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godardc wrote:Eventually, I think this vehicle looks like a toy.
Caederes wrote:
Tyranid607 wrote: Get access to the dex
Can't take photo but can give you answer as you wish
You're online but you're not replying. Where are you? We eagerly await your presence :( Thanks in advance for any questions you can answer!
My questions were as follows; what does the Iconoward (spelling?) do? Are Acolyte Hybrids still Fearless? Do Neophyte Hybrids actually get Heavy Weapon teams and do all Neophyte Hybrids have the same profile? What are the new psychic powers like? Again, thank you.
Do we have a stalker here? Oh my just because he says "online" doesn't mean he can really type. You know how hard it is to type out on a cell phone? Easier to read than to reply to so many question.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Mymearan wrote: How exactly does the "go into ongoing reserves then pop up anywhere" rule work? How do you get access to it? Which units can use it?
Points cost and stats for the Goliath and its weapons?
How are GSC Genestealers different from Tyranid ones?
What are their Psychic Powers?
Any good formations?
Not going to answer how and why
Appendix/
Cult ambush
Instead of arriving from reserves normally, unit can roll the ambush table D6 1/ your own table edge
2/ roll d6 1-2 left 3-4 right 5-6 you choose
3/ anywhere more 9" from enemy or 6" from enemy which have no los 4/ 6"
5/ 6" + bouns shooting or run
6/ 3" + charge on the turn arrive
Return the Shadows
Instead of moving in movement phase, unit have this rule and not within 6" of enemy models can be removed from battlefield and placed into ongoing reserve. Unit can't use this rule arrive from reserve or ongoing reserve and can't do so when in vehicle
Genestealer/aberrants/Metamorphs/neophyte/acolyte/ and all HQ
godardc wrote:Eventually, I think this vehicle looks like a toy.
Caederes wrote:
Tyranid607 wrote: Get access to the dex
Can't take photo but can give you answer as you wish
You're online but you're not replying. Where are you? We eagerly await your presence :( Thanks in advance for any questions you can answer!
My questions were as follows; what does the Iconoward (spelling?) do? Are Acolyte Hybrids still Fearless? Do Neophyte Hybrids actually get Heavy Weapon teams and do all Neophyte Hybrids have the same profile? What are the new psychic powers like? Again, thank you.
Do we have a stalker here? Oh my just because he says "online" doesn't mean he can really type. You know how hard it is to type out on a cell phone? Easier to read than to reply to so many question.
Mymearan wrote: How exactly does the "go into ongoing reserves then pop up anywhere" rule work? How do you get access to it? Which units can use it?
Points cost and stats for the Goliath and its weapons?
How are GSC Genestealers different from Tyranid ones?
What are their Psychic Powers?
Any good formations?
Not going to answer how and why
Appendix/
Cult ambush
Instead of arriving from reserves normally, unit can roll the ambush table D6 1/ your own table edge
2/ roll d6 1-2 left 3-4 right 5-6 you choose
3/ anywhere more 9" from enemy or 6" from enemy which have no los 4/ 6"
5/ 6" + bouns shooting or run
6/ 3" + charge on the turn arrive
Return the Shadows
Instead of moving in movement phase, unit have this rule and not within 6" of enemy models can be removed from battlefield and placed into ongoing reserve. Unit can't use this rule arrive from reserve or ongoing reserve and can't do so when in vehicle
Genestealer/aberrants/Metamorphs/neophyte/acolyte/ and all HQ
Thank you for posting. Greatly appreciated taking your time doing so.
*edit*
I would like to know, is it possible to do an all Stealer army? If so how can it be done? Any special rules?
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Motograter wrote: The gs cult datacards are the last of the datacards. No more updates after these. Sign 8th wont use datacards?
One can hope because this sounds like the death of the random freakin table roll for everything. My guess is this means GW is trying to make games faster by removing some of the excessive setup time and random riling elements.
legionaires wrote: Damn, I was hoping for an option to purchase the upgrade sprue separately.
I missed this. What upgrade sprue? Where do we get it?
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: I find the the armoured claw boxed set (Cadian Neophytes and Chimera) a bit odd as well as it is not an actual named codex entry just a Neophyte squad with added troop transport. Glad that there is a discount on buying the Cadians and Chimera separately though (£25 minus the heavy weapon team+ £22.50 = £47.50, so a nice £12.50 saving straight away).
You're forgetting that the Cult Upgrade sprue is included as well.
In any regards, "Armored Claw" is likely just the name they wanted to give them. When the Cadian and Chimera set was last being sold, it was billed as an "Armored Fist Squad" despite that moniker long since having been gone from the codex.
Am i mis-remembering, or was the "armored fist" bundle $60 USD? It was still saving cash vs buying the chimera and the cadian team seperately. But this for $55 and includes a HWT *and* a GSC upgrade sprue? madness! I will probably get one or two before they stop making them.
Oh, and as a non-guard player i have to ask another dumb question - are the cadian squads supposed to be veterans or platoon squads and is there specific modeling to differentiate the two?
The Cadian Squads are meant to be Platoon Squads or Veteran Squads.
There is no box specific to Veterans.
streamdragon wrote:So the Cult Neophyte Hybrid Squad is 10 Cadian Shock Troops, a Heavy Weapon Team and the Cult Upgrade sprue: $45 bucks.
Heavy Weapons Teams are normally not individually available, only in groups of 3. So we will look at 3 GSCNHS squads at $135.
GSC Armoured Claw: $55 AM Chimera: $37.25 AM Cadians: $29 AM Total: $66.25
So the Armoured Claw Team is actually CHEAPER than the comparable AM squads! You're getting the GSC Upgrade Sprue for (effectively) NEGATIVE $11.25!
