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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/12 13:48:56
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi guys. So I used to paint Warhammer minis back around the Warhammer Fantasy 7th-8th edition era. Miniatures were basically a torso that you could put a head and arms on, connecting flat surface to flat surface. I recently got back into the hobby and I assembled half of my Skaven. I think the warband is called Skittershank's Clawpack? They come in the battle box containing the dark elf AoS fellows.
Anyway, I'm running into huge problems. Pieces aren't connecting right, some pretty gnarly gaps. Is this specific to this set? I don't have much interest in fixing models too much. Once in a while, sure, but filling in major gaps on every single mini? I'm not trying to complain or trash the hobby if that's something you enjoy, I guess I'm just asking if I'm doing something wrong or if this is specific to this warband or Underworlds in general?
Thanks for reading and any advice would be appreciated.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/10/12 13:52:09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/12 13:57:24
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Warband models should go together easily so big gaps means something is going wrong which is likely one of two things
1) With peg and slot I find that you want to cut most of the peg off if you are using glue. Otherwise if you apply glue the glue will gum up the join and prevent you pushing it all the way in. So clip most of the peg off; apply glue as normal and then stick together
2) Make double sure you are using the right parts and assembling them in the order shown in the assembly guide. One or two GW models now require assembly in a certain order to go together right.
I'm guessing that issue 1 is the most likely culprit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0053/10/12 14:00:18
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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[DCM]
Procrastinator extraordinaire
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Having built this set and other UW warbands, the finer minis of the range tend to be very awkward to assemble and frequently break on the sprue. I didn't have many problems with gaps but did find that trimming down the pins so they sit in the holes cleanly as well as applying a bit of glue to lube the socket will help eliminate the worst gaps. I recommend Tamiya extra thin cement as a means of fitting tiny parts as you get an instant bond without mess.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/10/12 14:00:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/12 15:35:51
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks guys. I'll look into the extra thin cement. I also will trim down the plug in pieces because that sounds right to me. I'll put them partially in and make sure it all looks right, but when I glue them in I'm getting a gap. Thanks for the tips you guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/12 15:41:12
Subject: Re:Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Peg is for playing ASAP.
Glue is forever. Always trim the peg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/12 16:58:41
Subject: Re:Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Lieutenant General
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Kanluwen wrote:Peg is for playing ASAP.
Glue is forever. Always trim the peg.
The few push fit models I assembled I never had a problem with the peg. The old mouldline remover was the perfect size where you'd slip it in the hole, give it two or three full rotations and the peg would fit near perfectly. Nowadays, always trim the peg...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/13 00:03:44
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Keep the pegs, but trim the ends at an angle, so it's a long spike instead of a flat post. It still keeps the pieces in alignment but it lets the air & glue out as you push the parts together. Sometimes the pegs are so tight that air/glue gets trapped inside which pushes parts apart and leads to gaps, you're literally fighting against a pneumatic pump. There's also less contact area so they push together (and come apart) a bit easier
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/13 13:41:51
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Really appreciate all the tips guys. I'm going to tackle it again soon, this time trimming the pegs.
Pretty discouraging to return and botch a few minis right out the gate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/14 00:20:38
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Enkmar wrote:Pretty discouraging to return and botch a few minis right out the gate.
Yeah I think it's the push-fit kits for sure. I think they've been a real misstep by GW. I guess the aim is to cater to the board game crowd? Because for people into the painting hobby they are really sub-par. It's a shame because GW's 'normal' plastic kits have been really excellent recently when it comes to gap/ seams. A million miles better than how kits were 10-15 years ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/14 03:31:18
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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shmvo wrote:Enkmar wrote:Pretty discouraging to return and botch a few minis right out the gate.
Yeah I think it's the push-fit kits for sure. I think they've been a real misstep by GW. I guess the aim is to cater to the board game crowd? Because for people into the painting hobby they are really sub-par.
It's a shame because GW's 'normal' plastic kits have been really excellent recently when it comes to gap/ seams. A million miles better than how kits were 10-15 years ago.
It seems to be a case-by-case thing. The tyranid models from the Leviathan box were fantastic in terms of push-fit being friendly for painting. Most tyranids in that box have limbs on separate pegs, making it very easy to take apart the and paint as sub-assemblies, then just reinsert the pegs and the model is complete.
Personally, the simplest way to build the push-fit models is put the bits together without any glue, and then run a bit of extra thin plastic cement over the joint area to "seal" it. Tends to work well in most cases. Other advise from this threat to trim the peg at an angle is a great option if you would like to glue the inside of the peg joint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/14 16:29:05
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Overread wrote:
2) Make double sure you are using the right parts and assembling them in the order shown in the assembly guide. One or two GW models now require assembly in a certain order to go together right.
I'm guessing that issue 1 is the most likely culprit
While unlikely culprit here good advise in general with new models. I have tried to cut time couple time skipping ahead while waiting glue to set only to realize this got me into big headache
Better not take chances and just follow order. Especially for unique models you aren"t building multiples.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/10/14 16:32:30
Subject: Tricky Assembly of Underworld models?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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tneva82 wrote: Overread wrote:
2) Make double sure you are using the right parts and assembling them in the order shown in the assembly guide. One or two GW models now require assembly in a certain order to go together right.
I'm guessing that issue 1 is the most likely culprit
While unlikely culprit here good advise in general with new models. I have tried to cut time couple time skipping ahead while waiting glue to set only to realize this got me into big headache
Better not take chances and just follow order. Especially for unique models you aren"t building multiples.
Yeah esp these days with GW's Dynamic models there's a good few models out there that will only go together easily if you follow the instructions. If you jump ahead or skip steps you can end up in a total mess.
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