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Post by: Raging-Heroes
As recommended by Yakface, I am launching this new thread about Raging Heroes' Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter.
May 5 edit: The TGG Kickstarter has now launched!
And thanks to you all, it's already doing unbelievably well! THANK YOU!!!
Every announced heroine and unit unlocked!
All trikes and all Were-She-Wolves unlocked!
Now going for new, unseen units, heroines and upgrades!
But what is it?
The Toughest Girl of the Galaxy Kickstarter will give you access to three full all-female armies for your SciFi games, with over 150 new sculpts.
Images?
We've already shown 13 images so far. They give a very accurate overview of the three armies we've been working on.
And the amazing feedback we got pushed us to develop a whole bunch of new characters and make things even more kick-ass!
Here are a 6 of them:
Pic of all pledge levels (in spoilers because of size):
Added 1st July:
Added 3rd July:
Added 5th July:
Pic of all current freebies (Lieutenant level upward):
Pic of all heroines (now all unlocked, in spoilers because of size):
Road Map for the end of the TGG Kickstarter!
Road Map for the end of the TGG Kickstarter!
$530,000 Freebie: Charlie- Unlocked
$535,000 Free upgrade - Unlocked
$540,000 Freebie: Nertha, Freedom Fighter Iron Empire - Unlocked
$545,000 Free upgrade - Unlocked )
$555,000 Uber-stretchgoal: Jet Girls - unit of 5 - Unlocked
$560,000 Free upgrade - Unlocked
$565,000 Freebie: Lucky Lucy, Jailbird Spotter - Unlocked
$570,000 Free upgrade - Unlocked
$580,000 Uber-stretchgoal: Kurganovas' Trike - Unlocked
$585,000 Free upgrade - Unlocked
$590,000 Freebie: Cyberzombie W101- Unlocked
$595,000 Free upgrade - Unlocked
$605,000 Uber-stretchgoal:Jailbird's Trike - Unlocked
$610,000 Free Upgrade - Unlocked
$615,000 Freebie: KST Nurse Karoline- Unlocked
$620,000 Free Upgrade - Unlocked
$630,000 Uber-stretchgoal: Iron Empire Trike - Unlocked
$635,000 Free Upgrade - Unlocked
$640,000 Freebie: 1 new Lulu+ Uber-Stretchgoal: 1st Kurganova Female Werewolf: Zagrath - Unlocked
$645,000 Free Upgrade - Unlocked
$648,000 Uber-Stretch Goal: 2nd Kurganova Female Werewolf: Sheera - Unlocked
$656,000 Uber-Stretch Goal: 3rd Kurganova Female Werewolf: Vankaree - Unlocked
$665,000 Uber-Stretch Goal: 4th Kurganova Female Werewolf: Reyha - Unlocked
$670,000 Free Upgrade
$675,000 Freebie: Natasha, Com Operator
$680,000 Free Upgrade
$700,000 Unit of Cyberzombies
$705,000 Free Upgrade
$710,000 Freebie: Freya Pain-Sec, Iron Empire Officer
$715,000 Free Upgrade
$720,000 Freebie: Zab the Hacker, Jailbird Cyber Pirate
12,000$ funded after 30 seconds.
260,000$ stretch goal:
Yes, three unlocks at 430k:
Former Lieutenant Kotzen, now renamed:
From now on, daily unlocks without any stretch goal. First one:
Unlocked:
Here some renders:
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yakface edit: For reference of past Raging Heroes discussion, here's a link to the (temporarily closed during the KS) news & rumors thread on Dakka in case you want to read up on the past:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/378244.page
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Post by: Yonan
Shut up and take my money!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Sounds great so far, will we have a preview of the pledges before they go live?
Also have you considered for the Iron empire to produce alternative scenic elements that do not have the sculls and bones?
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Post by: RiTides
Good things come to those who wait
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Post by: Joyboozer
Speaking of waiting, what were you looking at as the delivery date for the products?
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Post by: ph34r
So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art? Are people really throwing money at a product that they can't see, a product which has its value entirely based on aesthetics?
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Post by: Azazelx
You mean, like almost every Kickstarter in the last year or more?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
... and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait...
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Post by: Tannhauser42
ph34r wrote:So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art? Are people really throwing money at a product that they can't see, a product which has its value entirely based on aesthetics?
Nobody's throwing money at anything yet because the Kickstarter hasn't started yet. At that point, THEN we'll see everything that they have ready to show us beyond the concept art seen so far.
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Post by: Azazelx
Almost a shame that RH started this thread. I'd imagine that having a dedicated forum member - Wolfstark (and/or BrookM?) to keep the OP updated as the KS goes along would be better, since the RH crew will be busy as the KS starts.
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Post by: Raging-Heroes
Yonan wrote:Shut up and take my money!
Would that I could....
PsychoticStorm wrote:Sounds great so far, will we have a preview of the pledges before they go live?
I'm afraid not, because we will probably be tweaking them until the last minute...
PsychoticStorm wrote:Also have you considered for the Iron empire to produce alternative scenic elements that do not have the sculls and bones?
We considered it when we first saw a comment about it, but the majority overruled it.
Joyboozer wrote:Speaking of waiting, what were you looking at as the delivery date for the products?
We pushed out the final delivery date for the entire project quite a bit to account for unexpected events, but we will be releasing the minis in several waves, so pledgers will be able to get their hands on certain rewards way before that final date.
ph34r wrote:So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art?
Perhaps. However, we spend hours, days, sometimes weeks, to get the sculpts to look like the concepts. There will be side-by-side comparisons showing concepts and sculpts in the KS.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
I'll look forward to buying the minis if they match up to the beautiful artwork, scale readily against 28mm scifi wargames and are readily available... when they are available.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I'll look forward to buying the minis if they match up to the beautiful artwork, scale readily against 28mm scifi wargames and are readily available... when they are available. I've highlighted the really important part of the quote above.
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Post by: Azazelx
Careful! RiTides will admonish you!
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Post by: AlexHolker
- Will the heads be separate on the Iron Empire miniatures? If so, is there any chance of at least a unit or two getting helmetless heads? I love the Prussian fencer look, but not the headwear.
- Can you tell us what the "sweet spot" pledge is, and what we'd get at that price?
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Post by: GBL
Oh not another kickstarter.
I hate getting great quality, cheap and unique miniatures as presents to myself every month or so. Its terrible and I think it should stop.
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Post by: Breotan
GBL wrote:Oh not another kickstarter. I hate getting great quality, cheap and unique miniatures as presents to myself every month or so. Its terrible and I think it should stop.
You're actually getting minis? So far, except for Sedition Wars box set and the Leviathan from DreamForge, I'm still waiting on all mine.
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Post by: Azazelx
AlexHolker wrote:- Will the heads be separate on the Iron Empire miniatures? If so, is there any chance of at least a unit or two getting helmetless heads? I love the Prussian fencer look, but not the headwear.
- Can you tell us what the "sweet spot" pledge is, and what we'd get at that price?
Just give it a couple of days.
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Post by: BrookM
Azazelx wrote:Almost a shame that RH started this thread. I'd imagine that having a dedicated forum member - Wolfstark (and/or BrookM?) to keep the OP updated as the KS goes along would be better, since the RH crew will be busy as the KS starts.
To answer the question regarding the heralds you asked in the old thread, I got this: "At this point in time, we are forced to keep your name on the list as a potential future Herald. We received many applications, many more than we originally expected, and we have not been able to sign you all up because we want to be able to develop a regular relationship with each Herald and this takes time, which is a resource in short supply right now." So nope, I'm not in and chances are, nevar [sic]. I think it's because I've been a tad too critical as of late with my feedback.
And it's probably for the best that I don't run the a KS thread in the long run, I've probably come across more as a hater than someone who wants to see this succeed, which I really still want to see happen. Oh well, saves me from being bitched at.
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Post by: grefven
Do we know if it will be possible to get the concept arts (see the first post) in poster sizes? They'd look really cool hanging in the hobby room.
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Post by: Azazelx
BrookM - ditto (same email) and ditto (on being critical).
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
watching,
waiting.......
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Post by: Zweischneid
ph34r wrote:So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art? Are people really throwing money at a product that they can't see, a product which has its value entirely based on aesthetics?
Not really.
