first volley of enemy fire? No.
Cross genre/fandom is mostly in your head, where it belongs.
I've been playing since 1997. I don't even care about the lore from the actual game let alone someone's head cannon and I'm sure I'm in the majority here.
It's your hobby to play as you see fit, but telling every last opponent about your armies backstory will eventually cause people to avoid you. It's doesn't even have to be a "furry lite" theme. Most people want to roll dice and watch things die, not talk about your favorite franchise that's completely unrelatable to the hobby you would both be currently active in.

I wouldn’t worry about it. 40K uses puns quite a lot (Ghaz being originally named after vicious old harridan Thatcher).

The Ciaphas Cain novels are packed with them. Arbitrator Foreboding (Judge Dredd) an Ice World named Brass Monkies, even one and done mention character Wynethea Phue (Winnie The Pooh)

If it makes you grin, go for it. If it makes others groan, go for it even more.

Need even more justification? Many Special Characters came from sample armies in Rogue Trader, or even Battle Reports. Captain Tycho’s hideous scarring was the result of a Weirdboy power vomit in Rogue Trader. Calgar nearly killed by Tyranids? Blown up by a Spore Mine having spent most of the game cowering behind a Rhino (maybe a Razorback). Ghaz, Mad Dok Grotsnik, Kaptin Badrukk, Nazdreg, all from the Rogue Trader Orky books sample armies.

I don't like when people mix settings as if they've just discovered postmodernism. If I set up a game of 40k I want an experience of brutal warfare in the dystopian, grimdark future, not a popcultural vomit of mismatched tropes like in some modern video games (you know the kind with pets and costumes and no visual or thematic consistency whatsoever).

For example, if you want Vader and SW stormtroopers, my advice is to play a SW game, not to convert and paint their models to use them in WH40K or Warmachine

I mean, OP, from your examples - all of these could be genuine 40K names and I wouldn't recognize them as anything else as I don't know what "Sonic OC" is.
Especially in Kill Team games where you name every single model it's not unusual to go for some puns. It also makes for fun games. Of course one of my Plague Marines was named Covidius when we had a game two years ago.
If you start a greater campaign with factions fighting over a sector it could be better to restrain yourself to not destroy the immersion for the players.
On the other hand, if Ork Kaptin Pick'ard fought against Archon Dark Vader and Librarian Gand Olf... I'd chuckle.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
I don't know what "Sonic OC" is.

Matt Ward Grey Knight fluff tier cringe.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
I mean, OP, from your examples - all of these could be genuine 40K names and I wouldn't recognize them as anything else as I don't know what "Sonic OC" is.

Yeah. I'm kind of expecting Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik and... I'm done.

Admittedly for me Sonic ended with Sonic 3, which is presumably today a bit like saying "did they make another Mario game after Mario 64?"

The only people to whom it will really matter is your local group.. enjoy... but don't ram it down people's throats?

Cyel wrote:
I don't like when people mix settings as if they've just discovered postmodernism. If I set up a game of 40k I want an experience of brutal warfare in the dystopian, grimdark future, not a popcultural vomit of mismatched tropes like in some modern video games (you know the kind with pets and costumes and no visual or thematic consistency whatsoever).

For example, if you want Vader and SW stormtroopers, my advice is to play a SW game, not to convert and paint their models to use them in WH40K or Warmachine

Not sure 40K is for you then ??

What do you mean?

Obscure wordplay in character names is a different thing than the opponent putting an army of SW stormtroopers or cartoon Minions or Marvel superheroes in front of your Sisters of Battle or Eldar.

If I set up an RPG session and say I have prepared a XIX century gothic horror scenario I don't want my players to turn up with characters named Poopy McPoopface, modern pizza delivery boys who always make fun of everything.

I consider it a breach of a social contract (we agreed to play gothic horror). Is it the end of the world? Obviously not. But sure as hell it's annoying.

Jaredthefox92 wrote:

 Altruizine wrote:

Jaredthefox92 wrote:

I mean is there a lesion? Who are you to proclaim that you're a teacher in any capacity?

A person with greater emotional intelligence than you, I think.

It's up to you how you conduct yourself. If you believe that uninvited lore dumps about your homebrew characters will serve you well in interactions with new people, feel free to try that. But you've been given an explanation of how that can invite scorn and dismissal.

That's the Dunning Kruger effect in motion right there.

I've been doing thus fine with my local gaming group, tyvm. It's just online you get people well, such as yourself.

Thats because they're being polite because its a social situation. Online, we don't have that obligation so we can be frank. I'm with Altruizine on this one. I got to "existing character but female" and in my head went OH MY GOD I DON'T CARE. If you mentioned nothing about Sonic being involved people still wouldn't care but they also wouldn't mock you. Just keep you OC fluff to the appropriate places and don't try to interject it into every conversation.

It also doesn't help to go on the defensive and use terms like "Dunning Kruger effect" when you invite opinions then don't like the answer.

Solid effort, 5/7

And we're done here.