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Well, I'm done with my finals - so you guys know what THAT means!

Las Vegas Open 2015: Game 1

Woof man, Vegas is stressful. I'm not much of a gambler or a drinker, but I am (obviously) big into 40k, so I am nervous for this tournament! It's my first time at the LVO, and if it is anything like I suspect it is, I imagine it to be like Adepticon - highly competitive. After looking around at the tables, I'm seeing a LOT of Nids, Knights, and Eldar....and no Orks. Go figure.

But hey, that's why I'm here, isn't it? I want Orks to REPRESENT BOYEEEE. I wanna make the army proud and show the meta that Orks have what it takes to krush, to krump, and to kick ass!

For those of you who aren't familiar, the missions for LVO work like this:

There are 10 points earnable by either player.

You get 4 points if you win primary, which is usually some modified form of Killpoints, objectives, the relic, etc.

You get 3 points if you win Maelstrom, which is based on a mini-chart from 1-6 of things like "kill a unit" or "Get into your opponent's deployment edge", that sort of thing. These vary from mission to mission.

Finally, there are 3x 1 point objectives which you can obtain from First Blood, Linebreaker, and Warlord, for a total of 10 points. Whoever has more points wins that mission!

Here's one last reminder of my list:


LIST ONE: The Green Tide (V. Final)


* "Green Tide Formation"
94x Boyz
6x Nobz with Klaws

* Warboss warlord
* 'Eavy Armour
Power Klaw

Orks: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ +
* Warboss
Gift: Da Lucky Stikk ,
* 'Eavy Armour, Bosspole
Power Klaw

* Painboy

+ Elites +

* 9x Tankbusta

* 10x Tankbusta


+ Troops +
* 10x Gretchin
* Runtherd

* 10x Gretchin
* Runtherd

+ Fast Attack +
* Deffkopta
Choppa, Twin-linked Rokkits

+ Heavy Support +
* Gun Wagon Squad
* Gun Wagon
1x TL Big Shoota, Boarding Plank, Reinforced Ram
* Gun Wagons
1x TL Big Shoota, Boarding Plank, Reinforced Ram

* Mek Gunz
3x Ammo Runt
* 2x Kustom Mega-kannon w/ Grots
* 1x Traktor Kannon w/ Grots

* Mek Gunz
3x Ammo Runt
* 2x Kustom Mega-kannon w/ Grots
* 1x Traktor Kannon w/ Grots


+ Fortification +
* Void Shield Generator w/ 3 Shields

Under the rules of the LVO, you can challenge (aka mutually pick) your first round opponent, who was originally supposed to play Doktor_g for round 1 - the Dakkaite who made the Table-Flip challenge in the first place! I was initially skeptical of playing him since I am a highly competitive player and he mostly plays for gaks and giggles, and I would have felt bad if one of us had taken each other out of the running. However, he insisted we play, so we tried setting up the game. However, there was some snafu in the data entry, and as a result, we were not matched up. C'est la vie.

Instead, I get another table, and my mysterious first challenger is....

Shane “Khronos” Finley's Astra Militarum!


Hist list (From memory, as I appear to have lost his list

CCS w/ 4x Snipers and Officer of the Fleet
Commissar
Priest
10x Man Vet Squad w/ 2 Plasma guns in Chimera
10x Man Vet Squad w/ 2 Plasma guns in Chimera
30x Man Platoon Squad w/ 2 Axes
1x Wyvern
1x Wyvern
1x Vendetta
1x Avenger Strike Fighter
1x Vulture Gunship w/ Punisher Cannons

Baneblade

Mission:

Primary: Emperor's Will
Secondary: Maelstrom
Tertiary: Slay the Warlord, Linebreaker, First Blood

Pre-Game Thoughts: Shane was a very charming guy, and a very fun opponent. However, he did bring a list that gave me concern upon initial blush. Wyverns are a problem because they can (potentially) snipe out my characters, although there are only two of them. The vulture Gunship will be great at shooting down my Green Tide, and the Baneblade's large blast will also take down a number of models as well. My best bet with Shane is to hit him hard, and hit him fast - the quicker I can get into his back lines the better.