Raging Heroes have quite a few models, both fantasy and sci-fi, out there. You can even go and order some from most e-Tailers (or directly from Raging Heroes) and have a look at the work they do.
That's a hell of a lot more than can be said for many start-up Kickstarters that have been out there in the pasts year or two.
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Post by: AlexHolker
ph34r wrote:So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art? Are people really throwing money at a product that they can't see, a product which has its value entirely based on aesthetics?
They've made mention of the sculpting they've been doing in the past three months, they just haven't shown it yet. I assume that they'll finally let us see what they've been up to on Tuesday, just as they are doing for the prices. That still doesn't mean the quality will be up to scratch - these will be their first restic miniatures so they could still have a Finecast debacle on their hands - but I'd have more confidence judging Raging Heroes by their digital sculpts than Mantic by their concept sketches.
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Post by: BrookM
Agreed, materials aside, I've got faith in their ability to make the actual minis life up to the designs shown thus far.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Raging-Heroes wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:Also have you considered for the Iron empire to produce alternative scenic elements that do not have the sculls and bones?
We considered it when we first saw a comment about it, but the majority overruled it.
I guess then only I suggested it, oh well, I think I will still buy them and still think they look silly.
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Post by: Alpharius
PsychoticStorm wrote: Raging-Heroes wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:Also have you considered for the Iron empire to produce alternative scenic elements that do not have the sculls and bones?
We considered it when we first saw a comment about it, but the majority overruled it.
I guess then only I suggested it, oh well, I think I will still buy them and still think they look silly.
You're not alone!
I'd prefer fewer Skulls-n-Bones too - and if it gets too silly, I'll probably be avoiding that 'faction' as well!
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Post by: Rinkydink
Well, let's hope all the small things are taken care of, in this Kickstarter.
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Post by: Minx
ph34r wrote:So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art? Are people really throwing money at a product that they can't see, a product which has its value entirely based on aesthetics?
Judging from their past products, especially their miniatures here on my desk, I am quite confident about their ability to deliver stunning models close to the concept art. It's just a matter of time and your patience as others have mentioned as well
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
H.B.M.C. wrote: MeanGreenStompa wrote:I'll look forward to buying the minis if they match up to the beautiful artwork, scale readily against 28mm scifi wargames and are readily available... when they are available.
I've highlighted the really important part of the quote above.
I have one of the Kruganova sisters that inspired the TGG line, she fits right in with my guard army, looks great and is of extremely high quality. I fully believe the TGG armies are ready to go. That said I would also say they are ready to go as Guard and maybe you could stretch the Prussians into SoB with their jet pack unit.
I did get Herald status, I will do my best to keep you guys updated through out the KS.
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Post by: WolfStark
Nothing is more important as being critical. It's a shame that too often people who're not "shut up and take my money!" are called haters. I am not an American but I have the feeling there was or is a different dealing with critiques like Siskel & Ebert in the movie sector. But my feeling is also, that it's not even the slightest as bad in miniatures as it is in games.^^ So I am hoping no one stops with being critical positive and negative, there can't be progress without it.
@ph34r
Well, I have Raging Heroes girls and they're all looking very good, particularly the Königsmark and Kurganova Sisters and Skaarlys. I have the feeling I can even see a development from Asharah's first sculpt over Eleriel & Alaniel to the most recent releases. And Asharah back then was already very good.
I am confident, that they can keep this quality or continue improving it. That doesn't mean they don't make mistakes but a Mantic Nun Desaster? Very unlikely.
@Azazelx
Thanks for the words, in every case I will definitly continue my work.
And congrats Kalashnikov
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Post by: Alpharius
Minx wrote: ph34r wrote:So are people just assuming that the models will look as amazing or more than the concept art? Are people really throwing money at a product that they can't see, a product which has its value entirely based on aesthetics?
Judging from their past products, especially their miniatures here on my desk, I am quite confident about their ability to deliver stunning models close to the concept art. It's just a matter of time and your patience as others have mentioned as well
Agreed!
However...scale will be VERY important...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Very, very, very important. I think the stuff RH makes is great, but they've got to get the scale right. Can't have another Spartan Games "28mm" catastrophe again.
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Post by: Ouze
I'm very excited about it, also presuming they can match the concept art, and that the scale is correct.
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Post by: RiTides
Hey! I'm looking forward to this once
Unfortunately, I likely won't have 'net access when it goes live, so no chance at an early slot. Will be watching, though... really can't wait to see the sculpts, particularly with size comparison shots.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I hope when they do go live they have at least on prototype in the material(s) they plan to use just so we can see how the digital sculpts carry over physically
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Post by: Yonan
WolfStark wrote:Nothing is more important as being critical. It's a shame that too often people who're not "shut up and take my money!" are called haters.
Dakka seems pretty good with regards to this, but the KS comments can be pretty bad. Constructive criticism is essential, whining and "entitled gamer" demands are not.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I have the Kurganova boxset on my painting table right now, and I can say that the three sisters (if you don't take into account the officer caps) are exactly the same height as my Inquisitor Coteaz. Half of the height is legs... which is fun to contemplate...
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Post by: Tannhauser42
WolfStark wrote:Nothing is more important as being critical. It's a shame that too often people who're not "shut up and take my money!" are called haters. I am not an American but I have the feeling there was or is a different dealing with critiques like Siskel & Ebert in the movie sector. But my feeling is also, that it's not even the slightest as bad in miniatures as it is in games.^^ So I am hoping no one stops with being critical positive and negative, there can't be progress without it. I think the problem is that a lot of people don't understand the difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism. Anyway, I've also got the Kurganova sisters, and while they are the same height as other GW models, they are certainly not as bulky, or "big boned."
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Post by: Alpharius
Do we have confirmation that there even will be "early bird" slots?
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Post by: AlexHolker
Alpharius wrote:Do we have confirmation that there even will be "early bird" slots?
That was the reason given for the countdown.
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Post by: Alpharius
Never been a big fan of the "Early Bird" craze, even though I can understand the reasoning behind it.
I don't think many campaigns really 'need' it - but then, that's what Crowdfunding is all about - if it works, it gets the money!
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Post by: Kroothawk
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I'll look forward to buying the minis if they match up to the beautiful artwork, scale readily against 28mm scifi wargames and are readily available... when they are available.
H.B.M.C. wrote: MeanGreenStompa wrote:I'll look forward to buying the minis if they match up to the beautiful artwork, scale readily against 28mm scifi wargames and are readily available... when they are available.
I've highlighted the really important part of the quote above.
Alpharius wrote:However...scale will be VERY important...
H.B.M.C. wrote:Very, very, very important. I think the stuff RH makes is great, but they've got to get the scale right.
I think after the first 500 feedback posts to Raging Heroes (50% by Azazelx ) and the first 5 confirmations by RH that they will take care, we can have a bit of confidence. Doesn't hurt to mention it in every second post of this thread though, just in case 500 is not enough
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Kroothawk wrote:
I think after the first 500 feedback posts to Raging Heroes (50% by Azazelx ) and the first 5 confirmations by RH that they will take care, we can have a bit of confidence. Doesn't hurt to mention it in every second post of this thread though, just in case 500 is not enough
We're repeating the message so the passage of months does not make memories hazy...
And in case we're then looking at many more months, or perhaps a year...
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Post by: Alpharius
Apparently that's what the vast 'Skull and Bones Wanting Majority' did too, so we're just covering our bases here.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
I am impressed the majority wanted just sculls and did't like the compromise of having an alternative, of course I wonder from were was that majority, I am not saying there wasn't any, but I for example was not in their FB (or any FB) and not on their blog.
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Post by: jah-joshua
how would we know that these are GW stand-ins if they didn't have a heap of skulls???
i'm impressed with the RH mini i got a couple weeks ago, Skaarls...
she scales well with the DE characters, is well cast metal, and very detailed...
i look forward to these girls hitting retail, eventually ...
cheers
jah
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Post by: BrookM
Here's an old snappy, they scale up nicely with the GW minis, just maybe a bit of a bother to properly mount on custom bases though, as two of the three sisters have their legs planted rather widely.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
It's interesting how putting him next to a more evenly proportioned mini makes the commissar lord look like elmer fudd...
"I'll get you, you wascally wenegades!"
