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Dang. That's a lot of AP3 and better weapons. Can't wait for the Shokk Attack Gun!

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Looks like the rumors were all pretty much spot on.

The Green Tide appears to be rapidly approaching!


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Sweet. Nice covert op.

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So I went back to the rumor thread to double-check where the new weapons fit into the scheme of things and here's the recap for anyone not up on that thread (and the corresponding summary page numbers seem to verify these claims between the page #s the units are on vs. the page # of the weapons).

  • Boomgun = Looted Wagon
  • Dakkaguns = Bikes
  • Deffguns = Lootas
  • Grotzooka = Killa Kans
  • KillKannon = Battlewagon
  • Snazzguns = Flash Gitz

 

The things that seem odd to me are that the Boomgun has a longer range and a higher strength than the KillKannon yet its found on the looted wagon and not (?) on the Battlewagon. You'd think that the Battlewagon would have access to the army's biggest gun (if you give up some transport capacity).

Also, I wonder if the Grotzooka is only available for Killa Kans or whether Dreadnoughts can take them too?

 


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Take a look at the WS and BS of the Deff Dread versus the Killa Kans. That seems a little strange to me as well or should we chalk it up as a typo?

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I'm guessing a kan is piloted by a grot now.

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Yep, kan is a grot with bs3 and a deffdread is an ork with bs 2.

Some interesting things there.

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Those are beautiful words right there. "Written by Phil Kelly"

Heh..."Summary and Borin' bits" It seems the orks havent lost their sense of humor. Nice.

Who is Old Zogwart?

Damn, shootas are nasty, as are many of the other weapons. Everyone is going to take shoota orks now.
 Grotzooka sounds as fun as a shokk attak gun.
Nah, the shok attack gun is far more fun.

In celebration of BS3 Grot piloted Kans, its time to bring out this time honored classic...

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Some more Orks is all waaaght I need now.

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so, the kustom mega-blasta is assault now. would be a great choice if the shokk attack gun woulnd't be back . I would give it to a Big Mek on bike, but I think a burna on a bike would look much cooler.

I was kinda hoping the Big Mek would get a higher BS, but hey, he's still green....


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Alas, photobucket is blocked at work


Dunno how to take Orks loading up on clearly anti-MEQ weaponry (though that's an easy way to be "competitive"), but I dig all the new and different guns. My chaos boys are, of course, green (though still spiky & eevil) with envy

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Can't see it either...someone else, rehost, and make it snappy. I don't have all day.

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Ooooh, yeah, people are going to go shootas in a big way. Shootas and kans for dakka, and klaws for da krumpin'.


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I am getting so very curious about the grotzooka. H2? Does it shoot 2 grotz?

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
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Looks like a picked the right time to get my new plates!

Green and everything.

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I think I am still going to field lots of slugga boyz with a weirdboy (depending on the points of the weirdboy). I still want that extra, much more skilled CC attack over the shooting attack. It's really going to be interesting though, because now it is a hard choice.

And now Guardians with Shuriken cats are even worse. Catapults used to be one of the best basic weapons in the game. Now an ork shoota is better than it....

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
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All this info and the new models is enough to make an old warboss come out of retirement and make a first forum post.

To bad when I retired the boyz went to work for another boss and now I'z gonna 'afta rebuild da waaagh...


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Well, with all the new kool models, it's a good time to restart!

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
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Posted By Iorek on 10/03/2007 10:00 AM
How's this?
To be honest, the formating is too small.  Barely readable without plastering ones faces to ones plasma.
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That's the same pic over on wherever? You the man Iorek!

And as to reading it, looks like me young eyes are still good for something

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BLAST! if only it had the points summary.  Well its good to see, about the only thing that suprised me was the grotzooka.  Quick now do a shot of the special rules page, especially the one that shows trukk boys are no longer entangled automatically.  I want to use them as a nasty suprise for tonights game vs my friend.
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Waaaaaagh!


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Good times! I was really hoping the Rumors where true. This almost confirms it. I say almost because we can't see all the special rules and points costs. I just noticed the Zapp gun didn't seem to have the melta rule, maybe it's part of it's special rules.

@Yakface, I think it makes sense that the Killcannon on the battle wagon is not as good as the gun on the looted wagon and that's because Ork weapons tend to be less well designed. Ork make guns for load explosions and sending people flying, it's all for a good laugh. Looted vehciles will have Imperial equipment that is then orkified, but still has Imperial consturction and design at it's core. So it makes sense to me. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Yeah, I just threw it up here on Dakka as a message attachment.  I'll see if I can't get it up on my webserver real quick.

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Some artifacting there, but that's as good as I can make it.

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