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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 15:14:41
Subject: Khorne CSM/Daemon codex inbound
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Azreal13 wrote:I'd much rather they used the likes of Cenobites from Hellraiser or basically anything that comes out of Guillermo Del Toro's head as design touchstones than baps everywhere, but I guess it's debatable if that's more or less controversial than nipples.
Taken allready by Dark Eldar. How about some sort of horrible Bugmonsters? Oh wait, Tyranids. Cyborgs or demonic machines? Mechanicum (confirmed) and lots of CSM stuff has you covered.
You see? It's not that we actively need a boob-toting faction, it's just that most of the usual tropes are covered by other armies. Reinventing Slaanesh is a really difficult tast that'll hardly be solved without tons of research (or some geek of say siberian mythology wandering in and giving the perfect solution, but how often does that happen?).
And again, in a setting that consists of equal parts cruelty and bruatity, some cleavage is the least of the "horrible" things, so I wouldn't mind the demons going over the top here. Reduces the chances for sororitas ending up in power bikinis.
Also, whose bright idea was it that (retar ded) is such a nasty word that it has to be censored? Seriously?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 15:19:44
Subject: Khorne CSM/Daemon codex inbound
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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pretre wrote: ClockworkZion wrote: pretre wrote:Looks like Steve the Warboss is wrong again...
Chaos Space Marine Rumors - Feb 2015
via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
-New Khorne Berzerker Box FALSE
-Khorne Berzerker on Moloch Box FALSE
-Chaos Lord of Khorne Clam Pack FALSE
Did he say when those models where going to drop? There has been speculation of possible model releases at a later date (sometime after Ad Mech).
Nope, he said they were part of the Khorne release. I'd be more than happy to update it if they come out in the future.
Fair enough. I was just curious because this is a release I haven't been tracking that closely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:05:12
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Fair enough. I also put paid to the silly Long War rumors from 2014 that were also false.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:13:44
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I wonder what this does for Allies levels, since CSM and Daemons have different matrices. Will we have to measure on a unit-by-unit basis for One Eye Open? Or will it have its own allies matrix?
It'd be interesting to see what this means for the future of CSM and Daemons. There was already talks of CSM getting a new book this year... maybe the Codex gets stripped down to something simple, just the basic units, and you're expected to pick up a "Cult Book" for the rest. I mean, that would suck for the wallets, but it would be interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:14:56
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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I imagine it'll have a new matrix.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:46:59
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Wing Commander
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For a Slaanesh theme, what about self-mutilation? It'd a big thing in the art; surgical alteration and some such, fits into the pain into pleasure theme that's often used.
You don't need to use boobs for Slaanesh all the time.
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Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:48:12
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Really?
I guess if they actully allow daemons and marines to join in units (unlikely) they need a new matrix;
otherwise you just look at unit by unit how they act around allies, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:51:58
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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MajorStoffer wrote:For a Slaanesh theme, what about self-mutilation? It'd a big thing in the art; surgical alteration and some such, fits into the pain into pleasure theme that's often used.
You don't need to use boobs for Slaanesh all the time.
I was about to write something similar - conceptually Dark Eldar do stuff to other people, whereas Slaaneshi devotees do it to themselves, DE do it to stay alive, Slaaneshi devotees do it because it feels good (apparently.)
There's enough wriggle room to represent the two things very differently, despite the superficial similarities.
But!
We are debating Slaanesh in a thread about a Khorne themed release, so we are somewhat OT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:54:31
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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MajorStoffer wrote:For a Slaanesh theme, what about self-mutilation? It'd a big thing in the art; surgical alteration and some such, fits into the pain into pleasure theme that's often used.
You don't need to use boobs for Slaanesh all the time.
I kind of want the Heresy era EC style Slaanesh. That sleek regal purple, with clean white and gold just seems like a good representation.
But maybe it's just me.
EDIT: Of course the EC were into body modification and if you read the Kharn story the EC in it has scars from a multitude of carefully made cuts all over his body as well as the ability to peel his face back, splay his jawbone open like the Predator and unleash a sonic attack.
So yeah, you can mix that in there too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 16:58:41
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Not just you, I'm working on a CSM 40K force right now using that colour scheme.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:05:11
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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MajorStoffer wrote:For a Slaanesh theme, what about self-mutilation? It'd a big thing in the art; surgical alteration and some such, fits into the pain into pleasure theme that's often used.
You don't need to use boobs for Slaanesh all the time.
Or just go with the "sound" theme they already got going.
Daemonettes look like some mytological horror that lure men to their death with weird alluring singing, and the lobster claws tie them well to the
nautical theme of such horrors in actual mythology -and at the same time incorporate the main theme of classic daemonettes.
No need to change alot here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:33:58
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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I hold the white dwarf in my hands. Theres a lot of information about Deamonkin in it :-)
Blood for the Blood God Rule
For every Unit that is killed enemy or friend you gain a Blood point for it.