Fortunately, there is a large amount of cover at LVO - which will help me avoid his shooting for a time.

Shane wins the roll to go first and deploys first. He spreads his Wyverns out behind LOS, his platoon up front, and his Wyverns and his Baneblade on the left Flank to support each other.


I spread my tide out as much as possible to avoid the blasts, and place my VSG behind the ruins on the left to give it a cover save should needs be. The Tankbustas also deploy behind the ruins near the VSG in the Gunwagons as well. The Artillery deploy in the ruins on the right. However, I make a SERIOUS deployment mistake, which you can see in this picture....anyone notice it? Bonus points if you do.


I don't recall if I attempted to seize or not, but if I did, I failed. Shane takes the first turn, and moves his Baneblade up 6" to get his shots in with ALL of his guns.

Have you figured out the HUGE deployment mistake I made yet? Give up? I'll tell you:



So, Shane naturally capitalizes on this (hell, I would have too!) After shooting off the VSG with his Baneblade and the Chimeras, he goes for it with his Wyvern (the other was out of range) Fortunately for me, and unfortunately for my opponent, his dice rolls this whole game were ABYSMAL, and he scatters completely off the board, even with the reroll! Lucky me! Thus, his turn ends rather uneventfully.

However, now it is my turn to capitalize on a mistake Shane made - moving his 6" closer to my Tankbustas.

I move up, get them out, and take a potshot with both squads of the Tankbustas, doing a single HP. The rest of the Green Tide moves up as well, and runs to get closer. The Artillery takes some shots at his guys, but don't do much.
I then attempt to charge the Baneblade with my Tankbustas. With the Boarding Planks, one squad needs a 6" charge (8" away), and the other one needs an 8" (10" away).

What happens?



Shane isn't down and out yet, though - far from it. With his Officer of the Fleet, he rolls on ALL three flyers ... ouch!


You can see my tide is midfield, and the Baneblade on the left is dead. His chimeras are still in the far back, as are his Wyverns, and Shane needs to keep me back. He decides to go for a high risk, high reward decision - after shooting, which is relatively uneventful (although he wipes out my Tankbustas ) he charges in his platoon of 30 guys with his priest and commissar.

We roll into combat, and Shane isn't hoping to win - merely to hold me over for a turn so he can get another shot at shooting me before I hit his lines.



Mid Game:


Things are looking grim for Shane. Although he killed off my Tankbustas (which was mainly my anti-air), his transports are empty, and even with the vulture, can only kill so many models a turn. Furthermore, I declare my WAUUUGHH and get a good run roll - allowing me to basically charge his entire line! One Chimera, the remaining platoon men, one Wyvern, and his Company Command Squad in the ruins all get hit.

Shane's dice just aren't on his side for his saves either....this was his roll on his CCS.



It's kinda blurry to tell, but all of those were his saves - and all but 2 of them were 1's. Poor Shane is just having no luck against me, although he claimed that was pretty normal for him.

I win combat by a MASSIVE amount, meaning that Shane's testing on double ones to not fall back. His Wyvern and Chimera both exploded, killing several guys, and his CCS is down to a single model - his commander - with ONE wound left.



At this point, we call it. It's only top of 3, but Shane's renaming ground forces are in total disarray, and the remainder of what he has (with the exception of his flyers) are going to get wiped out by the tide on the next turn. I'm crushing him on Maelstrom, I already have First Blood, and Linebreaker is obvious with him having no good way to take the rest of my models down.

As a result:

Orks take Primary.

Orks take Secondary.

Orks have First Blood, Linebreaker, and Warlord.

We agree Shane could have just flown around the board for the rest of the game and just gone into hover on the last game turn, so we give him Linebreaker.


Orks takes it, 10-1.

After-Game Thoughts:

What an unfortunate slaughter! I mean, it's absolutely great for you! But the game could have been much more fun. Still, tournaments are no place for fun Well played and congrats on the first victory! The ominous reference to the next game has me on the edge of my seat!

Wow what a crushing blow to the IG !!!

I'm very excited to read the rest of your reports, I would love it if you could write some of your thoughts about the best placement of the Void Shield Generator as well (I plan on adding one to my Renegade & Heretics army, since, you know, it's the one army that does hordes better than Orks )

Thanks for sharing these, and I hope your exams went well.

