New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**Puscifer**

I'll be happy with suits looking like Shas'O Kais from Dark Crusade.

**Backfire**

Veskrashen wrote:
@savageconvoy - I would agree with your assessment that Tau were getting a lot of their firepower taken away if Broadsides got S8 railguns... if I didn't think there were some serious, fundamental shifts in Tau armament in the works with this codex.

To expand, you're right - at the moment Tau are limited to S10 railguns in Heavy Support slots or Fusion on suits as viable solutions to AV13/14. In this context, dropping Broadside railguns to S8 leaves only Hammerheads as viable counters to AV13/14 armor.

That said... I feel there's more on the way for Tau. For one thing, I can't imagine that GW is totally ignorant of how narrow our options are for countering AV13/14. We've also heard a variety of rumors hinting at new weapons for Crisis suits - to include ion style guns, or ion cannons that can be overloaded, etc etc etc. I could easily envision a scenario wherein XV8s or some non-HS vehicles get a longer range melta option, or S8 railguns get the Lance special rule, or we get some variant of a Haywire gun. There's any number of ways that GW could address the need to counter AV13/14 at range without requiring S10 72" railguns to accomplish that goal. Any number of them could fundamentally change the style of play from "grab a buttload of XV88s, park them behind an Aegis or in a Bastion, and gut vehicles". It could allow for far more mobile, fluid, or reactive playstyles that are simply not an option with the current codex - precisely because we are so limited options-wise when it comes to dealing with mid-high AV vehicles.

True, but none of the rumours really seem to point to that direction. It's very unlikely Crisis suits get weapons more powerful than current Melta/Missile Pod. Same for Fire Warriors. No word on new vehicles other than Flyers. Since Tau can't kill things like heavy armour, Monstrous creatures and high-T models like Bikes in assault, they are going to need large number of very powerful guns - which they have in current codex, whatever other faults it has.

**Desubot**

Speaking of firewarriors are there any news on what they will do with the carbines?

**Shadox**

There were rumors about allowing them an additional movement at the end of the shooting phase if they use carbines but I don't know how up to date that is.

**paulson games**

Nobody has addressed the most pressing question, are they still going to be blue?

If they go red I am so toally rage quitting!

So many of these "rumors" are just people posting their wishlisting and it holds as much water a bucket full of holes.

**Ministry**

Shorter arms for the crisis suits would be a bad thing. They are already stubby like a TRex in my opinion and that makes them harder to pose in non L positions.

Lets seriously hope that the writer is NOT the DA codex writer. That codex was full of extremely conservative rules that left most DA players stratching our heads on what were they thinking when it was written!

**Jefffar**

paulson games wrote:
Nobody has addressed the most pressing question, are they still going to be blue?

If they go red I am so toally rage quitting!

So many of these "rumors" are just people posting their wishlisting and it holds as much water a bucket full of holes.

I could be okay with red, but if they go green I'm burning my collection.

**hotsauceman1**

A tank commander huh? Sounds interesting. I wonder what he will do.

**Lovepug13**

This could be a good codex, the first decent one for the edition anyway lol

**hotsauceman1**

Aslong as i have something to deal with Hell turkeys and flying croissants im happy

**Desubot**

urg i hope that rumor for the uber suit being called the riptide is untrue

sounds lame imo. should of been something more nautical ship themed like the broadside, though i cant think of any lol

**Harriticus**

Rented Tritium wrote:
Hooved suits? Yes please.

I think Tau actually have hoof-like feet. May explain the Battlesuit aesthetic.

**spectreoneone**

Harriticus wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Hooved suits? Yes please.

I think Tau actually have hoof-like feet. May explain the Battlesuit aesthetic.

They do. They also only have 4 digits on each hand.

**Backfire**

spectreoneone wrote:
Harriticus wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Hooved suits? Yes please.

I think Tau actually have hoof-like feet. May explain the Battlesuit aesthetic.

