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2015/09/11 21:37:10
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath -- Kickstarter page #1
Update #2
Sep 21 2015
Death From The Skies!
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With these two goals broken, we’re now able to improve the Warpath rulebooks with new art, background and a specialist section on using Warpath with 10mm scale sci-fi miniatures.
Also, we’ve funded Enforcer Lt. Roca and included this miniature free in the Enforcer Battlegroup and Operation: Heracles two player set. More will be revealed about Lt. Roca and Operation Heracles later this week.
For now, here are two more goals for you…
$65,000 UPGRADE! Plastic Warpath Counter Set
If we hit this goal, we will upgrade the card counters in pledges of Warfare ($50) and up to plastic, making them more durable. The counter set will include activation, objective markers, 3D suppression markers and more…
$100,000 Enforcer Accuser Interceptor plus BONUS! Pick a free hard plastic vehicle
The XSM-784 Accuser Interceptor is the embodiment of speed and power, making it the favourite air-intervention and assault support craft of the Enforcer corps. Capable of supersonic flight as well as hovering and VTOL, its multiple hardpoints mean weapons loadouts can be quickly tailored to match whatever threat the Accuser is being sent against. Heavy burst lasers are a favourite option although recent interventions against Plague and Veer-myn incursions have seen an increase in the equipment of air-to-ground missile systems.
If we hit this goal, we will produce the Enforcer Accuser Interceptor in hard plastic. This flying vehicle is equipped with twin Burst Lasers and a transport compartment.
Advanced Warfare UPGRADE Pick a free hard plastic vehicle
As part of a pledge of Advanced Warfare ($125), you can now pick a free hard plastic vehicle like the Enforcer Accuser Interceptor as part of your pledge!
The Enforcer Accuser Interceptor is also available to add-on to your pledge for $30.
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Phew!
The Plastic Warpath Counter Set is done and dusted, and included free in Warfare and up.
Next up – $100,000 Enforcer Accuser Interceptor plus BONUS! Pick a free hard plastic vehicle
The XSM-784 Accuser Interceptor is the embodiment of speed and power, making it the favourite air-intervention and assault support craft of the Enforcer corps. Capable of supersonic flight as well as hovering and VTOL, its multiple hardpoints mean weapons loadouts can be quickly tailored to match whatever threat the Accuser is being sent against. Heavy burst lasers are a favourite option although recent interventions against Plague and Veer-myn incursions have seen an increase in the equipment of air-to-ground missile systems.
If we hit this goal, we will produce the Enforcer Accuser Interceptor in hard plastic. This flying vehicle is equipped with twin Burst Lasers and a transport compartment.
Advanced Warfare UPGRADE Pick a free hard plastic vehicle
As part of a pledge of Advanced Warfare ($125), you can now pick a free hard plastic vehicle like the Enforcer Accuser Interceptor as part of your pledge!
The Enforcer Accuser Interceptor is also available to add-on to your pledge for $30.
Here's another other shot of the Enforcer Interceptor:
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Woooooosssssshhhhhh
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Stretch Goal Smashed!
The Accuser Interceptor is fully funded, a brand new hard plastic flyer for the Enforcers. Couple that with Enforcer Lt. Roca, that’s a lot of love for the boys in grey already.
With a pledge of Advanced Warfare, you now have the option to pick one $30 hard plastic vehicle for free. Along with all of the rulebooks and a choice of two player battle set or Battlegroup, that’s a lot of great value right there.
Alternatively you add the Enforcer Accuser Interceptor on for $30.
And there’s more to come!
Next up, we’ve got some reinforcements for the Forge Fathers to bulk up some of their infantry numbers, and some deadly new Veer-myn…
$110,000 BONUS! Steel Warrior/Stormrage Veteran Team
Forge Fathers are not numerous. By natural disposition and rock hard law, unions between a male and female are life long, and Forge Fathers have a long life. While offspring from a single couple may reach to a dozen those births are spread over centuries. Comparative to the size of Forge Father territory, their numbers have barely increased since the first forge star was manufactured and they began spreading from the galactic core. And while each individual Forge Father is a hard, muscular ball of single-mindedness, they are far from indestructible.
Each Forge Father is raised to hold the continuance of their race closer to their heart than anything else, and each must have a hand in assuring that continuation.
To serve among the Skjaldborg is the duty of every young Forge Father, and one they take seriously. Length of service lasts decades, and during that time the Warrior will learn every facet of warfare.