I know your tankbustas were the main anti air and stars here but did your traktor kannons do anything for the anti air?
I was thinking maybe you could have done one squd of 2 smasha kannons and a traktor and another squad of two kmk and a traktor kannon maybe? I dunno something maybe to synchronize them better.

Did your void shield regenerate enough between turns to help the tide? With the bane blade down he needs to rely on str 6 multi lasers which isn't great and The vulture and wyverns can do jack to av12 shields!

GrafWattenburg wrote:I'm very excited to read the rest of your reports, I would love it if you could write some of your thoughts about the best placement of the Void Shield Generator as well (I plan on adding one to my Renegade & Heretics army, since, you know, it's the one army that does hordes better than Orks )

Thanks for sharing these, and I hope your exams went well. !

Typically I either (A) placed it as far forward or possible or (B) placed it as far BACK as possible.

A is for situations where I am moving forward and my opponent is not (e.g. AM gunline, Tau, Eldar, etc.) They will never be in range (12") of the VSG to ignore my VSG, and if they are, I'm totally okay with this because it's also charge range!

B is for situations where my opponent will be playing aggressive and moving forward (e.g. FMC spam, Knights, White Scars). I try to keep it on my board edge, screened in 12" in all direction to prevent them from ignoring my VSG - I want to negate as many shots as I can!

gungo wrote:I know your tankbustas were the main anti air and stars here but did your traktor kannons do anything for the anti air?
I was thinking maybe you could have done one squd of 2 smasha kannons and a traktor and another squad of two kmk and a traktor kannon maybe? I dunno something maybe to synchronize them better.

Did your void shield regenerate enough between turns to help the tide? With the bane blade down he needs to rely on str 6 multi lasers which isn't great and The vulture and wyverns can do jack to av12 shields!

Actually, although I didn't write about it, the Traktor Kannons took down the Vendetta in Turn 2. Lucky shot! However, for the rest of the games, while they would often make my opponent jink, it rarely caused the death of a flyer. As for my thoughts on the Mek Gunz, I will do an after-tournament report on them describing each unit and my grade on them, same as I did in the last battle report thread for the Renegade.

The VSG regenerating shields helped a couple times (mostly as icing on the cake), but it was rarely effective after the first turn or two. Taking down AV12 isn't hard, especially when you only have 1 or 2 shields left. That's why I'm confused as heck as to why people are mad about the Green Tide + VSG - it's not hard to take down, people! Hell, I faced two of them in the remaining 5 games!

No offense to you, I want to see orks do really well just as much as anyone else, but this seems exploitive. They specifically nerfed the KFF to avoid this kind of thing. They never intended the void shield generator bubble to cover 7/8ths of the board, and I am suprised it wasen't ruled that way honestly. It just seems like another oopsie in a long line of GW mistakes. I am curious though, if you had to run orks in a tournament again, and they DID rule that void shields couldnt extend past the 12 inches, how would you change up your list?

How does the shield work ? I know it's 3 armor 12 shields. Can all the shields be brought down by a single unit ?

Example would a broadside team witb missle pods drop all 3 shields ? Or to they just hit one shield ?

or is this case did the baneblade drop 1 shield or several ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
How does the shield work ? I know it's 3 armor 12 shields. Can all the shields be brought down by a single unit ?

Example would a broadside team with missle pods drop all 3 shields ? Or to they just hit one shield ?

Or in this case did the baneblade drop 1 shield or several ?

 Orock wrote:
No offense to you, I want to see orks do really well just as much as anyone else, but this seems exploitive. They specifically nerfed the KFF to avoid this kind of thing. They never intended the void shield generator bubble to cover 7/8ths of the board, and I am suprised it wasen't ruled that way honestly. It just seems like another oopsie in a long line of GW mistakes. I am curious though, if you had to run orks in a tournament again, and they DID rule that void shields couldnt extend past the 12 inches, how would you change up your list?

I know what you mean, but it's litterally what the rules for it say. There's no exploiting.
A balance issue maybe, but not an exploit.