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Post by: BrookM
I blame the wash I used, ehehehehehe.
But yeah, the girls are a bit leggy, but as a leg man I likes them and they see plenty of use with my revived Guard army. Hopefully soon general Wolfenstein will join the fun as a stand-in Chapter Master with lightning claws!
Maybe use sgt. Parker as a Pask stand-in, who doesn't want a beer chugging tank ace?
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Post by: Ouze
You know who likes that? Men.
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Post by: Alpharius
Nice!
I suspect that Men Who Wargame will also really like this Kickstarter.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
And women. People in general. Legs are sexy.
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Post by: JWMarines
Hopefully its not terribly expensive to get a decently sized army from this. Honestly I want all 3 but I can't imagine I'll be able to afford it.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Kroothawk wrote:I think after the first 500 feedback posts to Raging Heroes (50% by Azazelx ) and the first 5 confirmations by RH that they will take care, we can have a bit of confidence. Doesn't hurt to mention it in every second post of this thread though, just in case 500 is not enough
Bah! Go scale yourself!
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Post by: xraytango
Why is the standard bearer cutting her own throat? IMHO that needs to be rethought.
Other than that I might get in on this.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah, the "cutting her own throat" thing is a bit odd.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Even after jumping into Dreadzone last minute, I am ready, and willing to jump fully on-board with this one, will be interesting to see what they have to show after all this time, and Tuesday was a great choice for me as it's one of my days off.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
The cutting the throat thing is seen around with other psycho bad arse types, but I concur on that sculpt.
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Post by: Widdershinz
I'm really excited for this, going to be getting up at 1 am for the early bird pledging, but i really hope there aren't too many cheesecake models. I'd love a Kurganova without a cleavage cut away for example. I just want someone to make some female minis that are just kicking ass, not kicking ass in a girlie mag. Please please Raging Heroes!
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Post by: Lansirill
xraytango wrote:Why is the standard bearer cutting her own throat? IMHO that needs to be rethought.
Other than that I might get in on this.
The original name for the concept art was 'Caroline-Mae Ophelia Theresa Dibbler'.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Spart Games brought out their skirmish game. They posted lots of previews of very nice models. Reaction here was along the lines of "Shut up and take my money!". The models come out, and they're enormous. Like 32mm+ enormous. Bigger than even the most heroic of heroic sculpts. Interest drops like a stone.
Now no company should be beholden to GW and find themselves forced into making miniatures that fit the scale of GW's games. Still, scaling your minis outside of most other lines only harms yourself.
This is why we keep emphasising the scale thing with RH.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Aye, as much as I love the previews, if they are totally out of scale with 40K, I'd sadly pull back. The rule system thing sounds interesting, but much like Avatars of War, it wasn't the interest in their proposed rule set that had folks snapping up the figs.
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Post by: Raging-Heroes
Regarding scale:
As Kroothawk has mentioned, we have indeed paid close attention to your requests and have worked hard to meet your wishes.
We will also make sure that you are shown line-ups of minis from various makes for comparison purposes during the Kickstarter, to make sure that you know what you're getting into.
Does this help?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Helps very much.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
It would certainly help me, although I already have Olga and Malinka, and I love them. As long as the scale is around their kind of height I have no issues.
I must admit I don't have an Ivanka yet, but that's just a design issue, not a fan of the arm being up. I might get one eventually mind.
I only raised my voice as I seem to remember a mention of a scale above 28mm being mentioned ages back, but I was pretty sure that had been put to bed. The odds are you will be getting a fair amount of cash from me over this kickstarter, and then the Dark Elf one beyond it.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I've got the Sisters as well. They're great.
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Post by: Raging-Heroes
From what we understand, we think perhaps your concern is in the compatibility of Raging Heroes miniatures and old-school style minis.
If you look carefully at old-school minis, you'll notice that their proportions are very unrealistic, with very short squat limbs and super big heads.
These proportions can work OK for male characters, but they tend to come out as pretty ugly with female characters. This is because you can make a male character fairly muscular and bulky in a way that will work well with 28mm minis. I fondly remember some old Grenadier barbarians that were a perfect example of this.
However, you'll rarely get an old-school female 28mm character with a good-looking body because of this.
What we've been trying to do at Raging Heroes is to come up with proportions that make our minis integrate well with most of the ranges on the market, be they old-school or with ore realistic proportions. We think we've done that pretty well with the Sci-Fi Blood Bestals and with the Kurganova sisters.
All in all, if you like how the Kurganova sisters work with your army, you won't be disappointed.
If you have one of the Kurganova sisters, you can count of the Heroines of the TGG to be of the same size.
What we have planned to do is to make the TGG troopers a slightly bit shorter than the heroine characters. We came with this solution after comparing our sculpts with minis from other brands, and it looked like it would make the best integration.
The heroines are a wee bit taller as a way to make them stand out, something that you will have notice is a subtle trick that many miniature makers use.
Again, I hope this helps to clarify things...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Sounds good to me.
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Post by: greywulf
I've never bought a raging heroes fig but I'm interested. Will be at work (blocked) when the campaign kicks off though unfortunately.
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Post by: fattdex
What type of weapon sets will the models come with? I like the look of the Jailbird division (are they the punk chicks?) But I have no interest in using them as proxy miniatures for a platoon/company level wargame as a military division, rather as a skirmish gang game (Judge Dredd) as street punks.
So I am wondering if there will be weapon options for close combat weapons, pistols, shotguns, rifles, automatic rifles, etc, in a more generic/modern style, in addition to the Other Game Compatible Weapons that have been shown?
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Post by: Spellscape
Here is some size comparison photo
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Post by: Breotan
Looks like they'll fit well with Malifaux in both height and thickness. Not sure what I'll do with them, other than display pieces, but I think something will come up.
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Post by: AlexHolker
I'd rather they have reasonable human proportions instead of really long legs and tiny bodies.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I hope those of us backing the Kruganova Shock Troops (the Rambettes are okay and I could go for a squad... maybe but I like armored troopers, and the Neo Prussians just aren't my bag) will have a chance to acquire the Kruganova sisters again, I'd really enjoy painting another one or all three sisters.
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Post by: Yonan
I'd like to get the sisters in not-metal too. I have Ivanka and she's awesome, but metal is icky.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Raging-Heroes wrote:Regarding scale:
As Kroothawk has mentioned, we have indeed paid close attention to your requests and have worked hard to meet your wishes.
We will also make sure that you are shown line-ups of minis from various makes for comparison purposes during the Kickstarter, to make sure that you know what you're getting into.
Does this help?
I will create a link to this statement, just in case the topic comes up ever again
Can't wait for this kickstarter to be over: I want my Dark Elves and Battle Sisters
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Post by: Javin
I hope the rest of the models are not as tall as the sisters. Otherwise they will be too big for GW games.
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Post by: Alpharius
Kroothawk wrote: Raging-Heroes wrote:Regarding scale:
As Kroothawk has mentioned, we have indeed paid close attention to your requests and have worked hard to meet your wishes.
We will also make sure that you are shown line-ups of minis from various makes for comparison purposes during the Kickstarter, to make sure that you know what you're getting into.
Does this help?
I will create a link to this statement, just in case the topic comes up ever again
Since they've said:
We will also make sure that you are shown line-ups of minis from various makes for comparison purposes during the Kickstarter, to make sure that you know what you're getting into.
I don't think that will be necessary...
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I disagree, Alph. There will always be people coming in later who will ask the same question and we can always just point them to the .jpg of the relative sizes. Like WWX did.
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Post by: AlexHolker
26 hours to go.
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Post by: Alpharius
Mathieu Raymond wrote:I disagree, Alph. There will always be people coming in later who will ask the same question and we can always just point them to the .jpg of the relative sizes. Like WWX did.
You're actually agreeing with me then.
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Post by: Yonan
I love a good FAQ.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Javin wrote:I hope the rest of the models are not as tall as the sisters. Otherwise they will be too big for GW games.
This illustrates the "perspective" portion of scale. A few people myself included have said they own one or more of the Kruganova sisters and they fit right in with their IG army or what have you, others think they're too large. Can't please everybody in the end.
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Post by: Krinsath
I do like RH's point about the heroines being slightly larger than the troops. It would also make me side with the people who'd say they're a bit large for an IG force as bog-standard, but as heroes they'd work well IMO.