They do. They also only have 4 digits on each hand.

Fire warriors don't actually wear boots normally, do they?

**spectreoneone**

Backfire wrote:
spectreoneone wrote:
Harriticus wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Hooved suits? Yes please.

I think Tau actually have hoof-like feet. May explain the Battlesuit aesthetic.

They do. They also only have 4 digits on each hand.

Fire warriors don't actually wear boots normally, do they?

I'm not 100%, but I don't think they do...then again, it's fully possible they do wear something over their hooves while they are in armor.

**Kroothawk**

The Dude over at Warseer General Discussion wrote:I've heard Riptide for the Ubersuit, but give that some salt

Any word on the Kroot HQ/other kroot choices on the FOC?

I've heard no to both. To be clear:
No new Kroot units/creatures.
No Kroot HQ unit.

Sounds odd to me.

**Mecha_buddha**

How far in advance are white dwarf images leaked on average?

**AndrewC**

A couple of thoughts on this, while I can see GW reducing the current strengths on Tau to force a rethink on army composition in order to maximise sales, it is a concern that out of all these rumours, only the negatives seem to be coming to light. I would have expected, at least, a balanced report of good to bad.

I am now worried about the future codex.

Andrew

**King Pariah**

Taken with a grain of salt, but I have heard that the uber suit is going to be named something along the lines of the Extinction battlesuit.

**Archonate**

spectreoneone wrote:
Backfire wrote:
spectreoneone wrote:
Harriticus wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
Hooved suits? Yes please.

I think Tau actually have hoof-like feet. May explain the Battlesuit aesthetic.

They do. They also only have 4 digits on each hand.

Fire warriors don't actually wear boots normally, do they?

I'm not 100%, but I don't think they do...then again, it's fully possible they do wear something over their hooves while they are in armor.

FWs wear sort of an open-toed boot. Their hooves are bare, but there are boots covering their legs. Crisis Suit feet are supposed to emulate Tau hooves. Large middle toe, smaller lateral toe, and tiny 'thumb' toe on the medial side. But the Crisis feet are a bit too long imo, and look too bird-like. It would be nice if they looked more hoofy.

**Captain Avatar**

Desubot wrote:urg i hope that rumor for the uber suit being called the riptide is untrue

sounds lame imo. should of been something more nautical ship themed like the broadside, though i cant think of any lol

There are many good synonyms to Broadside that would work much better than the rumoured Rip-Tide designation.

Fusillade, Barrage and Salvo just to name a few.

King Pariah wrote:Taken with a grain of salt, but I have heard that the uber suit is going to be named something along the lines of the Extinction battlesuit.

I hope that you are joking. If not, this would be horrible in that the connotations of such a name would be a drastic move towards painting the Tau as villians.

Would much prefer the name to be "Crossfire", "Fusillade", "Salvo" or "Torrent"

About the strength reduction of the broadsides railgun. I don't really mind the thought if fusion blasters get the FW 18" range and the Tau get other effective anti AV 13-14 units/weapons.

**MoD_Legion**

I hope to god that rumour about changing broadside rails isnt true. While it sorta makes sense from a fluffy standpoint, hammerheads suck at AV with their 1 shot and not that reliable chance to hit (never mind the actual chance to do damage after, I often play against orks with CFF), I strictly use it as anti-horde, unless there are no better targets to shoot at. Str 8 takes it into the range of deathrains, while taking the slots of our only other long range AV option (the hammerhead, even though its better at other stuff, and way more expensive per shot). I guess one option would be to take less deathrains and focus the crisis suits on other roles.

**Coyote81**

Perhaps they are changing the options on crisis sits to not include missile pods so that they don't fight with broadsides for being our long ranged unit.

A lot of people hear these rumors and panic, but you can't take any changes at face value without see what else they changed in the book. What if broadsides lost their S10 railgun and got a S8 one, but they added a new Heavy support tank that could take two. Or maybe one of the new fliers has one. Most new books are designed to give upgrades in one area and downgrades in another. Unless your GKs. My witchhunter army of old (no sisters) became rather sick when that book came out, and still competes to this day.