They've already FAQ'd the Projected Void Shield (in regard to Blasts and Templates) but kept the way it interacts with units the same. One can only assume it's working as intended.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
How does the shield work ? I know it's 3 armor 12 shields. Can all the shields be brought down by a single unit ?

Example would a broadside team witb missle pods drop all 3 shields ? Or to they just hit one shield ?

or is this case did the baneblade drop 1 shield or several ?

Yes a single unit can take down several shields. You just need to pen/glance AV12 3 times and you're through. Baneblade could go through all of them and still hit hit the unit with a Blast.

Was that how he played it ? In his report he said the bane blade and chimeras dropped all the shields. Seems like the baneblade could have done it alone.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
Was that how he played it ? In his report he said the bane blade and chimeras dropped all the shields. Seems like the baneblade could have done it alone.

Sounds like he was having bad dice. The Chimeras need 6's to glance with their multilasers, so they would probaly struggle to take down all three.
Ideally the Baneblades Lascannons could have taken down the remaining before the Blasts were fired.

 Orock wrote:
No offense to you, I want to see orks do really well just as much as anyone else, but this seems exploitive. They specifically nerfed the KFF to avoid this kind of thing. They never intended the void shield generator bubble to cover 7/8ths of the board, and I am suprised it wasen't ruled that way honestly. It just seems like another oopsie in a long line of GW mistakes. I am curious though, if you had to run orks in a tournament again, and they DID rule that void shields couldnt extend past the 12 inches, how would you change up your list?

BTW, the ruling for the LVO with regards to VSG is not unique. It has been ruled that way ever since Adepticon 2014 (last year) and any of the tournaments that followed the Adepticon FAQ's.

Orock wrote:No offense to you, I want to see orks do really well just as much as anyone else, but this seems exploitive. They specifically nerfed the KFF to avoid this kind of thing. They never intended the void shield generator bubble to cover 7/8ths of the board, and I am suprised it wasen't ruled that way honestly. It just seems like another oopsie in a long line of GW mistakes. I am curious though, if you had to run orks in a tournament again, and they DID rule that void shields couldnt extend past the 12 inches, how would you change up your list?

Eh, I can understand the sentiment, but the Tide RARELY if ever got the benefit of the VSG past turn 1 or 2, as it only regenerates on a 5+, and by that time, I'm in combat. While I can understand the ridiculousness of it from a sensical standpoint, you're also complaining about one weird ruling in a game that allows Eldar Farseers to summon Daemonettes and Lords of Change.

Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:How does the shield work ? I know it's 3 armor 12 shields. Can all the shields be brought down by a single unit ?

Example would a broadside team witb missle pods drop all 3 shields ? Or to they just hit one shield ?

or is this case did the baneblade drop 1 shield or several ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
How does the shield work ? I know it's 3 armor 12 shields. Can all the shields be brought down by a single unit ?

Example would a broadside team with missle pods drop all 3 shields ? Or to they just hit one shield ?

Or in this case did the baneblade drop 1 shield or several ?

A unit of broadsides would roll their pen rolls, one at a time, until the shield went down. Therefore, if they had 10 hits, and the first three rolled a 12 to pen, then the other 7 hits would go towards the original target (such as the green tide or what have you).

grendel083 wrote:

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
Was that how he played it ? In his report he said the bane blade and chimeras dropped all the shields. Seems like the baneblade could have done it alone.

Sounds like he was having bad dice. The Chimeras need 6's to glance with their multilasers, so they would probaly struggle to take down all three.
Ideally the Baneblades Lascannons could have taken down the remaining before the Blasts were fired.

The chimeras shot and took off 2 shields, I think. Then the baneblade fired and took off the last one with one of its lascannons before it went to town on my tide with its blasts.

jy2 wrote:

 Orock wrote:
No offense to you, I want to see orks do really well just as much as anyone else, but this seems exploitive. They specifically nerfed the KFF to avoid this kind of thing. They never intended the void shield generator bubble to cover 7/8ths of the board, and I am suprised it wasen't ruled that way honestly. It just seems like another oopsie in a long line of GW mistakes. I am curious though, if you had to run orks in a tournament again, and they DID rule that void shields couldnt extend past the 12 inches, how would you change up your list?