At the end of their term most members of the Skjaldborg return to normal life. They take with them the arms and training the envy of any professional army in the galaxy, and should such a crisis ever arise, the whole Forge Father population is ready to come down on their enemies like a hammer blow.
Reinforcements! If we hit this goal, we’ll boost the Forge Father Battlegroup and the Operation: Heracles starter set with a five-figure hard plastic Steel Warrior Team, including a unit leader.
This sprue will come with enough options to include Hailstom Autocannon, Dragonbreath Flamers, or build them as Stormrage Veterans with Magma Cannons or Mjolnir Missile Launchers.
$125,000 BONUS! Veer-myn Creepers Team
Creepers are the sneakiest members of a Veer-myn nest, the best of their race at finding secret, hidden ways and routes through whatever terrain they inhabit, and then vandalising whatever they find. Carrying cutting gear and packages of infectious materials and unstable explosives, Creepers can immobilise vehicles, disrupt communications gear, and spread disease amongst personnel. Occasionally a Creeper squad will reveal itself, taking advantage of the confusion their efforts have created to strike against an enemy with knives and pistols. More often than not though, they will simply creep back to their own lines or simply find another target to sabotage.
If we hit this goal, we’ll boost the Veer-myn Battlegroup with a five-figure set of Veer-myn Night-crawlers, with brand new weapon upgrades to build them as a Creeper Team and carry explosives.
This metal set includes additional heads, arms, backpacks and equipment to upgrade your figures.
You can also add on a set of 10 Veer-myn Creepers for $15.
Break this one, and we'll get started on the next vehicle
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Hammer Time
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Stretch Goal broken and the Enforcer Battlegroup gets a bonus Pathfinder team with D.O.G. Drone.
Time for something new we think…
$150,000 BONUS! Kickstarter Exclusive Forge Lord Ingulf Krestürsson and Padd
To the Forge Lords of the Star Realm, the value of the primordial metal believed to be on Triton is incalculable. But the first Lord to stake a claim to it did not do so for the promise of wealth. Lord Ingulf Krestürsson, otherwise known as ‘the Dragon that Consumes Worlds’ or just ‘the Dragon’, possesses a hatred of mankind as legendary as the martial strength of his clan.
The Krestürssons defended the borders of the Star Realm in numerous wars and battles with the nascent Corporation as it first ventured into the galaxy. Many members of the clan died in those early wars, including Ingulf’s father, Lord Maggnus Krestürsson, and his two younger brothers, Ivun and Bröno, killed on the world known as ‘Hellview’. To this day, Ingulf wears his beard in three long plaits one for each of his much lamented kin, honouring and perpetuating their memory. The primordial metal beneath Triton’s crust would be irresistible to any Forge Father lord, even after tithing a portion of it to the realm. But, for Ingulf, the real value of Triton is the chance to make war against the GCPS and avenge his father and brothers.
Find out more about Ingulf when we cover Operation: Heracles later in the week.
If we hit this goal, we will produce Forge Lord Ingulf Krestürsson, a new miniature exclusive to this Kickstarter.
We will include this exclusive variant of Ingulf and his pet free in the Operation: Heracles starter set and in the Forge Father Battlegroup. You can choose either of these sets as part of an Advanced Warfare ($125) pledge.
Sneak Peak: Sturnhammer Battle Tank
The Sturnhammer is assessed by Corporation Central Military analysts to be probably the best main battle tank currently employed amongst alien races. Carrying a Heavy Hailstorm Cannon turret as standard, the Sturnhammer’s intricately engineered target control system makes it capable of a rate of accurate fire at a range that is the envy of even Enforcer commanders. This also often makes a Sturnhammer a target of high priority in battle, but its armour is at least as technically advanced as its weaponry, shrugging off all but the most powerful and well placed incoming shots.
The Forge Father vehicle is up next!
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2015/09/11 21:50:33
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
I assume the flyer is a WIP? It looks good, but has a lot of flat surfaces to detail.
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2015/09/12 01:38:07
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
I'll probably be pledging to some degree. I'd like to throw stupid amounts of money into it but I'm not entirely sold on the rules they showed off. Get rid of the hub nonsense and I'll drop serious coin.
It would be sweet if they did a set of lists covering 40k armies that they don't have analogues for, like they're doing with KoW. I got Tau and Necrons needing a better set of rules to use them with...
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2015/09/12 02:19:48
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
Can they top the sweet Blaine on dino mini though? That fig is awesome!
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2015/09/12 06:21:40
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
I'm really curious what kinds of new armies we might see. I'd like to see more of the serious style Marauders rather than the patchwork early plastics/ GW style goofs.
