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 Wilson wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They had one job - forecast and plan capacity to maximise impulse and pre-Christmas sales.

One job.

Facepalm.

You understand that forecast is only forecast and therefore practically never accurate?

Besides- they've not even started sales yet!

Industrial forecasts can often be incredibly accurate, and very important, that's why companies spend vast amounts on people and tech that help them get increasingly precise.

Of course, GW never spends money on anything that they can possibly avoid, no matter how beneficial it may be long term, so their forecasts probably consist of looking outside and seeing if the weather rock is wet or not.

Hearing some smaller accounts being told they cannot even order it unless its a big order..... is this going to be GW hitting the lgs discounters and trying to drive people into gw stores?

 Azreal13 wrote:


Of course, GW never spends money on anything that they can possibly avoid, no matter how beneficial it may be long term, so their forecasts probably consist of looking outside and seeing if the weather rock is wet or not....

without realizing that the forklift accidentally moved it under an awning when they were replacing the plinth outside with a Sigmarine topper. People have been waiting for plastic HH for years and there is no reason that this item should be supply constrained for so long.

Adeptus Astartes

Via Gametrust

-Aaron

so I wonder what in the SM demi-company and AM maniples? discount bundles for Xmas?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Of course, GW never spends money on anything that they can possibly avoid, no matter how beneficial it may be long term, so their forecasts probably consist of looking outside and seeing if the weather rock is wet or not.

Oy! Don't discount the accuracy of weather rocks. My rock has told me some fascinating stuff over the years, like the fact that I would make a lousy meteorologist.

The monopose legs and the lack of undercuts in the knee armour and exhaust vents really hurts the Contemptor, but its still a good starter set. I really want one or two.

Looking at the price of this set, looking in my own empty wallet. Can everyone promise not to buy all of these until next year?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
so I wonder what in the SM demi-company and AM maniples? discount bundles for Xmas?

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So you save £22 on the Elimination Mantiple (£112 normally) - not too bad!

And the Demi-co is about $300 worth of minis for $220. Not bad.

If you pick that up, plus the HH box, you can have a full company for $370. 60 tactical, 5 AM, 5 Dev, 2 captains to choose from, a chaplain and a pair of dreads. Plus some TDA guys. To get the who package you’d want 5 more AMs and 5 more PA guys to bulk out the AM/dev squads, and a command squad. Plus all the transports.

 Wilson wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They had one job - forecast and plan capacity to maximise impulse and pre-Christmas sales.

One job.

Facepalm.

You understand that forecast is only forecast and therefore practically never accurate?

Besides- they've not even started sales yet!

I've been a buyer with Far East leadtimes most of my career and forecast the last Harry Potter book for 50% of the UK market's sales. Accurately. Yup, I do understand. ;-)

Wonderwolf wrote:

Why on earth would they order a second printing now?

Budget would be my guess. Regardless of how many they think they can sell, they can still only produce as many as they can afford to make.

 insaniak wrote:

Wonderwolf wrote:

Why on earth would they order a second printing now?

Budget would be my guess. Regardless of how many they think they can sell, they can still only produce as many as they can afford to make.

Or simply production capacity (not necessarily that they can't make more in one go, just that they might not be willing to cut down on other products to make that happen). It could be a similar, but larger scale version of what they did for Smaug last year, one run in time for Christmas and then several subsequent 'reprints' as long as there is demand.

Can't believe that the Spanish have to pay 5 Euros more then the French & Germans for the SM set.
What's the saving on the Mech Elimination box?

What's the saving on the Mech Elimination box?

Just checked, Man-Nipple saves - well, theoretically it still doesn't SAVE you anything, cause you are still leaving 90 quid for plastic toys that will only decrease in their value - 22 gbp. So that's pretty nice

Kinda funny that they put out the Demi-company. At $150 you can get 38 Models (30 Tacticals, Dread, 2 Characters, 5 Termies) with lots of options or you can pay $70 more for current mark armor and 4 more models

 Hulksmash wrote:
Kinda funny that they put out the Demi-company. At $150 you can get 38 Models (30 Tacticals, Dread, 2 Characters, 5 Termies) with lots of options or you can pay $70 more for current mark armor and 4 more models

Heh. Good call.

