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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 23:25:03
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Oberfeldwebel
New Hampshire USA
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I cant take credit for this but what he had to say about playing with toy soldiers is pretty cool
Toy Soldiers
“Hello, my name is Universal Head and I play with toy soldiers.”
When I was a kid I dabbled briefly with the usual toy soldier thing—you know, fighting battles in the sandpit, and later, making little flamethrowers out of tin foil and matches, that kind of thing—but I really wasn’t into it in a big way. The little men thing started, as so many things did, when I was about thirteen and discovered Dungeons & Dragons. Some ingenious person out there started making little 25mm high fantasy fighters and ‘orrible creatures out of pewter and tin, and I was hooked on the little buggers. I think from the moment I first saw them lined up on the shelves of the game shop they captured my imagination. Not only could you create little battles with them, but you could express your artistic urges and paint them, learning all kinds of tricky techniques to make those tiny antagonists look as real as possible.
A little English company called Games Workshop started making figures for their Warhammer game, and the rest is history. I wasn’t really that much into big armies facing across each other across a tabletop. Being a very meticulous painter, I never got enough figures painted, so I tended to prefer small-scale ‘skirmish’ level games like Necromunda and Advanced Space Crusade.
But for people like me, who still have the eyes of a twelve-year-old when it comes to these things, the sight of a 6’x4’ table covered with little armies running about through beautifully modelled terrain still fires the imagination. And finally, after all these years, this kind of hobby is possible without sacrificing all of my free time upon the altar of wargaming.
Thanks to a game called AT-43.
Purists will shudder at this point. Prepainted miniatures?! Surely not! Well yeah, it took me a while to get used to the idea. But the fact is, with my schoolboy days long, long behind me, I have no time these days to paint the scores of little figures that a tabletop wargame requires. Pre-painted miniatures can go straight onto the tabletop, ready for battle; they still look great from the distance you usually see them, and gone are the days of figures cluttering the dining room table in a half-painted state.
AT-43 is a sci-fi miniatures game by a French company called Rackham, and I’ve recently bought into it in a big way. The miniatures look great and are painted to a good standard (no doubt by assembly lines of Chinese workers; though I have discussed this subject with game publishers who tell me that this kind of thing is actually considered a good job and just a first step on the ladder for young workers). The game system is quick, fun and doesn’t involve remembering the equivalent of trigonometry tables to play. A good example: if you have a Medic in your unit, you can save a hit soldier by shouting out Medic!—possibly one of the greatest rules ever invented for a wargame.
But these days, there are more things available that make tabletop gaming quick and easy to get into. Games Workshop recently released a modular 6’x4’ plastic battleboard that, while outrageously priced, solves all the old problems of making and storing a gaming surface. It packs away into a 2’x2’ carry bag, and once it’s painted, looks fantastic. Add a few of their plastic woods and hills and you have all the terrain you’ll ever need. In the bad old days you either had to make modular wood and polystyrene sections, or string a ping-pong table to the roof with a pulley system (don’t laugh, a friend of mine did this).
So, after you’ve spent all this money—no doubt justifying it to your partner by pointing out that your hobby could be collecting vintage cars, and she should be grateful—your old school buddy who you’ve known for almost thirty years (gulp!) comes around one evening and you set up a game. You’re both on the wrong side of forty and playing with toy soldiers.
So what? You have a fantastic time. A few beers and a few game turns later and you’re laughing your head off, embellishing the tiny dramas that happen on the table in front of you, making whooshing and dakka-dakka noises as another unit of soldiers lets fire with their assault rifles, cheering as the battle robot is blasted into smithereens by a lucky laser shot, chucking handfuls of dice like high rollers in Vegas, both leaning over the table to see if your opponent pulled off the lucky numbers to blow your favourite unit away.
You may laugh, but it’s a damn sight better way to spend an evening than sitting in front of the television or plugging your cash into a one-armed bandit.
With luck, I’ll be playing games like this until I shuffle off this mortal coil. Quite probably, in full command of my mental facilities because I’ve kept my brain so active learning game rules, and certainly happier because I’ve held on to my childlike imagination and sense of wonder. Playing with toy soldiers is a wonderful thing. I highly recommend it.
If you liked this tell Headless hollow http://www.headlesshollow.com/archives/2009/02/toy_soldiers.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 21:56:37
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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I can see you'r logic behind that, i play a small therian army, but i won't lie i play 40k >.< but i like a game with my ther's here and there
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/05/18 21:57:03
I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 22:36:18
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
The darkest spot between galaxies, leading my armada.
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This is pretty cool, where do you order AT-43 stuff? I don't have a hobby shop anywhere around...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 23:01:12
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Adler Hobby, Southern New Hampshire.
www.adlerhobby.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 23:04:29
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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halo3uber wrote:This is pretty cool, where do you order AT-43 stuff? I don't have a hobby shop anywhere around...
I get mine from Miniature Market, 60% off or more atm.
Free shipping for americans, very trust worthy i have order at-43 stuff off them 3 times already
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/19 14:27:50
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Free shipping?
