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The biggest offender from the 360 for me is turning out to be the air intake on the "hood." They went and made it look like a dogs nose from the side, should be an easy enough piece to alter or leave off though. That and the pointless front end fins, I doubt those would do much and they look kind of out of place like they were added after the fact.

I don't think its bad at all though. Had this been a blood angel flier I bet the leap toward dog head wouldn't be a thing. Honestly if you look at the Castus AR it looks like a giant dog head too and I believe someone else pointed out that it looks like a luck dragon in another thread Yet it is considered a great model, probably because it is a vanilla craft making the connection much less natural.

 Brother Payne wrote:
I cease to be amazed at the GW design team. How the FETH does that thing fly?! I mean seriously.

Same way the Thunderhawk can fly. Through sheer defiance.
It's a little known fact that if you tell the laws of physics to piss off hard enough, and if you are bad ass enough, then the laws of aerodynamics simply cease to apply.
The Orks understand this well


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Vasarto wrote:
SPACE WOLVES DO NOT fething FLY.

I mean...omfg.

Then how to they travel to different words? Willpower?

By catapult.
Obviously.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Brother Payne wrote:
I cease to be amazed at the GW design team. How the FETH does that thing fly?! I mean seriously.

Same way the Thunderhawk can fly. Through sheer defiance.
It's a little known fact that if you tell the laws of physics to piss off hard enough, and if you are bad ass enough, then the laws of aerodynamics simply cease to apply.
The Orks understand this well

Or it throws itself at the ground and misses!

 Anpu42 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Brother Payne wrote:
I cease to be amazed at the GW design team. How the FETH does that thing fly?! I mean seriously.

Same way the Thunderhawk can fly. Through sheer defiance.
It's a little known fact that if you tell the laws of physics to piss off hard enough, and if you are bad ass enough, then the laws of aerodynamics simply cease to apply.
The Orks understand this well

Or it throws itself at the ground and misses!

Haha, I see what you did there

So more "confirmation" from natfka of what we already know/suspect:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/07/space-wolf-codex-and-bjorn-and-next.html

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Bjorn, New , SW unique Drednaught with Rampage and Furios Charge. Ap2 talons with shred.
And Space Wolves codex

 Anpu42 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Brother Payne wrote:
I cease to be amazed at the GW design team. How the FETH does that thing fly?! I mean seriously.

Same way the Thunderhawk can fly. Through sheer defiance.
It's a little known fact that if you tell the laws of physics to piss off hard enough, and if you are bad ass enough, then the laws of aerodynamics simply cease to apply.
The Orks understand this well

Or it throws itself at the ground and misses!

/slowclap for you both.


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 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So more "confirmation" from natfka of what we already know/suspect:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/07/space-wolf-codex-and-bjorn-and-next.html

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Bjorn, New , SW unique Drednaught with Rampage and Furios Charge. Ap2 talons with shred.
And Space Wolves codex

Also known as 'Natfka doubles down on his latest rumor...'

There's also the 'murderfang' will try and upload a picture of Bjorn


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 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So more "confirmation" from natfka of what we already know/suspect:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/07/space-wolf-codex-and-bjorn-and-next.html

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Bjorn, New , SW unique Drednaught with Rampage and Furios Charge. Ap2 talons with shred.
And Space Wolves codex

Well it looks like I'm one rumour ahead then, I heard from someone on here that it looks likely there is going to be a plastic tech priest. + other plastic characters most likely a rune priest too.

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Awesome, but I was kinda hoping he'd have two CCWs now instead of the useless AC.

The kit may come with other weapons, seeing as he can (currently) swap his AC for other weapons.

I frelling LOVE it. That, that I will definitely be buying.

About time Bjorn got a new model.

As for the fliers, I like them. They're no more ridiculous than any other Imperial flier, and I do like their "Flying brick of death" thing they've got going.

That's a fairly boring dreadnought.

ChrisB wrote:
There's also the 'murderfang' will try and upload a picture of Bjorn


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I....hmm. I'll have to wait for the sprue pics for that one; first glance it's got too much gaudy detail, but a lot of GW releases lately have looked like arse because of the OTT paintjobs, so it's possible it will look fantastic with a more restrained palette.

ChrisB wrote:
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Wow. Confirmation for Natfka.

A bit too much stuff on it for my tastes but that might just be the yellow light coming from the side making everything look yellow.

Murderfang...I was not aware Dethklok was part of the design team.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Murderfang...I was not aware Dethklok was part of the design team.

And in my book, you win this thread. I can't take Bjorn seriously after my buddies and I renamed our friend's Space Wolf army into "Space Bears", and every unit, rule, or weapon has the word "Bear" in it. Thus, Bjorn Bearhand. We imagine he would have half a live bear as one of his hands.

It looks more like Bjorns art, I like it.

