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Alright, well that clears it up a bit. Cheers.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That sounds very odd....

I could understand some pre-orders being delayed and some going out on time

but none going out on time sounds like it's all down to CB not sending them anything (on time)

They are rightly and fairly trying to ensure that retailers and distros get them at the same time. If they sent some out then it would be a bit unfair to all the other sellers out there. Though its been mentioned a few times how incredible the demand has been for Icestorm. It is at least 10 times the volume of the Paradiso launch for us, a book once set out etc and printed is an easy product relatively to get to market. Imagine when you have a large number of components, many of which you don't manufacture yourself and you all of a sudden need a massive increase in numbers. That is alongside your day to day activities etc. CB have handled this very well for our perspective.

No conspiracy requiring the ominous.... to make a point

I know for an absolute certainty we will have some stock for the Icestorm event we have on next weekend though.

Correct me if i'm wrong but the only thing different between a Cameronian and a Dog Warrior is that the Cameronian is already in dog form and does not change. Therefore you can buy the new set to work for both.

Never thought I'd be so glad about going direct I've had O:I direct from CB since last friday, only went through them for the promotional 'triple deal'. Shame about the delay to retailers but at least there was discount involved.

Spot something new. Gentlmen, let the game begin!

My word is that two bags she's carrying, what on earth are all these Aleph carrying around that they can't just 'install'.

Well that's the Dactyl spotted.

and new N3 template

 Sangarn wrote:
and new N3 template

It is 125mm diameter too, so larger than CD sized template currently used (120mm).

rich1231 wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That sounds very odd....

I could understand some pre-orders being delayed and some going out on time

but none going out on time sounds like it's all down to CB not sending them anything (on time)

They are rightly and fairly trying to ensure that retailers and distros get them at the same time. If they sent some out then it would be a bit unfair to all the other sellers out there. Though its been mentioned a few times how incredible the demand has been for Icestorm. It is at least 10 times the volume of the Paradiso launch for us, a book once set out etc and printed is an easy product relatively to get to market. Imagine when you have a large number of components, many of which you don't manufacture yourself and you all of a sudden need a massive increase in numbers. That is alongside your day to day activities etc. CB have handled this very well for our perspective.

No conspiracy requiring the ominous.... to make a point

I know for an absolute certainty we will have some stock for the Icestorm event we have on next weekend though.

Rich, any way we could get some numbers about the amount of pre-orders from you? Or is that business confidential?

 Space Ranger wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but the only thing different between a Cameronian and a Dog Warrior is that the Cameronian is already in dog form and does not change. Therefore you can buy the new set to work for both.

I don't know, I'm still new to Infinity. Can anyone else say?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Well that's the Dactyl spotted.

what exactly is that again?



oh right... its whatever this biddy is

 Red Harvest wrote:
Here is the announcement on the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/CorvusBelli/posts/10152442637458842, or to save you the trouble,

Corvus Belli wrote:Due to the great success of the pre-purchase of Operation:Icestorm, and with the intention that it may arrive on time for all you, August releases "Yojimbo" and "Kotail" are delayed and launched together with the news of September. Sorry for the inconvenience.

We will then see these not in September, but in October :( along with the Fusiliers and the rest.

Thanks Red Harvest, I'll just get them in October, then

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Well that's the Dactyl spotted.

what exactly is that again?



oh right... its whatever this biddy is

So, what you're saying is I should probably buy a Dactyl at some point, then?

I think the word is that she's a light on points doctor or engineer, available to Steel Phalanx.

D-charges -> engineer; most probably
we have already the doctor

Heres hoping we'll get some real news this week.

I'm still dying to hear how hacking will work in N3.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Heres hoping we'll get some real news this week.

I'm still dying to hear how hacking will work in N3.

I hear it's a phone/tablet app minigame.

I assume you're joking, but you know what? That actually sounds like it would be a really fun, if not easy to implement, idea!

 Paradigm wrote:
I assume you're joking, but you know what? That actually sounds like it would be a really fun, if not easy to implement, idea!

Hahah, I was....but you're right.

It could actually be really, really neat!

Do Beasts of War have an 'upcoming' schedule listed anywhere? I think hacking is being looked at in detail in a 2nd 'Infinity Week' sometime soon.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Heres hoping we'll get some real news this week.

I'm still dying to hear how hacking will work in N3.

It'll probably be similar to the Martial Arts system that was mentioned in the videos.