Not from Miniatures Market. They charge $5.95 for any order under $75.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/29 15:37:19
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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I’ve kept my brain so active learning game rules, and certainly happier because I’ve held on to my childlike imagination and sense of wonder. Playing with toy soldiers is a wonderful thing. I highly recommend it.
Thats so true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/02 14:58:45
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Is this the one you're referring to :(
http://www.minis-market.com/
Looks like they've closed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/02 15:06:25
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/02 15:50:28
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Thanks for the link!
Wow! I am loving the look of the Red Blok and that army box that's coming out this month! Very tempting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/12 03:41:59
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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ive been eyeing the red blok army box as well.
if everything is still crazy cheep... then buy into it now if you are half way interested.
I picked up a Red Blok and UNA army 2k points each for around 300... the store in our area had a "buy one get one free" (if you only bought one box, then it was 50% off... shhhhh dont tell anyone)
Linky... Yet another place to spend money at
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/12 06:25:13
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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AT-43 Always looked somewhat cool to me. I might start it thanks to this, I dunno yet.
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Some people play to win, some people play for fun. Me? I play to kill toy soldiers.
DR:90S++GMB++IPwh40k206#+D++A++/hWD350R+++T(S)DM+
WHFB, AoS, 40k, WM/H, Starship Troopers Miniatures, FoW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 02:55:07
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Oberfeldwebel
New Hampshire USA
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Cryonicleech wrote:AT-43 Always looked somewhat cool to me. I might start it thanks to this, I dunno yet.
Be sure to check out this friendly comparison
http://at-43.understairs.nl/rest/at-43for40kplayers.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 03:16:42
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Saint Anuman , any news of the next Army Boxes to be released? and any estimated date?
( still excited! but getting burnt out from waiting lo, was planning on ordering 1 red blok and 1 ( which ever other than Cogs )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 03:50:44
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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LunaHound wrote:Saint Anuman , any news of the next Army Boxes to be released? and any estimated date? ( still excited! but getting burnt out from waiting lo, was planning on ordering 1 red blok and 1 ( which ever other than Cogs ) Oni is October or November( iirc), along with the Wolfen and Griffon boxes for Confragadoodle. I should hopefully know more after I spend Gencon working for Rackham(I love being a Sentinel).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 05:03:02
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/13 17:19:24
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Oberfeldwebel
New Hampshire USA
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Try copy and pasting this
http://at-43.understairs.nl/index.php?cat=Miscellaneous&page=AT-43%20for%2040K%20Players Automatically Appended Next Post: Tips and suggestions for a good AT-43 game!
1) Play on a small board. We recently experimented with a 3′x3′ and 3’x 6’ board and it really seemed to improve the game. The combat was fast, immediate and deadly. It quickened the pace of the game and made it a lot more fun to play.
2) The rule books need work do to translations. There are a lot of rules questions in any game, but the AT-43 books could be organized better. We spend a lot of time flipping through pages figuring things out, looking up threads on message boards and, at times, deciding rules quesitons with a roll of the dice. It’s not bad enough to ruin the game, but hopefully in the future the editing of the books will be better.
3) Battlesuits need to be used carefully. Whether its UNA Steel Arms or Red Blok Kolossus units, low speed and not-so-heavy armor means these guys can get lit up if left out in the open. They pack serious firepower but are pretty fragile when it comes down to it. My suggestion is to leave your suits in reserve and deploy them as reinforcements. If you can drop them in halfway up the board, you can wreck some serious havoc.
4) Spend that LP. Leadership points are the currency of the game and unless you have some uber-secret plan, go ahead and spend those points. Most players have more than they need to pull off whatever tricks they have in their bag.
5) Going second is not a bad idea. In the words of one of our local players “you go first, I go second and shoot you. You go again, I go again and shoot you.” As with 40k, going second also allows you to take the last move and secure objectives, critical for winning a game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/14 17:24:08
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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How is #2 a tip or suggestion for a good game? Just curious...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 11:17:08
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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I think that one of the biggest favours a player can do for themselves would be to go to:
http://www.headlesshollow.com/downloads/games/AT43_v1.3.pdf
That would be better as Tip No. 2.
The design is far superior to the main rulebook. Universal Head can always be counted on for a quality product.
And its free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 15:33:30
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Oberfeldwebel
New Hampshire USA
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Strahd wrote:I think that one of the biggest favours a player can do for themselves would be to go to:
http://www.headlesshollow.com/downloads/games/AT43_v1.3.pdf
That would be better as Tip No. 2.
The design is far superior to the main rulebook. Universal Head can always be counted on for a quality product.
And its free.
That cheet/flow chart is on of my favorites out local Game hang out has copys on the gaming tables
No#2 is a simple "heads up" that the translations can be a bit off and knowing that while reading the text can be a helpfull foot note to keep in the back of your mind while playing and learning AT-43.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/15 15:39:48
Subject: Re:At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Fair enough. I'm all in favor of warning people about the rules in advance. Keep the expectations realistic and people may not have the same reaction I did when I started learning the game and wanted to set the rulebooks on fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/08 14:25:01
Subject: At-43 are toy soldiers and thats cool!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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still good info here!
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