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2015/04/26 01:37:44
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Will the expansions also be plastic?
Or will the superheavies be in resin?
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2015/04/26 01:54:47
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fighter Pilot
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Cyporiean wrote:Polyurethane, Polysytrene, and Polyvinyl are all Plastic.
'Plastic' doesn't always mean HIPS.
That's a good point, sorry, I hadn't even considered that one. I believe that it is HIPs, but as you've pointed out, the info they've given does not conclusively prove that. I will do my best to find out whether it is or isn't and get that info back to here as soon as possible.
BobtheInquisitor wrote:Will the expansions also be plastic?
Or will the superheavies be in resin?
At this point, I just don't know. Given gamers' preference for plastic and what I see to be a very big-time opportunity for Spartan Games, it's a big hope of mine that it is all plastic, but I'll shoot an email to some Spartan guys and try and get back to you ASAP.
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2015/04/26 02:01:03
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fixture of Dakka
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I do honestly hope that they are HIPS.
I like the Halo universe's designs, and HIPS would push me towards picking some stuff up. Definitely going to spend some time looking at the stuff at Gen Con.
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2015/04/26 02:01:23
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Their resin is quite good, so I don't think that's an issue really, but confirmation either way would be great!
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2015/04/26 02:08:59
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fighter Pilot
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Cyporiean wrote:I do honestly hope that they are HIPS.
I like the Halo universe's designs, and HIPS would push me towards picking some stuff up. Definitely going to spend some time looking at the stuff at Gen Con.
Haha, hopefully you bring back more pictures here!
RiTides wrote:Their resin is quite good, so I don't think that's an issue really, but confirmation either way would be great!
I've sent out my little tendrils to a few people, some Spartan affiliated and others that spoke to them at Salute, hopefully it won't be long for a reply!
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2015/04/26 02:09:19
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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OMG. That 15 MM scale!
Oh yes more please!!! My poor wallet!
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2015/04/26 02:09:55
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dang it... why did I peek in here. I told myself I'd stick to 40K, GW specialist games, and X-Wing... so much for that.
*stockpiles bottle caps*
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2015/04/26 02:10:33
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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RiTides wrote:Their resin is quite good, so I don't think that's an issue really, but confirmation either way would be great!
Maybe it is now, but not when I bought a bunch of FSA and Uncharted Seas minis. The resin was terribly warped, unevenly shrunken, misaligned and craggy. Their metal had that Edward James Olmos texture, too. I will not buy another Spartan resin again, so it matters quite a bit to me.
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2015/04/26 02:19:11
Subject: Pre-order Halo: Fleet Battles today (25/04/15) for FREE bust!
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Fighter Pilot
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DrRansom wrote:Did anyone catch how the ships were arranged on the flight stands? It looks like each ship is magnetized, but can anyone confirm that?
Also, did anyone find out what was in the release box? Will there be Orbital MACs or the Assault Carrier? The scale difference between the Assault Carrier and the UNSC frigates and cruisers is awesome
This really is the year for space combat games. I like the difference between Armada (detailed capital ships, with few capital ships) and Fleet Battles, which looks like it supports quite a few large ships.
I can confirm the ships are magnetised:
Stormwall wrote:OMG. That 15 MM scale!
Oh yes more please!!! My poor wallet!
Mine is crying, so very, very hard at this point
djphranq wrote:Dang it... why did I peek in here. I told myself I'd stick to 40K, GW specialist games, and X-Wing... so much for that.
*stockpiles bottle caps*
Too late! No takesie-backsies, you've seen them, you're lost. Don't pretend you can resist, it's just not worth it
BobtheInquisitor wrote: RiTides wrote:Their resin is quite good, so I don't think that's an issue really, but confirmation either way would be great!
Maybe it is now, but not when I bought a bunch of FSA and Uncharted Seas minis. The resin was terribly warped, unevenly shrunken, misaligned and craggy. Their metal had that Edward James Olmos texture, too. I will not buy another Spartan resin again, so it matters quite a bit to me.
That's sad to hear, I will find out about expansions and superheavies though and am happy to message you when I do, if you'd like?