BTW, the ruling for the LVO with regards to VSG is not unique. It has been ruled that way ever since Adepticon 2014 (last year) and any of the tournaments that followed the Adepticon FAQ's.

And this Adepticon for that matter, too! Speaking of, Jy2, are you heading to Adepticon this year?

Nope, but I am planning to go to either the ATC or Nova.

Thank you for clarification =) Will help to get what happened in the games a little easier for me

I look forward to the rest of the reports.

 Fxeni wrote:
The chimeras shot and took off 2 shields, I think. Then the baneblade fired and took off the last one with one of its lascannons before it went to town on my tide with its blasts.

This is actually an interesting side benefit of Void Shields that I've noticed--it seems to be a psychological thing, but people don't tend to view dropping the VSG as actually "gaining" anything tactically (because it's not really killing a model, doesn't get you First Blood, might regen, etc) and tend to use their least-valuable shooting in order to drop it, with the expectation of saving their "good" shooting for the stuff underneath the VSG after they drop it.

This means any S6-7 they have available to them gets chucked into the VSG and they hope they get lucky and drop it without having to dedicate their heavier weaponry. Chimeras are a super common one, but I've actually had Marine players shoot Thunderfires into the thing--that's one hit per shot (so four hits) due to the FAQ--on multiple occasions against different players.

In practice, this tends to result in your VSG eating a metric ton of S6-7 weapons, frequently not dropping, and them still being forced to fire their big stuff at it. So just like the above situation, he could have dropped the shield with the Baneblade and then fired the lesser stuff into the Orks...but instead he tried to drop the shield with the lesser stuff, failed, and had to fire the Baneblade into it anyway. In this case it sounds like it worked out alright (because it still dropped early enough for the Baneblade to fire its blasts into the Orks), but with only two Chimeras, he got rather lucky in dropping two shields prior to the Baneblade.

I can second the psychological bit. When I first played against a VSG (supporting an AdLance and Imperial Guard), I didn't want to 'waste' my S8 (Pulse Lasers--Hornets). So, I tried to bring them down with S6/7 from Wave Serpents and preserve the Hornets for shooting at the AdLance. Granted, had I rolled well for the number of shots with the Serpent Shield, I would have been nearly guaranteed to drop the VSG. However, I rolled low and couldn't produce 6's with the Scatter Lasers or 5's/6's with the shield.... I went on to lose.

Subsequently, I faced a Tyranid list supported by a VSG, in Hammer and Anvil deployment (which is almost always for a shooty army). I deployed a pair of Hornets on the board, something I rarely do, for the express purpose of dropping the shields. I went on to win.

Granted, those decisions in the respective games aren't the only reasons I lost/won, but they certainly reflect the proper way to approach a VSG supported army: Shoot your high strength stuff at it to drop the shields, then shoot what they were protecting with your lower strength (and hopefully higher volume) stuff.

Do i still get bonus points if i thought there were boyz and not grots in the crater? Cause i though: "why would you put part of GT in terrrain when it's possible not to".

 Orock wrote:
No offense to you, I want to see orks do really well just as much as anyone else, but this seems exploitive. They specifically nerfed the KFF to avoid this kind of thing. They never intended the void shield generator bubble to cover 7/8ths of the board, and I am suprised it wasen't ruled that way honestly. It just seems like another oopsie in a long line of GW mistakes. I am curious though, if you had to run orks in a tournament again, and they DID rule that void shields couldnt extend past the 12 inches, how would you change up your list?

Looking at his earlier post he didn't even know the VSG worked that way and was just going to roll without one.
Started using it when it was explained how it would work.

Do you actually own the model or did you mek one up like a true git

Loved your void shield generator!

Nice meeting you at the LVO, Matt. Enjoy the stompa!

I'm looking forward to hearing what happened with the game 5? It looked (sounded) contentious.

See you in the trenches... someday.

How do you deal with disordered charge against vehicles while you have no benefit from furious charge?

jy2 wrote:Nope, but I am planning to go to either the ATC or Nova.