DeadZone and delays wiped out any chance of me going big on this one, but if they offer some interesting options for Commissars or Stormtroopers I might make a small pledge.
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Post by: Melissia
Let's see... running the list of obnoxious action girl cliches here...
Bared midriffs? Check.
Awkward poses? Check.
Lots of cleavage? Check.
Boob-cup armor? Check.
Pants almost falling off? Check.
I hope the models are better than the concept art. Though Ilsa Wolfenstein and Brusilla Lepic are interesting.
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Post by: AlexHolker
There are three different factions being produced, Melissa. There's still the Shock Troops and Iron Empire, even if you don't like the Jailbirds.
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Post by: Melissia
Yes, I'm quite aware of that.
I wasn't just talking about the Jailbirds, either, but of the entire range of concept art as a whole-- lots of generic, forgettable garbage with only two or three memorable concepts.
That said, the "Jailbirds" are basically an example of everything that I dislike about how most sculptors do female soldier miniatures.
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Post by: Alpharius
I wonder how much money this Kickstarter will end up making?
A lot depends on the pledge levels and what they offer, of course.
And if RH does have concept art, and more importantly, sculpts to show off in scale shots?
I'm guessing the answer is going to be: A lot.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Melissia wrote:That said, the "Jailbirds" are basically an example of everything that I dislike about how most sculptors do female soldier miniatures.
... that sell like hot cakes to male teens around the world
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Post by: Melissia
Kroothawk wrote: Melissia wrote:That said, the "Jailbirds" are basically an example of everything that I dislike about how most sculptors do female soldier miniatures.
... that sell like hot cakes to male teens around the world
So does McDonald's, that doesn't make it good, just popular
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Post by: WolfStark
The Iron Empire and the Shock Troops have no bare middriffs except for the not sexy priestess, no cleavage and pants aren't almost falling off too. Boob armor is (unfortunatly) there, yes but I can't see awkward poseing. Mostly the Jailbirds are in that "skin"-range category.. 1 of 3 factions, I think that is a damn good ratio and I think It's not bad to have one faction with more punk.
Regard the whole sclae discussion: The sisters are big and the legs long but there are also the heels and hats, that make them that high.
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Post by: Daniel_Holmes
I ask only that one question be answered: will this be a single run for the kickstarter only or will these be available after tr kickstarter on their website? I would like to invest in this KS but if I can't get more after to fill out an army then what's the point?
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Post by: keltikhoa
I remember reading somewhere that they planned on doing also a Dark Eldar type army as well as a "Female Paladin" (Sisters of battle) type army. Are the Kurganova the Female Paladin army? Yes they are armored but they do not exactly scream "Heavy armored" to me.
I guess what I am asking is are there going to be more kickstarters in the future?
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
There are going to be more KSes to follow for the Dark Elves and the Paladins, the Kruganova Shock Troopers are not the female paladins. The female paladin army is probably going to destroy my free time and discretionary spending for a good bit when they do come out.
@Daniel_Holmes all factions and models will be available through Raging Heroes after the KS finishes up. Rules are shortly to follow as well. This is the launch pad for round one of RH's own game and armies, a permanent large expansion to their available (and awesome) model line.
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Post by: keltikhoa
KalashnikovMarine wrote:There are going to be more KSes to follow for the Dark Elves and the Paladins, the Kruganova Shock Troopers are not the female paladins. The female paladin army is probably going to destroy my free time and discretionary spending for a good bit when they do come out.
@Daniel_Holmes all factions and models will be available through Raging Heroes after the KS finishes up. Rules are shortly to follow as well. This is the launch pad for round one of RH's own game and armies, a permanent large expansion to their available (and awesome) model line.
Thankya kindly! Very glad to hear that.
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Post by: keltikhoa
Good is a relative term. Im a 30 yr old married father of 2. I personally think these concepts are great. I can understand your dislike of the over the top design but considering the inspiration Raging Heroes wrote:Imagine a bunch of punk-ass big-mouth bad girls, kind of like a mix between Aliens' Vasquez, Tank Girl, and Planet Terror's Cherry Darling, and you get an army of psyched Rambo girls – we like to call them "the Rambettes" - that you would not want to approach if you care for your life.
would you really expect then NOT to turn out this way?
I am not saying you are wrong. You dislike them and that is your entitled opinion. However they set out to make Punk-ass big-mouth bad girls, and judging from concepts they have designed models that fit that bill. If they had drawn inspiration from Lt. Mira of the SpaceMarine video game (flakk jacket, no boob cups, full uniform) or Diz and other infantry girls from Starship Troopers (standard issue armor that hides the fact that they are female) then yes I would agree that they missed the mark entirely.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Yeah I admit I'm not a huge fan of the Rambettes like I said earlier, I mean they have a very nice visual style, but it's the 'Nam look all over again. Not my bag, but some folks like that, I think the Kruganova have a more realistic female scifi badass look going on and I'm good with that.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Melissia wrote:That said, the "Jailbirds" are basically an example of everything that I dislike about how most sculptors do female soldier miniatures. I think that's their entire point of existence from the name onwards.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
What annoying Melissia? That's a pretty limited demographic
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
No, been everything that Melissia is annoyed by, pretty big demographic.
Not intended to be read as insulting.
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Post by: Melissia
I think you're being confused.
I didn't say that ALL of the concept art was bad, even listed two that I liked in particular.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Must have been on the other thread, my apologies if I missed it, I was referring to the jailbirds, not the entire range.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I'm just teasing Mel.
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Post by: Jimsolo
I for one am stoked. The Jailbirds seem like a decent fill-in for anywhere I might otherwise use Catachans, and they seem about similarly armed and armored. The Kurganova shock troops seem pretty sweet too, although I'm not usually a huge fan of the gas-mask look. Sure, they're all over the top, but if you're buying them to sub in for 40k models, then they'll fit right in. (Because it isn't like any of the other armies in 40k are subtle or anything... )
I've been really impressed with the detail in Raging Heroes minis so far, and I've been watching this with some real interest. This is probably going to be the first Kickstarter I'll have ever donated to.
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
I'm continually impressed by Raging Heroes minis, and while the idea of fielding an army of them excites me, the thought of painting that many to the standard the minis deserve frightens me.
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Post by: Jimsolo
HisDivineShadow wrote:I'm continually impressed by Raging Heroes minis, and while the idea of fielding an army of them excites me, the thought of painting that many to the standard the minis deserve frightens me.
Oh heeell no... I'm paying to have it done.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
They are not part of the jailbird division.
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Post by: Zond
I'd like to combine the Kurganova's/Iron Empire with some Eisenkern, and the Jailbirds with... something. End result would be lovely mixed armies of loyalists and rebels fighting it out. This would possibly involve the use of some Statuesque miniatures as partisans, and some Antenociti miniatures as mercenaries if the aesthetic somehow all came together.
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
The combinations of RH with Eisenkern is my plan as well. I've seen them both in comparison to SM, and both seem to have the height, but not mass that is usual of GW. I think they shall look quite beautiful together.
with all the disparate rumors and ideas RH has floated I'm a bit confused tho, they hinted at a Sisters style army, is that the Kurganova or Iron empire faction, or another planned KS altogether?
Depending on price point, they may end up as my Sisters army.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Zond wrote:I'd like to combine the Kurganova's/Iron Empire with some Eisenkern, and the Jailbirds with... something. End result would be lovely mixed armies of loyalists and rebels fighting it out. This would possibly involve the use of some Statuesque miniatures as partisans, and some Antenociti miniatures as mercenaries if the aesthetic somehow all came together.
I'm waiting for your cheque on the licensing for that idea. I've been hoarding all of those minis for a while, just waiting for the shock troops to complete the picture.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
Wait, hold up... I was stoked for these minis... then I realized theyre just minis... will there be a ruleset...? Preferably skirmish based with lots of Tarantino-esque action?
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
chaos0xomega wrote:Wait, hold up... I was stoked for these minis... then I realized theyre just minis... will there be a ruleset...? Preferably skirmish based with lots of Tarantino-esque action?
Rule set is under development now per the RH website.
HisDivineShadow wrote:
with all the disparate rumors and ideas RH has floated I'm a bit confused tho, they hinted at a Sisters style army, is that the Kurganova or Iron empire faction, or another planned KS altogether?