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2015/04/26 02:20:53
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Quality is better on the resin stuff, but they still are bad with metal. I have a huge bag of replacement parts. That´s the reason Planetfall has so few stuff in metal and why there are fewer moving parts (compared with DW).
That would be infuriating. If a company released Halo in only Spanish, I would be so annoyed. Hopefully Spartan Games will realise Halo is popular in other parts of the world too, and translate it.
Not that a lot of distributors with a track record of good translations not tried to. Also they do not allow fan translations. Always saying that they can´t assure the quality of their rules when translated.
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2015/04/26 02:23:30
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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ONI-S3, I would appreciate that. Thank you.
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2015/04/26 02:34:17
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I just want to paint up a pillar of autumn. (And yes, I realize the fluff reasons as to why I can't.)
Super stoked! fething Maelstrom and now this? Right after the Terra Marines from Titanforge?
Ohnoeessss4mybank.jpg
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2015/04/26 02:38:58
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fighter Pilot
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Duncan_Idaho wrote:Quality is better on the resin stuff, but they still are bad with metal. I have a huge bag of replacement parts. That´s the reason Planetfall has so few stuff in metal and why there are fewer moving parts (compared with DW).
That would be infuriating. If a company released Halo in only Spanish, I would be so annoyed. Hopefully Spartan Games will realise Halo is popular in other parts of the world too, and translate it.
Not that a lot of distributors with a track record of good translations not tried to. Also they do not allow fan translations. Always saying that they can´t assure the quality of their rules when translated.
Haha, yes, I have not seen a buggy translation yet! And of course they don't, all fans are silly and unable to do such things. We need a professional to maintain our high rate of typos, amateurs just wouldn't hit the mark! (looking at you, Mantic)
BobtheInquisitor wrote:ONI-S3, I would appreciate that. Thank you.
No problem
Stormwall wrote:I just want to paint up a pillar of autumn. (And yes, I realize the fluff reasons as to why I can't.)
Super stoked! fething Maelstrom and now this? Right after the Terra Marines from Titanforge?
Ohnoeessss4mybank.jpg
Haha, I know the pain. But why can't you have the Pillar of Autumn at the Fall of Reach? It was there. Unless you mean a literal pillar of autumn, which was not present. In fairness though, neither were the pillars of winter, spring or summer, so I don't know why you're singling out autumn
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2015/04/26 02:41:18
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh? I feel so stupid, I forgot this was set in reach. I'm stuck in Halo 5 readiness mode.
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2015/04/26 02:46:59
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fighter Pilot
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No dramas, it's always good seeing more fans of the lore
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2015/04/26 09:50:22
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I can say it is definately a 15mm game for the ground combat, I can also say that yes the bases are designed with the ability to change and swap "elements" in mind, so you can have frigates break off to escort Cruisers/Carriers etc etc or vice versa.. Adding to that, yes, they are all plastic, NOT resin and to my knowledge won't be pre-painted, it is not infact Spartan Games producing the models, but another company that produces plastics, in order so that Halo won't affect their in-house production output, Spartan is just designing the models and doing the rules. *Turns off the lights and skulks back to his corner.*
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2015/04/26 10:09:33
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Thanks for the info! With regards to the 'swapping' of frigates ect, is that something that can happen in game, or just for pre-game options? Being able to reassign a Frigate to protect a Cruiser ect in the game itself.
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2015/04/26 10:21:45
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hmmmm.. I never asked specifically or recall being told specifically, so can't say right now i'm afraid, but the idea is definately that they can change formations and that is why the bases can be swapped about as such. I got an impression that it was designed with the ability to have formations potentially change and adjust during the game itself, but that's only impression, so could be wrong there.
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2015/04/26 12:55:15
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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I'd be surprised if you can change formation since it's printed on the base. Maybe their magnetized to be removed as casualties?
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2015/04/26 13:07:57
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Except the box only comes with one Epoch, and pics show bases and formations for one both with/without an escort.
I'm hoping the baseplate is swappable like in Xwing, with the escorted versions of ships having the extra hole for a frigate's flight stand to go through into a hole in the plastic base. A super-easy way to upgrade cruiser elements.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2015/04/26 13:07:59
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It could be you switch out bases in order to change formation if they are magnetised?