I was reading the latest White Dwarf that detailed the Stormfang, and I read Nic Ho's justification for the design. It made me cringe. "They are afraid to fly." Okay look, I know they arn't fond of jump packs, and they aren't fond of teleportation, but you really expect me to believe that the Space Marine Chapter that calls itself the SKY WARRIORS are afraid to fly?

I still think that skyboat looks ugly, and I can't bring myself to get one. I'll run my Storm Raven as one if I have to, but that Stormfang looks literally like a brick with wings.

ChrisB wrote:
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That is a lot of bling. I wonder how much is optional and how much is sculpted; I'd probably give Bjorn the works and tone it down for any further Dreadnoughts. Good to see they haven't moved too far away from the original chassis either, (doesn't invalidate my custom dreads). I always wanted to pick Bjorn up but his old mold was simply too unrefined, (I would much prefer they redid Bjorn/Dreadnought, Ulric/Wolf Priest and Ragnar/Wolf Lord than say Logan, even if he is a little off scale in his TDA).

Overall I like it, although I pray to the Allfather he comes with a few ranged options. If the claw is indeed AP2, Rampage and Furious Charge then Bjorn is charging straight down the middle... you know, as long as he is survivable. What were the old options, Assault Cannon or Plasma Cannon?

WallaceMerrett wrote:

ChrisB wrote:
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That is a lot of bling. I wonder how much is optional and how much is sculpted; I'd probably give Bjorn the works and tone it down for any further Dreadnoughts. Good to see they haven't moved too far away from the original chassis either, (doesn't invalidate my custom dreads). I always wanted to pick Bjorn up but his old mold was simply too unrefined, (I would much prefer they redid Bjorn/Dreadnought, Ulric/Wolf Priest and Ragnar/Wolf Lord than say Logan, even if he is a little off scale in his TDA).

Overall I like it, although I pray to the Allfather he comes with a few ranged options. If the claw is indeed AP2, Rampage and Furious Charge then Bjorn is charging straight down the middle... you know, as long as he is survivable. What were the old options, Assault Cannon or Plasma Cannon?

AC, plasma Cannon, or LC. Like I said I really hope he has an option to take a second CCW. Bjorn is made for melee, not shooting crap, BS6 or not...

I'm disappointed they didn't go for the original SM dreadnaught for Bjorn (since he's so old it would be fitting),

or failing that a heresy era one if they really wanted to keep the same style as the modern stuff

I hope bjorn can still take his plasma cannon for FREE.

ITs a boring model but whatever. I will just keep using my Forgeworld venerable.

They should had given it a massive wolf like fur covering or a banner of some sort. Maybe do something fun with the legs.

edit..oh wait..I see the furs on the model now.

C'mon, guys - if there is a dreadnought that SHOULD be covered in bling and gaudy, it's Bjorn - the oldest living Space Marine. When the mark of service to the Emperor is a carpet tack in your forehead for a mere hundred years, and Bjorn has served over 10,000...damn right he should have gold wolves and stuff everywhere.

I'm not into SW but I like the model.

Yeah a bit disappointing. Just a regular Dread with too much bling and an oversized claw. They didn't even do the claw like it is on the cover of Battle of the Fang which would have looked cooler.

The Forge World SW Dread looks a million times better.

I don't like it, but then I hate the standard dread chassis after the Contemptor came out.

I kinda dig Bjorn. He's got the regality he deserves.

It's fluff accurate. I guess hoping they retconned him into a different chassis isn't unreasonable, but they have a lot of background for him being in that chassis.

 Bulldogging wrote:
It's fluff accurate. I guess hoping they retconned him into a different chassis isn't unreasonable, but they have a lot of background for him being in that chassis.

When is that chassis from? I thought Bjorn himself was fluff inaccurate because they retconned in different chassis for earlier dreads and since Bjorn is so old he'd be on one of the older chassis. But since Bjorn came out in 2nd before the older chassis were introduced, he got stuck with the standard dread pattern (the Bjorn model is one of the oldest still available).

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Bulldogging wrote:
It's fluff accurate. I guess hoping they retconned him into a different chassis isn't unreasonable, but they have a lot of background for him being in that chassis.

When is that chassis from? I thought Bjorn himself was fluff inaccurate because they retconned in different chassis for earlier dreads and since Bjorn is so old he'd be on one of the older chassis. But since Bjorn came out in 2nd before the older chassis were introduced, he got stuck with the standard dread pattern (the Bjorn model is one of the oldest still available).

It's a weird progression, honestly. This is the "original" dreadnought chassis right here:



Obviously, Bjorn didn't end up in one of those old things, he ended up in the "current" dreadnought iteration. Or at least, the design that was "current' when Bjorn was interred:



Then Forge World was like "nah bros, like, during 30k the space marines used these dreadnoughts!"


I actually asked the question of why Bjorn didn't end up in one, and the answer was basically "those frames were already 'old' when Bjorn needed to be interred, and they didn't make them anymore", which of course makes no sense as that would mean any currently run contemptor dreads would have space marines older than Bjorn who fought along side the Emperor.