Depending on price point, they may end up as my Sisters army.
None of these are not the SoB style army. Those will come out after the Dark Elves type army gets it's KS.
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Post by: Vermillion
A little tidbit prekickstarter starting
we will have a great digital coffee table book included in the pledges, lavishly designed, that will include all the TGG concept art, many unreleased sketches, stories and background, embedded videos of concept art drawing and 3D sculpting, and more...
Yep they also plan on having rules too
Inquisitor Wappellious those are some great paintjobs. Don't happen to any of the Empire style minis painted up by any chance as would love to see what you did with them!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Digital? I really hope they offer a physical one too.
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Post by: Vermillion
They were asked if any of the artwork would be available as posters, it would all depend on demand, no mention of a physical artbook however.
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Post by: Herzlos
I'd certainly be interested in some mini posters, or postcard sized (6"x4") art cards, like Ax faction do.
Bigger posters would be great and all, but I've got limited space for such things in the gaming room already.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
So I figure it's a couple hours till go time, so I'll share something that got shared with the Heralds. I'm a bad man I know but I'll take my court martial if it comes with pride.
One of the launch figurines that hasn't had her concept art shared yet. She's called #42, and she is a Cyber Zombie, personal bodyguard of Lady Hilda von Stroheim of the Iron Empire.
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Post by: AlexHolker
If she came with an alternate head and arm, I'd be sorely tempted to pick one up to paint as Evelynn from League of Legends.
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Post by: Denkstrum
A physical art book will probably cost too much to ship to include in this kickstarter, but i hope they offer one down the line. I'm looking forward to the digital art book, they've teased that it will include background on the universe that they are building.
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Post by: praetor24
I am not so much interested in the minis (although I will go for a couple of characters), but an artbook? This thing definitely rocks my boat
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Doubt the artbook would cost too much, if you can budget it in it will work.
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Post by: Vermillion
Haha I wasn't going to post #42 myself and let people go "wow more space zombies" when the kickstarter begun
That is some lovely paintwork on the Konigsmark Sister, the box set is next on my to buy list. Pity my painting won't do them justice like yours! Been looking at the mounted character set as well mind you
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Post by: Zond
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Zond wrote:I'd like to combine the Kurganova's/Iron Empire with some Eisenkern, and the Jailbirds with... something. End result would be lovely mixed armies of loyalists and rebels fighting it out. This would possibly involve the use of some Statuesque miniatures as partisans, and some Antenociti miniatures as mercenaries if the aesthetic somehow all came together.
I'm waiting for your cheque on the licensing for that idea. I've been hoarding all of those minis for a while, just waiting for the shock troops to complete the picture.
I'll cut you that cheque when you give me some good figs for the Jailbirds that aren't Catachans
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I had to post it Ver, I honestly see it as more of a servitor then a space zombeh.
Any way some people asked about the forthcoming TGG rules. Here's the info culled from the RH website.
"It is still early to talk about the game as it's not the goal of the TGG Kickstarter. However, you should know that we've been working on a game system for quite some time now. It will be very scalable, allowing to play small skirmishes to large tabletop battle. Most of all, it will be very cinematic and centered about the high deeds of heroes and other characters.
Our goal is to immerse you in the same excitement and action that you'd get in the great battle scenes of movies like Braveheart, Lord of the Rings, or Starship Troopers...
This TGG Kickstarter will allow you not only to have female miniatures that can be played in many game settings, but also to make sure you have access to full Raging Heroes armies at the moment we launch our game."
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Post by: Ouze
lol, no.
I think this is the weakest thing they've posted yet, but that's a weird thing to say because everything else seems pretty good.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I really like it myself, if we can buy multiples of them, I might get a couple more for conversion possibilities and give the 'evil' leader a circle of guards.
Getting very close now, got to pop out soon, and by the time I get back, it'll be time to login to Kickstarter and start the Ctrl F5 dance.
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Post by: grefven
I quite enjoy #42 myself. I dont have any interest in building a huge army, but getting a few individual characters will definately be worth it if they can keep the sculpts close to the concepts.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
50 mins to go. Ready and waiting.
Not a fan of "Naked Dead Girl #42" TBH. I hope all the Cyber Zombies aren't like that.
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Post by: keltikhoa
This post is info for me and the others like me who were wondering about the dark elf and not SoB armies.
Raging Heroes wrote:The Sisters of Eternal Mercy
If you happen to have thoroughly combed through the Raging Heroes' blog, you might remember The Orphanage of the Sisters of Eternal Mercy, a very early project of ours.
Well, the Sisters are about to see the light. We've been working on a futuristic Paladin Sisterhood army for quite some time now and we have a lot of stuff tucked away for this.
We're not releasing anything yet, to avoid confusion with the first Kickstarter project described above. However, we would very much like to get your input on this project, so don't hesitate to write us with your suggestions.
(Again, a forum will soon be set up to help with these interactions).
This project is likely to become another Kickstarter.
The Dark Elves invasion
Before Christmas, we said that we would have a big announcement for the Dark Elves players.
Well, if you read until now, you've probably guessed what's going on:
we have a full Dark Elves ARMY in the works...
...a LOT of which having already been done...
However, as for the Sisterhood, we'll have to hold off a bit on their release, because the “Rambettes" Kickstarter is demanding all of our attention right now.
But don't let that prevent you from contacting us about this project, sharing your thoughts and sending us your wants for this project that might also become a Kickstarter.
We hope to post some concept images of what's to come in the next few days.
Automatically Appended Next Post: H.B.M.C. wrote:50 mins to go. Ready and waiting.
Not a fan of "Naked Dead Girl #42" TBH. I hope all the Cyber Zombies aren't like that.
Aww its not that bad. Just paint her up while listening to Rob Zombie "Living Dead Girl"
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
*checks his bolter* We are prepared, thirty two minutes remain till operational activation conditions are achieved.
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Post by: quiestdeus
One thousand times this! I have female minis for both my Sister's IG and GK allied forces EXCEPT for my servitors... as I was unable to find a model I liked while holding a plasma cannon or MM on its shoulder. This has so much potential!
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Post by: Matney X
30 minutes 'til launch. I'm already working up my pitch for my wife (it may be a tough sell, though, with my box from Reaper still sitting unpainted).
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Matney X wrote:30 minutes 'til launch. I'm already working up my pitch for my wife (it may be a tough sell, though, with my box from Reaper still sitting unpainted). Possible pitches: 1. "They're not completely naked." 2. "Yes honey. You're much better looking than most of them."
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Post by: Tresson
Matney X wrote:30 minutes 'til launch. I'm already working up my pitch for my wife (it may be a tough sell, though, with my box from Reaper still sitting unpainted).
Buy them as a present for her?
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Post by: Azazelx
I hope they finish this KS before starting the next one. Kickstarter Experiences #2012-13 indicate that a project finishing in July has NFC of being complete in December.
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Post by: gossipmeng
Can't wait to check out the campaign.
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Post by: Alpharius
F5 on this thread has been activated...
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
They just posted this on facebook
Dropped a full glass of water on the portable computer a 3AM last night, just before uploading the final video.
Dried it out all night, got it to work 2 hours ago, and launched the final uplaod. Currently at 60%... Might be up right on time, or a couple of minutes late... Arrggggghhhh... Be still my heart...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
You made it Alpha! Welcome! So Raging Heroes is going to miss another deadline? What's next? Water is wet?
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Post by: Herzlos
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They just posted this on facebook
Dropped a full glass of water on the portable computer a 3AM last night, just before uploading the final video.
Dried it out all night, got it to work 2 hours ago, and launched the final uplaod. Currently at 60%... Might be up right on time, or a couple of minutes late... Arrggggghhhh... Be still my heart...
I was wondering how close to time it'd run. I'm not going anywhere anyway
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Post by: Azazelx
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They just posted this on facebook
Dropped a full glass of water on the portable computer a 3AM last night, just before uploading the final video.
Dried it out all night, got it to work 2 hours ago, and launched the final uplaod. Currently at 60%... Might be up right on time, or a couple of minutes late... Arrggggghhhh... Be still my heart...
Yay! Another Raging Heroes Delay!