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2015/04/26 13:11:56
Subject: Re:Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I'd be surprised if they were magnetized when for loads simpler the flight stands could just plug into holes in the base.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2015/04/26 15:46:00
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It works like this, the formation center/print bit is entirely swappable, thus to change formation you just pull it out and put in the new formation you want, pegs and all.
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2015/04/26 15:47:50
Subject: Pre-order Halo: Fleet Battles today (25/04/15) for FREE bust!
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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ONI-S3 wrote:
The Flood would add heaps! I think fleshing them out would be amazing. I agree Forerunner ships would be so harsh, but maybe they'll make them as ultra powerful ships. Given their size, I can see it being financially viable for a limited run, providing they're at a premium price. I will admit, however, that this is my inner fan hopes potentially biasing my perception.
You don't understand the size difference. Some Forerunners ships, using the scale, would still be larger than a human.
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2015/04/26 16:19:45
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Dankhold Troggoth
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GenRifDrake wrote:I can say it is definately a 15mm game for the ground combat, I can also say that yes the bases are designed with the ability to change and swap "elements" in mind, so you can have frigates break off to escort Cruisers/Carriers etc etc or vice versa.. Adding to that, yes, they are all plastic, NOT resin and to my knowledge won't be pre-painted, it is not infact Spartan Games producing the models, but another company that produces plastics, in order so that Halo won't affect their in-house production output, Spartan is just designing the models and doing the rules. *Turns off the lights and skulks back to his corner.*
Could you come out of the corner for a second again and say where you got this info?
I see you said plastic, do you know if it's on a sprue (HIPs, high impact polystyrene) or not (meaning PVC or another plastic material, like is common with board games, or CMON/Mantic/Privateer Press models). HIPs seems unlikely but I like what I'm hearing so far, regardless!
Also any word on release date for the ground game, and if it's made from the same material / by the same manufacturer?
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2015/04/26 17:27:47
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The two Halo tables at Salute were basically divided into a demo table with the contents of the starter set, and a "coming soon" table with the Pillar of Autumn, Covie assault carriers, MAC platforms etc.
Everything in Halo: Fleet Battles is going to be made in plastic. The huge assault carriers at the show were actually resin (I tried to lift one and it had a fair bit of weight to it), but Derek from SG confirmed that it'll be plastic on release.
On the subject of bases, they're not magnetised. Each flight peg simply slots into a hole on the base (much like X-Wing) and you can use different bases to change up formations.
From what I gathered talking to various Spartan bods at Salute, HFB is not going to only have two factions, and it looks like the Flood and Forerunners are going to make an appearance in plastic at some point.
Oh, and about the ground game, I heard "sometime next year". Take from that what you will.
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2015/04/26 17:51:37
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Cannor wrote:
Oh, and about the ground game, I heard "sometime next year". Take from that what you will.
I take from that a nice sense of relief that I have a year to collect a fleet or two before the ground stuff steals all my money!
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2015/04/26 19:00:14
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Been Around the Block
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One thought about wave 1 expansions, I'd like Spartan Games to include some smaller ships as well, another UNSC destroyer or Covenant destroyer.
As small ships will be the most common on the table-top, I think it would be good to have greater variation there.
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2015/04/26 19:43:21
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I wonder how they've balanced this game, given that UNSC ships usually get their asses kicked pretty hard by the Covenant.
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2015/04/26 20:32:38
Subject: Pic Heavy - Halo Ground Combat pics from Salute! Halo: Fleet Battles pics and video in first post
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Fresh-Faced New User
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angelofvengeance wrote:I wonder how they've balanced this game, given that UNSC ships usually get their asses kicked pretty hard by the Covenant.
In the books, the UNSC were capable of winning with the use of superior tactics and/or numbers. Numerical superiority is easy to do, just have the UNSC ships cost fewer points (and you can tell from the screenshots that this appears to be a direction theyve taken). As for superior tactics, they could possibly make the UNSC Admirals' abilities better than the Covenant Fleet Masters'?
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