You can never really know how a unit will do with buffs or nerf until you take the whole book into account.

**KaiserEddie**

Wasnt Riptide the name of the master of O`Shova/Farsight and O´Shasherra/Shadowsun? I think i read it on the codex, i dont have it with me by the time im writing this but... If Someone could take a quick look, it would be nice.

**Kingsley**

KaiserEddie wrote:
Wasnt Riptide the name of the master of O`Shova/Farsight and O´Shasherra/Shadowsun? I think i read it on the codex, i dont have it with me by the time im writing this but... If Someone could take a quick look, it would be nice.

Close-- that was Commander Puretide.

**Rented Tritium**

So one rumor said the big suit wouldn't compete for slots? Does this mean it'll be an HQ or a detachment or something?

**Swissivy**

I wonder how Puretide would translate into stat profile.
Same for Kais and his father.

**Medium of Death**

I hope the suits continue their naming conversion of Crisis > Hazard > "Uber Suit"

Perhaps Exigence Class Battlesuit...

Who knows, if it's half as cool as it sounds then who really cares what it's called?

**spectreoneone**

MoD_Legion wrote:
I hope to god that rumour about changing broadside rails isnt true. While it sorta makes sense from a fluffy standpoint, hammerheads suck at AV with their 1 shot and not that reliable chance to hit (never mind the actual chance to do damage after, I often play against orks with CFF), I strictly use it as anti-horde, unless there are no better targets to shoot at. Str 8 takes it into the range of deathrains, while taking the slots of our only other long range AV option (the hammerhead, even though its better at other stuff, and way more expensive per shot). I guess one option would be to take less deathrains and focus the crisis suits on other roles.

You're completely discounting the fact that there is a rumored "über" suit that is supposed to be DK sized, armed with two railguns. Again, as I've said before, all of this speculation is taking the possible change to Broads out context. GW is going to change things up in the Codex, and they're going to make it so people have to go out and purchase the new models. This serves two purposes: 1. To refresh a stale Codex and bring it line with 6th Ed. and 2. To drive more sales. GW is a business, after all, and they exist to provide this hobby to us, as well as make a profit. I can't fault them in either way, as I am looking forward to a change in the way Tau play, as well as new units, and I have no problem with a business doing something new so they can increase their bottom line, and keep creating the product I enjoy greatly.

Just remember, we don't know how everything is going to work out in the end until Codexes are in hand. Just be glad that GW is going to give the Tau some love...they could have just kicked the can down the road on us and given us the SoB treatment!

**Veskrashen**

From the Warseer forums:

superawesomeraptorman wrote:
All I was told is there railgun goes down to strength 8, stays AP1, no more A.S.S, can purchase skyfire (its not super cheap). I don't know how that affects broadsides overall costing though. I also foolishly didn't ask about whether they get both interceptor and skyfire or just skyfire.

Also I can't quite remember but there MIGHT be an option to increase HQ suits to toughness 5.

S8 AP1 "light railguns" with Skyfire would murder a whole lot of things. Broadsides might no longer be the ultimate AV13/14 hunters they are today, but could murder a whole lot of things anyway - to include every single flyer out there, Storm Ravens / Vendettas / Hellturkies included.

If you mounted 1-2 of these on a Tau flyer, it'd pretty much be the ultimate anti-air flyer available at the moment, especially if it ended up with Vector Dancer or something similar. It'd also be amazing against pretty much every land-based armor that's not a Land Raider. That's just wishlisting a bit though.

neko wrote:I believe the anti-air drones are carried by one of the aircraft. An airbourne equivilent to the Devilfish is my understanding.

Maybe my wishlisting isn't that wishful... then again, could easily be a Rail Rifle equivalent instead of a S8 AP1 "light railgun".