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Post by: Alpharius
Reset the countdown!!!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
soooooooon
soooooon
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Post by: Azazelx
Herzlos wrote:
I was wondering how close to time it'd run. I'm not going anywhere anyway
I want to go to sleep. 1am here.
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Post by: Yonan
East coast is worst coast.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
And I was panicking, only just got in again. Logging into Kickstarter now.
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Post by: Herzlos
I feel your pain. However I'm in work for another couple of hours so I'm not in any mad rush. If it launches on the drive home you'll hear my wails of Anguish from there
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I've got work in the morning... oh wait... I'm working from home. I can sleep in 'til 9, walk down my hallway, and be at work.
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Post by: Alpharius
Ah yeah....no.
There's a reason while things key of US EST.
Anyway - let's launch this thing already - I've got to get back to work!
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Post by: Yonan
Who would have thought, their KS launch is late ; p
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Post by: Ouze
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They just posted this on facebook
Dropped a full glass of water on the portable computer a 3AM last night, just before uploading the final video.
Dried it out all night, got it to work 2 hours ago, and launched the final uplaod. Currently at 60%... Might be up right on time, or a couple of minutes late... Arrggggghhhh... Be still my heart...
I swear I worked on that report! MY dog just went nuts and ate it for no reason!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
nobody
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Post by: Herzlos
I reckon from the upload rate posted (96%) we've got about 7-8 mins to wait.
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Post by: Azazelx
Could be worse. I could live in Adelaide or Perth...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Alpharius wrote:Ah yeah....no.
There's a reason while things key of US EST.
Anyway - let's launch this thing already - I've got to get back to work!
Pretty sure Yonan meant East Coast Australia, where it is currently 1am in the morning.
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Post by: Breotan
Herzlos wrote:I reckon from the upload rate posted (96%) we've got about 7-8 mins to wait.
According to their page, the upload is complete.
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Post by: gohkm
Bloody hurry up! I've got a presentation at a client first thing at 9am tomorrow morning!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
well the countdown is over
let the waiting begin!
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Post by: Yonan
Yeah, I should have quoted. 11 PM is much more reasonable time on the good coast.
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Post by: Azazelx
Yonan wrote:Who would have thought, their KS launch is late ; p
It's important that RH remain in character...
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Post by: Alpharius
H.B.M.C. wrote: Alpharius wrote:Ah yeah....no.
There's a reason while things key of US EST.
Anyway - let's launch this thing already - I've got to get back to work!
Pretty sure Yonan meant East Coast Australia, where it is currently 1am in the morning.
Sorry - I'll calm down now... :(
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yonan wrote:Yeah, I should have quoted. 11 PM is much more reasonable time on the good coast.
Well where I am it's Wednesday, so we live in the future!
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I guess I'm supposed to be refreshing the recently launched page.. aye?
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Post by: Breotan
YAY!!!! EARLY BIRD BID FOR THE WIN!
Now I can finally... oh, wait. It isn't up yet.
Um... what the hell did I just pledge on then? o.O
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Post by: Yonan
H.B.M.C. wrote: Yonan wrote:Yeah, I should have quoted. 11 PM is much more reasonable time on the good coast.
Well where I am it's Wednesday, so we live in the future!
So sci-fi! Are there any scantily dressed ladies with guns there?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
*headdesk*
Come the feth on. I want to go to bed.
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Post by: Slinky
Toner-based comedy. Not what I was after....
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Post by: keltikhoa
is there a page on kickstarter yet? I can not find one
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Post by: Minx
Breotan wrote:YAY!!!! EARLY BIRD BID FOR THE WIN!
Um... what the hell did I just pledge on then? o.O
Thanks for supporting my eco-friendly water-soluble umbrella kickstarter.
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Post by: keltikhoa
nvm lol
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Its on the side bar when you go to the projects page
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Post by: Herzlos
Yonan wrote:http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/recently-launched?ref=sidebar#p1
recently launched page I'm refreshing ; p
Git. I thought that was the link there and pounced!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Noooooo
want to pledge NOW
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Post by: Azazelx
Ah thanks.
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Post by: Ouze
On the plus side, I found some pretty awesome tattoos for under my ripped jeans.
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Post by: grefven
Or just come back tomorrow for yet another launch. It will be up any minute now... Soon! Promise.
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Post by: Yonan
If it helps, refreshing that page will get you the link the quickest... hopefully ; p
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Post by: Azazelx
Yeah, there really is some gak on Kickstarter, isn't there? I liked the writeup on the "Waking Faith" one.
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Post by: Lansirill
YES! IT LAUNCHED.
...wait, we weren't waiting for Santa Signal?
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Post by: Slinky
Santa signal, anyone?
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Post by: Yonan
Yes, there's definitely a lot of gak going up on KS constantly haha.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I want to launch the "HBMC needs a new car" kickstarter. I figure you can do anything on this damned site, so why not that? Ouze wrote:On the plus side, I found some pretty awesome tattoos for under my ripped jeans. If this doesn't launch soon I'm backing that one!
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Post by: Breotan
Kickstarter update: The Santa Signal ~ Christmas device for inside your chimney!
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Post by: Alpharius
Warning for every one pulling the rug out on me by posting in this thread!!!
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Well this is a special kind of torture got to leave the house for an appointment in 14 minutes and I've still got to put all the gardening stuff away, should've guessed it wasn't going to launch on time
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Post by: Slinky
$7k already
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Post by: Breotan
Oh, yea. It's live. And my sig goes to in in case none of the many URLs posted above are clear enough.
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Post by: Temujin
100% funded in a few seconds. Not bad.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Ok, so the Early Birds are on the bigger ones.
What if I don't want troops and just want single hero models?
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Post by: Herzlos
WTF? All 50 early birds are already gone...
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Post by: kilcin
watching this go from 0 backers to 77 at about 17k backed is crazy... I might just watch it for the first hour to watch the numbers climb.
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Post by: inqscott
its there on ks
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Post by: Alpharius
DAMN!
They are going fast!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
And its up
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Indeed they are and I managed to snag one before I had to go out phew.
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Post by: Slinky
$44k already - this is faster than Deadzone I think!
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Early bird general, yay!
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Post by: Herzlos
4 times the funding goal already. Woah.
Mind you, a lot of that must be people grabbing early birds on spec, because no-one could have read and decided on a level in 10 minutes.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Off to sulk as KS crashed out on me while pledging so no earl bird for me
not impressed
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Post by: Slinky
2nd Lieutenant early bird level is up now!
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Post by: kilcin
looks like their adding earlybird tiers
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Aye, grabbed a early bird General straight away, I want to make a couple of forces from this lot.
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Post by: Redbeard
Got a colonel box
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Post by: kilcin
they need more stretch goals posted already.
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Post by: Krinsath
Hrm...no lower-end pledge for just a heroine and a single 10 woman squad. Granted, $23 shipping probably makes it silly to go in that low anyway.
Might have to pass and try to pick up some stuff at retail.
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Post by: BrookM
Maybe it's me, but I can't seem to find the stretch goals on this one. Also, the minis I want seem to still be locked away at undetermined stretch levels.
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Post by: Breotan
You better be participating in the DCM hobby spending thread.
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Post by: fattdex
Not feelin it.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I dunno what Tann does for work but I want his job, got one of the second LT early bird boxes.
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Post by: Herzlos
It looks like the medic mini is only available from $345+?
2nd round for Lieutenant early birds are gone as well.
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Post by: Lansirill
Not much savings to the bundles over add-ons unless you go in REAL heavy. Col. level is $790 of stuff for $715/745, but Major and below you're pretty much paying value + $15. (Of course, I assume stretch goals and what not will improve the value.)
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Well it let me back for the 2nd Lieutenant level and too my pledge,
but it does not seem to have registered on KS
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Post by: decker_cky
Heh...they put up an early bird commander pledge level at $120 more than commander accidentally and someone pledged to it.
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Post by: BrookM
Decided to pledge for $40 for now, though I can always add to that one instead of jumping levels.
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BrookM wrote:Maybe it's me, but I can't seem to find the stretch goals on this one. Also, the minis I want seem to still be locked away at undetermined stretch levels.
$17,000
$22,000
$25,000
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Post by: Azazelx
Well, I'm in for an EB $345.
Is it too early to threaten to pull my pledge?