Any other time and it would be solid. It saves around $50 (25%) and is going regular retail so would be available at another 20% off. That's solid savings. If you're not comparing it to the Horus Heresy boxset and like the older model armor and weapons.

There are some perks to the demi co that come with the markup.

Looks like they are using the multi-pose captain, rather then a mono. He’s dated, but very flexible.
The HH box offers HBs and MLs for big guns. The Dev kit offers up a lot more options, and will make the company box better for getting a viable army out of it.
Assault marines might get a bum rap on the table, but they are a nice kit.
The dreads are probably a wash. I do have a soft spot for the angry washing machine, and the kit does have some options not found on the HH one.

How often do people field 2xLC or tactical terminators? I know I do, but I think I’m the outlier here. So are those 5 guys just going to be shelf warmers? Once you start taking some of the “meh” stuff out of bundles and looking at the cost of things you actually want, what makes a bargain starts to shift.

(this from a 40k POV, not 30k)

Both boxes look to make about a 1k list. I’d put money on the demi co winning the match between the two.

Anyone seen any decent prices from online sellers yet ?

I'm wondering what's with the £45 Betrayal at Calth book? Some kind of stupid limited edition tie-in book?

 Bull0 wrote:
I'm wondering what's with the £45 Betrayal at Calth book? Some kind of stupid limited edition tie-in book?

There's two novels/books released alongside, I think that's both of them in a slipcase.

So yeah, essentially a stupid LE tie in thing.

 CURNOW wrote:
Anyone seen any decent prices from online sellers yet ?

$112.50



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HHBC

Doesn't Kurtha Sedd

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Doesn't Kurtha Sedd

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get killed by Aeonid Thiel in Censure?

That's how I remember it.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Older armour is fitting for Death Guard.

It's pretty much fitting for any 40K Chaos Marine army. If I was looking to create a new Chaos Army, I'd probably pick up one of these just for the kitbash opportunities alone. Of course, this may be colored by the fact that I think the plastic Chaos Marine kits are among the worst in GW's current range though.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Older armour is fitting for Death Guard.

It's pretty much fitting for any 40K Chaos Marine army. If I was looking to create a new Chaos Army, I'd probably pick up one of these just for the kitbash opportunities alone. Of course, this may be colored by the fact that I think the plastic Chaos Marine kits are among the worst in GW's current range though.

With Fire Warriors redone, CSM troops are the oldest, IIRC along with Eldar Guardians and Ork Boyz.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 CURNOW wrote:
Anyone seen any decent prices from online sellers yet ?

$112.50

Where's that price from?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Older armour is fitting for Death Guard.

It's pretty much fitting for any 40K Chaos Marine army. If I was looking to create a new Chaos Army, I'd probably pick up one of these just for the kitbash opportunities alone. Of course, this may be colored by the fact that I think the plastic Chaos Marine kits are among the worst in GW's current range though.

With Fire Warriors redone, CSM troops are the oldest, IIRC along with Eldar Guardians and Ork Boyz.

Aren't the Necron Warriors and Catachan Guardsmen also really old?

 CURNOW wrote:
Anyone seen any decent prices from online sellers yet ?

£80 from a guy at my club.

ONline, 4TK is -25% on preorders plus p&p (which was about £4 for Stormclaw/AoS from memory).

Wayland is usually -20% and free p&p, unless the p&p deal has finished. Plus you never know if they have over sold what you want!

Can't afford this so me and a busdy are splitting it.

I get 15 Marines and the Contemptor, the dice, tiles, and cards and he gets the rest. I am also trading him some Mexhwarrior to get 10 MK 2 Marines.

Btw HMBC, I guess you're getting your cards, dice and tiles now.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Older armour is fitting for Death Guard.

It's pretty much fitting for any 40K Chaos Marine army. If I was looking to create a new Chaos Army, I'd probably pick up one of these just for the kitbash opportunities alone. Of course, this may be colored by the fact that I think the plastic Chaos Marine kits are among the worst in GW's current range though.

With Fire Warriors redone, CSM troops are the oldest, IIRC along with Eldar Guardians and Ork Boyz.

Khorne Berzerkers and Catachans are the oldest, followed by Chaos Marines. But GW hates Chaos so we're unlikely to see new kits anytime soon...

 TalonZahn wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 CURNOW wrote:
Anyone seen any decent prices from online sellers yet ?

$112.50

Where's that price from?

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