Ah, bummer! Some friends of mine invited me to go to the ATC - I don't know much about it though.

koooaei wrote:Do i still get bonus points if i thought there were boyz and not grots in the crater? Cause i though: "why would you put part of GT in terrrain when it's possible not to".

Haha, fair enough! Points for you.

doktor_g wrote:Nice meeting you at the LVO, Matt. Enjoy the stompa!

I'm looking forward to hearing what happened with the game 5? It looked (sounded) contentious.

See you in the trenches... someday.

Yeah, game 5 was... well, unfortunate for both of us. (though especially me )

It was great to see you though, Dok! Do you plan on coming to any other tournaments this year, like Adepticon, Bugeater, etc? I never got a chance to buy you that drink!

Mr.T wrote:How do you deal with disordered charge against vehicles while you have no benefit from furious charge?

Well, typically I have enough klaws to make up for the loss of str 3. However, in addition, boyz all now come standard with frag grenades, so in a pinch, they can always use that at str 4 - even though it's only one attack each!

Edit: Whoops, I just realized that the frag grenades at str 4 isn't a thing. My bad. Oh well, it only came up in 1 game (a highlander game) and made no difference - shame on me, though.

Las Vegas Open 2015: Game 2

Well, it's been a good start - I'm at the 10 pt maximum so far, and I'm feeling optimistic...the next match is KP, and Green Tide is GREAT at KP. In fact, the only thing that I can think of that is even HARDER to kill then MY Green Tide is -


Marc Parker's GREEEEEEEEN TIIIIIIDE!


His List:

Warboss on Bike w/ Finkin Kap (Warlord)
Grotsnik
2x Grot Squad
VSG w/ 3 shields

Green Tide w/ 143 Boyz (40 have 'eavy armor)
8 Nobz w/ Klaws
Warboss w/ Klaw

Mission:

Primary: Purge the Alien
Secondary: Maelstrom
Tertiary: Slay the Warlord, Linebreaker, First Blood
Deployment: Vanguard Strike.



.......................well, gak.

Pre-Game Thoughts: Holy melon-fething son of a grot herding son of a git. Are you fething kidding me?

Marc's list is basically my nightmare come to life:

1. He has 1.5 the number of boys I do in his Green Tide.
2. He has more KLAWS then me too.
3. His tide has 'Eavy Armor on 40x guys - meaning even WITHOUT his numerical advantage, his tide is gonna be much harder to kill.
4. He has basically nothing I can take from him in terms of Killpoints, besides his TWO grot squads. His green tide will absolutely obliterate my green tide in a fair fight.
5. If by some friggen miracle I end up doing more damage to his tide and start winning in numbers and I ever outnumber him, his entire Green Tide will get Rampage due to Grotsnik, and all of them will get an average of an additional 2 attacks. That's an extra 300 attacks!
6. He ALSO has the Void Shield Generator, which is going to largely nullify most of my shooting.

So, of all of the players at LVO, I end up playing another Ork player with Green Tide on round 2, where the objective is Killpoints, and he has essentially only 3 things to kill - furthermore, his tide is WAY more brutal then mine. In addition, remember that a tide is worth 11 KP when killed - if Marc kills mine, there is literally no way for me to win on KP unless I table him.

On the outside, I'm calm and composed. On the inside, I'm screaming about how the hell I am going to win this one.

Well.... at least on the bright side, we'll both get to roll tons of dice, eh?

Marc wins the roll to go first and deploys first, hoping to gain as much momentum as possible to catch me as quick as he can.



JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF BOYS. IT MAKES MY TIDE LOOK TEENY WEENY.

Marc deploys quick. VSG in the back, grots next to it, and Tide spread alone his entire board edge. He then gives me the opportunity to deploy, and all I can do is just stare at the board and analyze the situation, again trying to scrounge up SOME idea of how I can win this match.

Marc is patient as the cogs in my skull sloooooowly turn, and I come up with the only possibility that I see out of this: I need to end the game while my Tide is alive and tying up his tide. In other words, I need to kill his Grots, and hope that my tide survives until the end of the game, so I can win on KP 2-0.

So, I deploy in one giant ball (Marc literally has NO shooting) so that I can get off as many attacks as possible against Marc when charged / charging.