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Post by: Herzlos
Lansirill wrote:Not much savings to the bundles over add-ons unless you go in REAL heavy. Col. level is $790 of stuff for $715/745, but Major and below you're pretty much paying value + $15. (Of course, I assume stretch goals and what not will improve the value.)
Yeah I'm in at early commander which is giving me about $240 worth of stuff for $250 ( UK postage). Maybe the stretch goals will nudge it in my favour, but it's still a reasonable discount versus RRP.
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Post by: Javin
Bummer all the early birds are gone.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
BrookM wrote:Maybe it's me, but I can't seem to find the stretch goals on this one. Also, the minis I want seem to still be locked away at undetermined stretch levels.
Well i suppose they are still reeling from the shock, now 6 times the amount.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Azazelx wrote:Well, I'm in for an EB $345.
Is it too early to threaten to pull my pledge?
I'd wait a few days, for the spirit of it.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Yes, give it ten more minutes Az, word on the Herald comm nets is that they're scrambling to get the rest of the stretch goals up. I'm already probably boosting my pledge by one or two more heroes, two more squads of grunts and two squads and a command squad of heavy grunts.
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Post by: Herzlos
decker_cky wrote:Heh...they put up an early bird commander pledge level at $120 more than commander accidentally and someone pledged to it.
I assumed they meant it was a captain level instead of commander.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Started watching the video at $60k. When it was done they were on $80k. Ouch.
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Post by: Azazelx
Herzlos wrote: Lansirill wrote:Not much savings to the bundles over add-ons unless you go in REAL heavy. Col. level is $790 of stuff for $715/745, but Major and below you're pretty much paying value + $15. (Of course, I assume stretch goals and what not will improve the value.)
Yeah I'm in at early commander which is giving me about $240 worth of stuff for $250 ( UK postage). Maybe the stretch goals will nudge it in my favour, but it's still a reasonable discount versus RRP.
With the mad rush to get an early bird, people were just grabbing whatever is available and roughly fit their budget. I'm assuming that stretch goals will make them better value than a slight RRP discount. And if they don't, it's easy enough to just...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
So we're nearly at $90k... I guess those first few Stretch Goals were kinda meaningless? $17k? I think it had that much a few seconds in! LOL!
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
Early birds were gone before page loaded. Now I guess I'll wait to pledge. Yay
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Post by: BrookM
Here's hoping I can add dosh to my $40 pledge for some extra minis, don't want to pledge $95 just so I got to pay for a mini I don't want.
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Post by: Denkstrum
I know they've mentioned before that they talked to quite a few other companies that got hosed on the shipping costs, so they probably hedged theri bets early, but will make up for it in the end with value as we get through the tiers. I can see a lull occurring if the value isn't there for the first little bit though.
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Post by: Azazelx
Heh. I just noticed that 4 of the initial 7 heroines are priced at $15 each - so they don't fit the "x number of $10 heroines" in their pledge levels...
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Post by: Herzlos
Azazelx wrote:Herzlos wrote: Lansirill wrote:Not much savings to the bundles over add-ons unless you go in REAL heavy. Col. level is $790 of stuff for $715/745, but Major and below you're pretty much paying value + $15. (Of course, I assume stretch goals and what not will improve the value.)
Yeah I'm in at early commander which is giving me about $240 worth of stuff for $250 ( UK postage). Maybe the stretch goals will nudge it in my favour, but it's still a reasonable discount versus RRP.
With the mad rush to get an early bird, people were just grabbing whatever is available and roughly fit their budget. I'm assuming that stretch goals will make them better value than a slight RRP discount. And if they don't, it's easy enough to just...
That's my thinking, I've gone in for far more than I intended initially as it was the first mini's based early backer, though the difference isn't that much (~$15) should I want to drop down to a lower non- EB later. I suspect there will be plenty of them free before it ends.
I am surprised they only had 50 of each though, but I doubt they were expect that level of pledging by a long shot. We're nearly at 9x the funding goal and it's only been open 30 minutes.
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Post by: Stormfather
Female Guardsmen cannot be profitable. Sisters of Battle cannot be profitable. These are the indisputable facts. Raging Heroes is insane if they think this project will ever meet that lofty target of $10,000. Insane, I tell you.
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Post by: decker_cky
Herzlos wrote:decker_cky wrote:Heh...they put up an early bird commander pledge level at $120 more than commander accidentally and someone pledged to it.
I assumed they meant it was a captain level instead of commander.
Description is clearly commander, and the bundle is $2 more than the non-early bird captain pledge.
Looking again, there's actually two screwed up commander pledge levels with people pledging blindly: 350 and 367.
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Post by: Breotan
Heros are metal and troops are spin-cast resin. Really going to have to think long and hard about this one. :(
Still, I have a month or so to decide.
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Post by: Yonan
Happy with my EB Colonel pledge. What they've got up is looking really good so far. Pricing and value etc. I'm happy to wait for. But yeah some of the heroines don't seem worth the premium they have over the others. 3d sculpt for nepharya looks reidiculously awesome.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Hmm... kinda sad that all the major deals involve infantry. I don't really want any infantry. It'd be nice to get a deal for people who just want the Heroines.
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
That mad Nurse model is amazing.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Ok. Nearly 2am. It's bed time.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
H.B.M.C. wrote:Hmm... kinda sad that all the major deals involve infantry. I don't really want any infantry. It'd be nice to get a deal for people who just want the Heroines.
The Painter level is for 8x heroines and the digital art book.
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Post by: Yonan
They're a few stretch goals behind for some reason, these guys are never on time!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
And that's 100k.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Valentine!
Disappointed that the captain box getting the free stuff was buried I feel a bit mislead
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah... and that's it. The "sweet spot" pledge is both higher and is for mostly infantry. There's no "Heroines Only" equivalent of the sweet spot pledge. That's what I wanted.
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Post by: Herzlos
Breotan wrote:Heros are metal and troops are spin-cast resin. Really going to have to think long and hard about this one. :(
Still, I have a month or so to decide.
Hopefully they've figured out spin-cast resin and don't pull a GW :p
Still, I'd have expect it to be the other way round - resin hero's and metal troops but I'm sure they know what they are doing
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Post by: Ouze
What is the difference between the $230 EB package and the $350 one?
Both appear to be completely identical.
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Post by: Herzlos
KalashnikovMarine wrote:http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy/
Kick Traq can't keep up it's moving so fast, it's 30k behind the actual numbers.
Kick Traq only updates every 10 minutes or so I think. It'll look a lot more reasonable once the initial rush calms down.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Looking at it the models are actually higher than GW models during the KS. Not sure how well that will translate to retail for them but I'm in at the $150 early bird. I noticed the value doesn't increase dramatically until you hit the $475+ levels and I figure an early bird on those isn't worth giving up the more likely level I'm going to hang out at.
Models look cool but the shipping is pretty gnarly.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Yeah the shipping is brutal.
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Post by: Breotan
Well, this isn't an American group. RH is in France, iirc.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
For the KS projects where I've had to pay shipping this is one of the cheapest!
(of course if you're used to free it's expensive, LOl)
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Post by: Kroothawk
Kickstarter 30 minutes online and already 100k, 844% funded! You folks are crazy
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Well this kickstarter started with a major disappointment for me.
There goes the early bird I wonder why I ever camped for it, the entire page is arcane and un intuitive, the pledges a mess and the only reference that commander and upward gets free minis is buried.
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
For the stated goal, I don't think they could have done what they posted. I've read a lot of successful KS set the bar below what is actually required, so it can show as funded, thus encouraging pledges.
Even so, surely at 100k plus already they've hit the real level.
But even so, this is an obvious point that female figure can sell. if you make great minis, people will buy them. In droves.
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Post by: Ouze
It looks like they're adding more "early bird" levels. The $230 one now also has a $233 one next to it with 49 remaining.
Same at the $350 level - again, not clear what the difference between the $230, $233, and $350 levels are; they seem identical.
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Post by: Yonan
PsychoticStorm wrote:Well this kickstarter started with a major disappointment for me.
There goes the early bird I wonder why I ever camped for it, the entire page is arcane and un intuitive, the pledges a mess and the only reference that commander and upward gets free minis is buried.
