Blood Angels Thread V.3

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**Ostrakon**

cygnnus wrote:
Well, that and Sanguinius suffered for Horus' sins and so should you!

NEVER FORGET 014.M31

**bhsman**

Ostrakon wrote:You mean sadist.

Quiet you.

cygnnus wrote:

To be honest, because I had a crappy cell phone camera handy, not a real one. That and the fact that I'm not 100% sure it was kosher to be taking pix. No one said I couldn't, but I didn't want to really press it... I figured with all the wrangling over the codex, proof that it's out there would help address some of the questions about "did it happen"?

Well, that and Sanguinius suffered for Horus' sins and so should you!

I'm sure pix of the sprues will make it out soon enough... They are loverly!

Vale,

JohnS

Fair enough, it just feels like everyone who's seen them describes them in such barely-contained passion that I fear for the cleanliness of their pants.

**blood angel**

Holy crap, it can carry a dread AND troops.

Kinda seems like a no brainer to take a few.

So a dread deploying from the thing that moves 12 inches can assault?

So a dread's base is 3 inches across? 12 + 2.9999ect + 3 + 6 = 23.9999 inch charging dread screened even if you don't get the first turn by scouting baals?

This is in addition to the 6 jump pack dudes pouring out for 22 inches.

**Manimal**

Anyone know what options the assault marines have?

Or if the death company can score?

**Death By Monkeys**

Hulksmash or cygnnus - Any idea how many inferno pistols or hand flamers Assault Squads can arm with?

**bhsman**

Manimal wrote:Anyone know what options the assault marines have?

Or if the death company can score?

Death Company can never count as scoring, according to Capt. Blood from Warseer.

**FoxPhoenix135**

That's too bad about the DC scoring, but makes more sense fluff-wise. Also, it helps in Dawn of War deployment... you can put them down first, and benefit from the cover of night for the first turn!

**Scarella**

Gornall wrote:
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:Well, I assume they are fast with the Baal Overcharged Engines rule, which means they can stall out.

Maybe that's what he meant. Dunno, though. I'm still somewhat dubious of the "there's no art" claim too.

To all the naysayers.... told yah so

**Gornall**

You got me. ::shrug::

**Hulksmash**

Death By Monkeys wrote:Hulksmash or cygnnus - Any idea how many inferno pistols or hand flamers Assault Squads can arm with?

I believe it's 2. They count as special weapons. Though it could be 3 if the sergeants can have them. Didn't fully check but did see the option for them. Inferno Pistol is the same as the plasma pistols. Melta's are a termagaunt cheaper.

**warboss**

does the death co count as a force org troops slot or are they outside the normal force org? are they mandatory? i'm going to have trouble fitting all those troops choices in only 6 slots if they're in there too!

**Asrodrig**

**Mike Leon**

Nice work Asrodrig.

Does anybody know what kind of options these guys (sanguinary guard) have?

Is there still a separate honor guard and what kind of options do they have?

Is it true Dante still has a crap STR 4 weapon?

**bhsman**

Dat axe...

**Scarella**

Mike Leon wrote:Nice work Asrodrig.

Does anybody know what kind of options these guys (sanguinary guard) have?

Is there still a separate honor guard and what kind of options do they have?

Is it true Dante still has a crap STR 4 weapon?

Sang guard have...

2+ Armor saves, Descent of Angels
Glaives Encarmine = Master-crafted power swords
Assault bolters = Range 12' Str 4 Ap4 Assault 2

Deathmasks - 5 termagants for the whole squad
Every model can replace bolters with either Infernus Pistols or Plasma Pistols - 2 termagants each
May carry Chapter Banner...
Upgrade to powerfist... 2 termagants

You can only have max 5 in the squad which is worth 40 basic termagants.

**bhsman**

5 models maximum? Ugh.

EDIT: Pretty much means you'll have to get them a Lander to ride around in. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

**Scarella**

Gornall wrote:You got me. ::shrug::

Hee hee no harm done, doubt is a healthy sign of a rational mind

Enjoy the news... fun that the floodgates are now open... I was going to take pics, but didn't want the staff or myself to get in trouble it was a GW store anyways...

lots of pics incoming from guys at FLGS... since they can do pretty much what they want with the black book contents

cheers all

**FoxPhoenix135**

bhsman wrote:5 models maximum? Ugh.

EDIT: Pretty much means you'll have to get them a Lander to ride around in. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

If razorbacks are fast, that wouldn't be a bad option either.

**Manimal**

Jump troops can't go into transports usually.

The Lander looks to have an exception.

**bhsman**

Manimal wrote:Jump troops can't go into transports usually.

The Lander looks to have an exception.

Considering there are rules involving Jump Infantry assaulting out of it, I would certainly hope so.

**FoxPhoenix135**

So they are automatically jump infantry? You don't buy jump packs? Makes sense, but just for clarification I had to ask.

**blood angel**

230 pnts for 5 dudes w/ a pair of melta pistols and a power fist is a lot. They will fit pretty snug in the lander and backed up by a furioso dread they may not be so bad.

Sprue looks awesome though.

WTB space wings for all my assault troops

**H.B.M.C.**

Bloodstrike missiles?

Really? Bloodstrike?

**Neconilis**

blood angel wrote:230 pnts for 5 dudes w/ a pair of melta pistols and a power fist is a lot. They will fit pretty snug in the lander and backed up by a furioso dread they may not be so bad.

Sprue looks awesome though.

WTB space wings for all my assault troops

Have to wait and see all the rules of course, but 5 man squads, especially assault squads, well they tend to have short & miserable lives.

**FoxPhoenix135**

2+ saves will help justify that cost, and having 2+ save jump infantry is pretty new. That, and all the extra little gubbins will help with that cost. I, for one, definitely want one of these sprues at least for the converting opportunity they provide.

**blood angel**

Completely agree, which is why i see those sprues getting canabalized for other units in the BA army and not actually fielded as they are intended.

I reserve the right to be completely wrong though.

If they can't survive an orc mob or a squad of zerks then they will be useless. One powerfist cripples the squad. Only reason I think that combining them with a dread assault from the lander might improve their usefulness since the opponent might have to decide to allocate the pk/pf to the dread.

**bhsman**

blood angel wrote:230 pnts for 5 dudes w/ a pair of melta pistols and a power fist is a lot. They will fit pretty snug in the lander and backed up by a furioso dread they may not be so bad.

Sprue looks awesome though.

WTB space wings for all my assault troops

Why not go with the Lander instead? Move 24" get out and assault, and bring the Furioso along in one tidy little package.

VVV My post was only 30 seconds after you made yours, so perhaps we were typing at the same time?

**blood angel**

that's what i said!

**Scarella**

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:So they are automatically jump infantry? You don't buy jump packs? Makes sense, but just for clarification I had to ask.

Yup they come with the jump packs and the Descent of Angels rule...

As for the over-use of the word Blood, yeah it's everywhere in the Codex... hand Matt Ward a healthy glass of Cranberry Juice

**mrsako**

I think the blurred page did say something about a STR4 hit to rear armor to the Dread (i.e. don't roll a 6) if something something something...

Anyway... yes, a lander carrying a Furioso is exactly what we need... I can imagine a big maching dropping down from the sky and running into the enemy, clawing and destroying everything in front of it, and a squad coming out from the back.

Now we need more pics. :(