Guess I know what I'm ordering!
Heavy Weapons Teams are available by themselves. They're $16 USD, up from the original price of $10 when they released waaaaay back in the day, and Direct Only.
29+16+37.25+13.50=$95.75
The upgrade sprue, if sold separately, would be $13.50(they've done upgrade sprue prices as static no matter the content for Marines, so it would be quite odd to see the price shifted for GSC). The Deathwatch stuff was sold more or less at cost with the upgrade frames being discounted as well.
ADDITIONALLY, Chimeras do not include Track Guards anymore. That requires you to purchase the "Astra Militarum Tank Accessories" pack which is $15 by itself. Plan accordingly, as it's a Direct Only item.
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Yes it was established within their fluff that they still need to drink, eat, and do all that sort of living stuff, that they can still feel fear and the like.
The music from the trailer is this track (with some changes)
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Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Goliath Truck/50pts
BS3 11/10/10 hp3 open-topped/transport 10 models no genestealer or patriarch
With heavy stubber + twinlinked autocannon
Special rule/ rugged construction / 4+ to ignore crew stunned shaken or immobilised but still lose hp Option/ a cache of demolition charge 20pts/ 1 model can choose to throw one instead of firing its normal weapon 6" S8 AP2 assault 1 , large blast
Tyranid607 wrote: Goliath Truck/50pts
BS3 11/10/10 hp3 open-topped/transport 10 models no genestealer or patriarch
With heavy stubber + twinlinked autocannon
Special rule/ rugged construction / 4+ to ignore crew stunned shaken or immobilised but still lose hp Option/ a cache of demolition charge 20pts/ 1 model can choose to throw one instead of firing its normal weapon 6" S8 AP2 assault 1 , large blast
Amazing! Thank you!
Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it.
Tyranid607 wrote: Goliath Truck/50pts
BS3 11/10/10 hp3 open-topped/transport 10 models no genestealer or patriarch
With heavy stubber + twinlinked autocannon
Special rule/ rugged construction / 4+ to ignore crew stunned shaken or immobilised but still lose hp Option/ a cache of demolition charge 20pts/ 1 model can choose to throw one instead of firing its normal weapon 6" S8 AP2 assault 1 , large blast
As we hoped, the normal Goliath is open-topped. Seems like a good exchange for the Chimera, you get an assault vehicle and more firing ports, better firepower and that whole ignoring half of the negative vehicle damage results, but you get weaker front armor. Good stuff.
Cheers mate!
Any news on what the Seismic Cannon does?
tetrisphreak wrote: Is the result that allows you to charge on the turn you arrive force a disordered charge?
Thanks, btw, for the info.
Don;'t put too much on this "I have the codex" guy. He has deleted any predictions that he made that straight up contradicted the known materials now.
Really? Last time I saw him called out it was because he said there was no Brood Brothers unit entry despite it being 'confirmed', and now we know they're Neophytes.
tetrisphreak wrote: Is the result that allows you to charge on the turn you arrive force a disordered charge?
Thanks, btw, for the info.
Don;'t put too much on this "I have the codex" guy. He has deleted any predictions that he made that straight up contradicted the known materials now.
So what? Your point is? What if he is correct? Then what are you going to do?
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Pretty sure the stuff he deleted was actually correct too. If I'm not mistaken he talked about the Rockgrinder, the Seismic Cannon, etc. Nothing he's said to my memory has been contradicted, he was called out for saying there are no Broodkin but the codex glossary leak has confirmed he was right.
tetrisphreak wrote: Is the result that allows you to charge on the turn you arrive force a disordered charge?
Thanks, btw, for the info.
Don;'t put too much on this "I have the codex" guy. He has deleted any predictions that he made that straight up contradicted the known materials now.
Really? Last time I saw him called out it was because he said there was no Brood Brothers unit entry despite it being 'confirmed', and now we know they're Neophytes.
I believe him.
Honestly it's not a matter of whether or not he's trolling. I love thinking about the things i'm going to be able to do with this army and everything so far i've read falls in line with the "hints" given out by the games workshop facebook studio, as well as some lines of text i was able to read in the BOLS teaser video on saturday. The statline and rules for the goliath truck seem pretty legit for it's points cost and yeah 60 for a transport is expensive in dollars but with the cult ambush rule, i can't imagine a force that would need more than 2 or 3 total especially if you're doing larger hordes of cultists. The demo charges rule is pretty cool too. Short range but a heck of a punch. Of course there will be the times when it scatters backwards and blows up the transport that was carrying it, but that's war!
Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it.
So the only releases on the 15th are the Leman Russ and the chimera bundle. This makes for a very slight release week. On the 8th for comparison we get a new tank, a new clam pack, imperial guard and space marine bundles and a new battle mat. There must be something else coming.
When he posts something new and true, Then I am going to post an excuse to the user with 30 post, that until now only has posted rumors that are quite safe and removed all falls hoods by edits.
I just say don't get your hopes up, only based on Tyranid607's posts
Inactive, user. New profile might pop up in a while
tetrisphreak wrote: Is the result that allows you to charge on the turn you arrive force a disordered charge?
Thanks, btw, for the info.
Don;'t put too much on this "I have the codex" guy. He has deleted any predictions that he made that straight up contradicted the known materials now.
He predicted the ultramarine bundle up this week - which is now confirmed.
Maybe he is not Sad panda but obviously he have some info.
And I'd better not put my attention for a new account - 1) anonimity 2) cross-forum users (B&C on maintenance,Warseer RIP) 3) read only users. I was reading this forum since 2013 - registered only few month back.
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