*boggle*
I thought it was really well laid out, with an easy to see graphic for what each pledge level received.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Do what Mantic and Secret did and get distrubtors that will ship for you in major markets to keep down cost. Charging $23 in shipping to what is generally the largest group involved in kickstarters doesn't bode well for speculators.
Example: At the $150-$165 level I'm paying around 15% shipping. Which means that it's almost better to wait for retail, take the 20% discount that you can generally get from larger online retailers, and pay little to no shipping.
But I like the figures shown so far, they make pretty stuff, I'm willing to go in for a bit and see what happens over the campaign. Way more excited for this than the mantic one I just completed
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Post by: Tresson
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:For the KS projects where I've had to pay shipping this is one of the cheapest!
(of course if you're used to free it's expensive, LOl)
Yeah $23 in shipping to Canada isn't that surprising.
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Post by: Breotan
PsychoticStorm wrote:Well this kickstarter started with a major disappointment for me. There goes the early bird I wonder why I ever camped for it, the entire page is arcane and un intuitive, the pledges a mess and the only reference that commander and upward gets free minis is buried.
Um... no. Early Bird Special LIEUTENANT BOX - 3 $10 Heroines (or $30 worth of Heroines) + 4 $15 Troops (or $60 worth of Troops) + 4 $15 Supports (or $60 worth of Supports) + Kickstarter exclusive miniature + the TGG Digital Artbook. This level also INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL UNLOCKED FREEBIES.
The Commander and above just get extra hero models but they're not the only one with "free minis".
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Post by: Yonan
112,000 - 1000% funded within the hour.
"Second stretch goal, because we're optimistic ;-)"
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Post by: Tresson
Yonan wrote:112,000 - 1000% funded within the hour.
"Second stretch goal, because we're optimistic ;-)"
Your math is off. $120 000 would 1000% of 12 000
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Post by: pretre
Backing for $1 to keep an eye on it. Not sure quite yet.
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
Yonan wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote:Well this kickstarter started with a major disappointment for me.
There goes the early bird I wonder why I ever camped for it, the entire page is arcane and un intuitive, the pledges a mess and the only reference that commander and upward gets free minis is buried.
*boggle*
I thought it was really well laid out, with an easy to see graphic for what each pledge level received.
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I agree. There had a wealth of graphics for each level showing what you get. And you can choose which faction boxes, unlike being forced into a starter for each. Something that kept me out of Dead zone.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Yonan wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote:Well this kickstarter started with a major disappointment for me.
There goes the early bird I wonder why I ever camped for it, the entire page is arcane and un intuitive, the pledges a mess and the only reference that commander and upward gets free minis is buried.
*boggle*
I thought it was really well laid out, with an easy to see graphic for what each pledge level received.
And that's BEFORE the stretch goals, the freebies, the free upgrades, and the gift minis included in all pledges from CAPTAIN BOX and above...
Early Bird Special COMMANDER BOX - 5 $10 Heroines (or $50 worth of Heroines) + 6 $15 Troops (or $90 worth of Troops) + 6 $15 Supports (or $90 worth of Supports) + Kickstarter exclusive miniature + 1 Additional $10 Heroine + the TGG Digital Artbook. This level also INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL UNLOCKED FREEBIES. Shipping: US add $23. EU add 20$. France add $10. Other countries, please see FAQ
Em no I do not think so
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Post by: keltikhoa
I pledged on this but have never pledged on a KS before. Im guessing i get to pick which minis i "bought" when its over?
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Post by: RoninXiC
Got a 154$ early bird which was the very last one remaining
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Post by: Yonan
keltikhoa wrote:I pledged on this but have never pledged on a KS before. Im guessing i get to pick which minis i "bought" when its over?
Yep. They'll send out a survey and you choose which ones, and can usually add more funds if necessary. Gotta love saving monies ; )
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Post by: Kroothawk
Yonan wrote:112,000 - 1000% funded within the hour.
"Second stretch goal, because we're optimistic ;-)"
Pssst ... 1000% is 120,000 $ and it is reached NOW!
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Post by: Yonan
i can duz math!
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Post by: Hulksmash
How their first update goes could set the tone. I'm eagerly awaiting it.
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Post by: keltikhoa
Raging Heroes wrote:WHAT'S HAPPENING IS CRAZY !!!!! WE'VE FUNDED IN 30 SECONDS AND WE ARE AT 100 000 $ AFTER LESS THAN AN HOUR!!!! WE CAN'T KEEP UP UNLOCKING THE STRECH GOALS, SO PLEASE SEE THE HEROINES, TROOPS, AND SUPPORT IMAGES TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE NOW, knowing that there is definitely more to come. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR AMAZING SUPPORT!!!!!!!!
I lol'd a bit
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Post by: decker_cky
Lieutenant and above get "Freebies" stretch goals. Captain and above get "gift" stretch goals. Took me a minute to figure it out too.
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Post by: keltikhoa
I am really interested to see the Mecha units
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keltikhoa wrote:Raging Heroes wrote:WHAT'S HAPPENING IS CRAZY !!!!! WE'VE FUNDED IN 30 SECONDS AND WE ARE AT 100 000 $ AFTER LESS THAN AN HOUR!!!! WE CAN'T KEEP UP UNLOCKING THE STRECH GOALS, SO PLEASE SEE THE HEROINES, TROOPS, AND SUPPORT IMAGES TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE NOW, knowing that there is definitely more to come. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR AMAZING SUPPORT!!!!!!!!
I lol'd a bit
Why do I now have an image of their entire office running around with arms flailing?
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Post by: RoninXiC
There are 50 new 156$ Early Birds!
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Post by: overtyrant
Lol it's actually nice to hear Americans complaining about P&P. You guys normally get it free and us international backers pick up the slack for you with the usual excuse of 'its included in the pledge'. Just suck it up for a change, I'm actually only paying $3.00 less then you yanks and france is part of the bleeding EU!
Anywho im in for the Iron Empire and surprisingly I won't be using them for 40k (shock and horror!) I will be using tbem as my Corporation troopers for Warpath.
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Post by: BrookM
At this rate my selection of minis might be unlocked already!
Just a bit sad that it might be until March next year that I'll have everything in hand.
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Post by: decker_cky
Ouze wrote:What is the difference between the $230 EB package and the $350 one?
Both appear to be completely identical.
They are. So is $367. They're typos and terrible deals that people pledged to.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Or meant to be early bird captains
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Post by: decker_cky
367 is not meant to be an early bird captain.
Anyways, RH is on it, they've been reducing those pledges as people drop them.
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Post by: Herzlos
I've dropped a Commander EB ($230), if someone wants to snap it up.
I went for a lieutenant instead
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Post by: Cryptek of Awesome
Raging Heroes wrote:Hi guys, we are a bit overwhelmed right now, trying to update everything.... We are still shaky from the shock of this amazing start.... my fingers are shaking, can't type properly on my keyboard. Once again, THANK YOU SO MUCH. We'll answer all your questions as soon as our heartbeat is back to normal....
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Post by: Hulksmash
They've unlocked the heavy trooper command groups. The concept art looks awesome.
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Post by: BrookM
They're well on top of things IMHO, I asked them a question and got a reply in less than five minutes.
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Post by: Kroothawk
So 1100% in the first hour, impressive!
BTW: Heresy! There is a male character hidden!
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Post by: Hulksmash
I'm glad to see the approach they took to the massive surge. Instead of trying to do updates they are just unlocking a ton of their blanks on the page and then can do a single massive update.
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Post by: Denkstrum
They haven't got an update in yet, but they have updated the graphics to represent all the stretch goals we blew through... lots of stuff unlocked already
and i don't want to wait for March next year much either, but they are going to make some of it available in Sept.....
We made sure that our sculpting planning was realistic. This means that you'll be able to have access to a first wave of production as early as September. And we have set up and used for the past several months a sculpting workflow that allows us to create many miniatures quickly without compromising their quality. This means that 80% of the sculpting process will be done by the end of the Kickstarter
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Post by: Yonan
Hulksmash wrote:They've unlocked the heavy trooper command groups. The concept art looks awesome.
Yeah I'm glad I upped from Major to Colonel, the concept art looks fantastic and all the renders we've seen look better than the concept art. I grabbed a general first off but thought "nah, that's a little much". Initial rush of pledges seems to have settled at ~$135K. A good first day!
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