You can spend your points once a turn to summon some daemons or give some cool abilities to your guys(fnp is mentioned).
For 8 Points you will get a Bloodthirster for free.
Units
Nearly every CSM unit is metioned except obliterators and psi-guys.
Every khorne daemon is in there.
They are talking about different formations with different skills.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:35:36
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Warboss85 wrote:I hold the white dwarf in my hands. Theres a lot of information about Deamonkin in it :-)
Take pics? Post details?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:42:26
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sounds like people are going to lean towards MSU with this dex. Lots of cheap cultists filling up troop slots to run forward and get killed to gather up points. If the enemy doesn't kill the cheap units, then the cheap units cap points and such. If they do, they'll find a free bloodthirster in their face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:49:16
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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That sounds cool. Odd they'd add in point tallies after streamlining a similar mechanic in Dark Eldar.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:53:09
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Here are the new Bloodthirster profiles for 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:53:59
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Warboss85 wrote:I hold the white dwarf in my hands. Theres a lot of information about Deamonkin in it :-)
Blood for the Blood God Rule
For every Unit that is killed enemy or friend you gain a Blood point for it.
You can spend your points once a turn to summon some daemons or give some cool abilities to your guys( fnp is mentioned).
For 8 Points you will get a Bloodthirster for free.
Units
Nearly every CSM unit is metioned except obliterators and psi-guys.
Every khorne daemon is in there.
They are talking about different formations with different skills.
Hmmm
It's highly unlikely, but what would happen if instead of having that big CSM update they were talking about this year, there were just 4 CSM books, each based on different Cults (the way Loyalists have Space Wolves/Blood Angels/Dark Angels)? If every model aside from "Not Khorne-y" guys are in there, it could be a possibility. Heck, they could roll Daemons into it too.
Of course, people would be pissed over the prospect of having to buy up to 4 books to play what they have now, but we've sorta already seen that with Grey Knights becoming GK + Assassins + Inquisition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:54:24
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Can't see how the vaurious features of Slaanesh in general already being present in other armies matters at all. So what?
And so much for the strenght D 'thirster weapon and the rules coming from a WD being salty that I talked about earlier. It's right there in that picture. Sometimes you should just have some faith.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 17:59:21
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Yes is S D but with initiative 1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:01:36
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Indeed. Irrelevant to the point however. Thanks for the pictures Warboss85.
Blood for the Blood God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:02:16
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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You might want to rehost them somewhere else...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:03:08
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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RunicFIN wrote:Can't see how the vaurious features of Slaanesh in general already being present in other armies matters at all. So what?
I agree. Slaanesh would be insect-appendices (Nids or no-nids) combined with some Dark-Eldarly stuff and general (non-boob) female body-shapes, all put into a giant H.R. Giger blender, along with some Fulgrim Pink paint.
No more overlap than Thousand Sons and Necrons with their Egypt-schtick, and probably less in the specific combination.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:05:26
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:05:49
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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The rule right below it that says it strikes at Init 1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:06:57
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks a lot, Warboss! Very much appreciated
I read last night that these datasheets are actually for the Chaos Daemons book. The ones in the Khorne Daemonkin Codex could differ. Does it say anything about that in the White Dwarf?
Thanks again for taking the time to chime in
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:07:30
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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pretre wrote:The rule right below it that says it strikes at Init 1.
Fair enough. I was asking because I don't read German.
I was going to rehost the images but I wasn't fast enough in trying save them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:08:04
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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This looks to be pretty sweet. When I got into 40k, I wanted to make a fully Khorne army, and I think this is the excuse I need to get started. I just need to finish up my current GK army I'm working on, and its on to this. I don't even care if the rules suck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:09:20
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Warhams-77 wrote:Thanks a lot, Warboss! Very much appreciated
I read last night that these datasheets are actually for the Chaos Daemons book. The ones in the Khorne Daemonkin Codex could differ. Does it say anything about that in the White Dwarf?
Thanks again for taking the time to chime in
I'd like to know this also so I may prematurely rejoice about the fact I can now utterly decimate an Imperial Knight with ease.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:11:27
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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ClockworkZion wrote: pretre wrote:The rule right below it that says it strikes at Init 1.
Fair enough. I was asking because I don't read German.
I was going to rehost the images but I wasn't fast enough in trying save them.
Check your cache.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/18 18:11:31
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin (Pre-order 21/03/2015)
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Warhams-77 wrote:Thanks a lot, Warboss! Very much appreciated
I read last night that these datasheets are actually for the Chaos Daemons book. The ones in the Khorne Daemonkin Codex could differ. Does it say anything about that in the White Dwarf?
Thanks again for taking the time to chime in
Just that this 3 profiles are only for Chaos Daemons nothing else. So can be different for Daemonkin
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