Some Sphyr would be neat. Or just some plastic alien infantry of some sort.
Or more rats and their big toys. Like their tunneling machine they stole from Cobra Commander for getting under the Joe's headquarters.
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highlord tamburlaine wrote: Or more rats and their big toys. Like their tunneling machine they stole from Cobra Commander for getting under the Joe's headquarters.
Honestly, the #1 reason to back any kickstarter if it features that.
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2015/09/12 07:34:14
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
I'm getting more apprehensive about the rules. They are doing two sets of rules one based on the Beta set and another more focused on the squads without the hub nonsense. This is the worst outcome IMO as it means that there attention is split between the two sets of rules.
2015/09/12 09:51:03
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
they really need to make a final decision and either go with or abandon the hub idea (and accept that both choices will loose them backers)
having what is effectively 2 rule sets out in the wild is going to lead to confusion and annoyance (especially in the US market with their 'pick up games' culture)
but i'll be interested in what minis and smaller vehicals they come up with
2015/09/12 10:39:12
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
Well that's earlier than expected I was hoping it would be early next year. it'll be interesting to see how far this gets as Mantic's other big IP hopefully enough to get a few more plastic kits out, hoping for HIPS Rebs troops and Plague 3As (that are less large torso/hunchback). I'd like a way to get Valkyrs on their own rather than as part of a booster like now. HIPS Brokkrs are probably to much to hope for even if Ronnie is a massive dwarf fan the restic ones are good sculpts and are fine in PVC
2015/09/12 12:27:03
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
Ronnie wants mass battles so I don't think the hub will go away. The feedback was split about 2/3 to 1/3 in favour of the hub-based mechanic. It's my belief that that rule set would also be great for playing the game at 10mm and that they should go formthatbscale too as a mode of playing the game.
2015/09/12 12:27:21
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
Da Boss wrote: I'm mostly interested in the rules - could someone help me out and point me at (or briefly explain) what this "hub" thing is all about?
I'm hoping for a squad based game in 28mm rather than individual skirmish.
Basically you buy a unit in batches. Each of these batches has a "hub" that everything is measured from. The rest of the figures in a batch are irrelevant. You have to keep each hub in the unit within a certain distance of the other hubs in a unit and then arrange the rest of the models around the hubs. It's just a pain in the arse to be fiddling around like that when the aim of the game is to make streamlined mass battles a quick and easy thing to do. If they want a multibase game, make the whole bloody unit on a base, rather than this middle ground nonsense that just complicates things.
Sounds like they have an alternative in mind though. I hope it's more streamlined.
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2015/09/12 12:31:48
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
But if the pledge you go for includes lots of miniatures that are yet to be produced it will probably be about 9 months minimum before anything will be delivered to you.
Yet another mantic game my group will be hamfisting into 6mm!
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2015/09/12 14:35:02
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
overtyrant wrote: I'm getting more apprehensive about the rules. They are doing two sets of rules one based on the Beta set and another more focused on the squads without the hub nonsense. This is the worst outcome IMO as it means that there attention is split between the two sets of rules.
On the other hand, the hub idea feels so convoluted and impractical to me that it'd be enough for me to shrug and simply accept there's not going to be any proper large platoon 28mm scifi game on the market (afterlife is a very small niche,GoA has floundered so badly I'm assuming that it's DOA). If that's what they're going with I'll have a feeble go at promoting afterlife around here, but I'll just be painting up a decent DZC army to actually get platoon/company level games in.
I'm pretty sure I'm not exactly the only one who would simply drop out of the player pool entirely, either.
And keep in mind how much they want the 40k crowd crossover, so something that would keep folks away to this extent would be shooting themselves in the foot. Now it *is* Mantic so I'm a little weary when it comes to strategic choices like that but they simply can't go with just the small hard core that likes the hub mechanic to the exclusion of everyone who saw that... surprising... ruleset and just walked away without even voting in such a poll or participating in the discussion. (Keep in mind that a lot of potential players did just that: saw the hub-based ruleset and walked away. I'm convinced that that has resulted in a rather misleading and inaccurate poll result compared to the actual percentages of their target audience that favour or disfavour this mechanic strongly).
2015/09/12 14:43:34
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
I think the hub system could work well for 20 man squads and such, but it gets convoluted when you have 6 man squad made up of 3 hubs like the peacekeepers.
2015/09/12 15:08:25
Subject: [Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath
Actually the Guard Tanks aren't too bad for that definitely agree on more modern better designs however!
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2015/09/12 15:42:14
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter Imminent] Mantic Games - Warpath