Your hacker will choose a level and then the opponent will choose a level (both up to maximum for the hacker) with no one level being strictly better than others. Then you roll off and such. However, the new Hacking system will probably be slightly more complex considering that there aren't that many Hacker-vs-Hacker encounters in the game anyways. There may be separate 'programs' or modes and such you choose that'll give you BTS Piercing, higher Hacking "burst", etc.

Reminds me slightly of the D&D 3.0 Psychic Battle rules. Considering Hacking is Infinity's "magic" system, in a way, it's very fitting.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I assume you're joking, but you know what? That actually sounds like it would be a really fun, if not easy to implement, idea!

Hahah, I was....but you're right.

It could actually be really, really neat!

Next up: the Infinity/Shadorwun Crossover with app hacking support!

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Heres hoping we'll get some real news this week.

I'm still dying to hear how hacking will work in N3.

It'll probably be similar to the Martial Arts system that was mentioned in the videos.

Spoiler:

Your hacker will choose a level and then the opponent will choose a level (both up to maximum for the hacker) with no one level being strictly better than others. Then you roll off and such. However, the new Hacking system will probably be slightly more complex considering that there aren't that many Hacker-vs-Hacker encounters in the game anyways. There may be separate 'programs' or modes and such you choose that'll give you BTS Piercing, higher Hacking "burst", etc.

Reminds me slightly of the D&D 3.0 Psychic Battle rules. Considering Hacking is Infinity's "magic" system, in a way, it's very fitting.

That sounds extremely cool, waiting to see how that one is going to turn out.

Should make hackers a more popular option anyway with everyone trying to get them to hack each other, just for a chance to use that set-up..

The problem with Hackers is that Ariadna will always laugh at them.

The whole problem is that Technology (HIs, Remotes, TAGs...) requires Hackers, and at the same time Hackers are the extra vulnerability to technology.

Ariadna has no technology, therefore, they have less vulnerabilities.

That is a problem. Ariadna should cry for not having access to technology instead of being stronger for not having it.

Hackers should be able to perform attacks that are not only against Remotes, HIs & TAGs, they should be able to attack all objectives. Hackers should add more to the game.

I'm agree with the idea of Hackers being the Wizards in INFINITY. It works.

You can try to hack a stone if you want, but it'll probably smash your head anyway.

I think his point was more that instead of hacking the stone being effective, the people throwing the stone should be upset they can't hack that terminal over there.

Rather than making hacking work against illogical targets, make it a lot better against logical targets, be they enemies or objectives.

The problem is how "lower technological factions" are given ample of tools to compensate and no real drawback, if the complaint was not having MSV 2 to ignore TO and ODD penalty, here comes new and improved MSV 1. We're not all that lucky to get viral, 6-4 with super jump and so on. Having a "technological advanced model" should give you something, other than worrying on yet another way how it'll be shut down. Most of the complaints how "useless" are currently hackers come from Nomad players, who coincidentally have only the best hackers in the game.

 Knight wrote:
The problem is how "lower technological factions" are given ample of tools to compensate and no real drawback, if the complaint was not having MSV 2 to ignore TO and ODD penalty, here comes new and improved MSV 1. We're not all that lucky to get viral, 6-4 with super jump and so on. Having a "technological advanced model" should give you something, other than worrying on yet another way how it'll be shut down. Most of the complaints how "useless" are currently hackers come from Nomad players, who coincidentally have only the best hackers in the game.

I don't worry about not having all the toys. I like that there are different factions. If I want to play a high-tech army it's a good thing that I can play Nomads if I want to. I'd rather have Ariadna. I don't have TO, DDO, Nanoscreens, and I don't care about the visors. The only miniature with MSV1 that I plan to play is Uxía, and the visor is not the reason. Actually, her more useful profile doesn't have it. Same for the Veteran Kazak with T2 rifle and Visor X. I choose him for the rifle, not the visor. I tend to forget that equipment.

Dark Eldar are my favourite army in 40k. I don't give a gak about not having 3+ armywide saves, high armour values, or not having an autowin army list. There is supposed to be an equilibrium among the different elements, and I think it exists.

 BobbaFett wrote:
Hackers should be able to perform attacks that are not only against Remotes, HIs & TAGs, they should be able to attack all objectives. Hackers should add more to the game.

Given how much the rumours have Hacking changing, I wouldn't be surprised to see some Hacking skills be useable against anyone.

While I certainly appreciate having Veteran Kazaks with 4-4 MOV, the reasoning always seemed backwards to me. Now that the other HI are getting bumped up to 4-4 in N3 (I guess some were 4-4 already), I wonder if Ariadna HI profiles will be changing, for better or for worse..