Here's my game plan:

First of all, Tankbustas aren't going to do me any favors in this matchup. It's extra bodies in close combat, sure, but it's also easily gained KP if Marc swings at them. As such, their job is going to be to rush up to the gretchin when possible (they're the most mobile unit I have in my army) and kill them for the KP.

Second, the Mek Guns are going to sit and plink away with blasts and try to kill as many boys as possible before he hits my lines.

Third, my tide is going to sit in a large cluster in the ruins and try to bait Marc forward, but also sit at the edge of charge range. Marc doesn't have the warboss of his Green Tide as his warlord, so he only gets one WAAAGH this game. As such, I have the mobility advantage, and it is CRITICAL that I get the charge off on him to try to even out the fight. If Marc hits me with 150 furious charging boys with 'eavy armor to my 100 boys without, I'm in deep, deep trouble.

So, after deployment, the match looks like this:



The Tankbustas are on the left, waiting to go around the tide when possible to kill the grots. The Mek Gunz are on the right on the hill so they can get clear LOS. My tide sits in the ruins, at about 24", ready to charge Marc when given the chance.

I roll to seize the initiative (any extra turn of shooting is key!) and....



Marc moves up and runs his tide, sitting at about 18" away from me after his run. Because I deployed on his flank, he's trying to get his boys all over to the side where my green tide is so he doesn't lose attacks.

Meanwhile, I move back a few inches (just enough to sit at about 24") and shoot him.



The tankbustas take out the VSG's shields, and the Mek Gunz go to town with blasts. I kill maybe 10-20 boyz...which isn't nearly enough.

On Turn 2, Marc moves up again. Again, I move back and shoot him, and kill another 10-20 boyz. I'm now running low on space to back up with, and I'm sitting at the very edge of Marc's charge range.

By Turn 3, I'm actually starting to gain some confidence. Marc doesn't have the mobility (or the MSU) to win on Maelstrom, so I'm winning there. I'm also whittling down his tide a fair amount with my shooting. I have the Lucky Stikk, whereas Marc does not, so I'm WS5 vs his WS4 - meaning I hit him on 3's. If I can get the charge off, I might just have this!

Marc realizes this and realizes that his tide is losing bodies, and at a rate that isn't sustainable. After some debate, he declares his one-time-use WAAGGH, and decides to try and go for the charge on me.

I'm sitting at about 21" away, including through ruins, which means that Marc will lose -2 inches when he tries to charge me through terrain. It's do or die time, baby! That means that Marc needs 23" of movement to hit my tide!

Marc moves his 6". If he rolls anything less then a 5, he automatically can't make the charge.



He then tries to charge....





I guarantee the entire hall heard the cry that came from Marc. He probably jumped 3 feet into the air after seeing that.

I overwatch, but it is pitiful, and my Tide is now stuck in combat with a much bigger, better, meaner, stronger tide.

This just got really, really, really bad.



You can just see the carnage here. Boyz EVERYWHERE. While the combat was going on, the Tankbustas went around and went ahead and did their job of killing the Grots in Marc's backfield, putting me up 2 KP to his 0.

And for the rest of the game, all that was done was just dice. Dice EVERYWHERE. It was the top of 3, and the combat went until the top of 5, meaning 5 rounds of combat with 200+ guys hitting each other, then rolling to wound, then rolling saves, then rolling FNP. Me and Marc did some quick math - we rolled somewhere around 10,000 dice. Literally thousands and thousands of dice were rolled.

Basically, the combat broke down like this. Marc had me in bodies, number of attacks, and in saves, but my Lucky Stikk was CLUTCH. Hitting Marc on 3's was HUGE, and it singlehandedly allowed me to do a ton of damage to his tide.

The final result?



However, not all is lost - I have one last chance to shoot him off the board.







We roll the dice and.....





After-Game Thoughts:

omg that is ridiculous game

AHA! It's always hilarious when grots pull such feats! Your plan on the whole was absolutely right, i think.

Great game. Although, i'm a bit disappointed that you had to face another greentide early on.

What a brilliant game. Love it.

So inspiring *small tear slides down cheek*. ...... Think I'll have to gather my own tide

A proper Orky scrap! Awesome!