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 Davespil wrote:
Where did the IA: Tau vs Mechanicus rumor come from? Were there any other details posted with it?

It was from the sculptor of the "Supremacy" battlesuit at FW's Open Day this year.

Not from Lords of Wargaming, but Tau rumours nontheless.

From Bols: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/40k-tau-empire-release-products.html

September 12th

A “big” release (unknown if related to Tau Empire, but could be)

September 19th

Codex Tau Empire

Tau Empire Datacards

Tau Empire Painting Guide

New Plastic Battlesuit Commander (in a new size of package)

Anonymous source on Faeit212: http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2015/08/two-new-suits-for-tau.html

The Tau Codex is coming, but no real ETA I can share at the moment. In it Tau will get 2 new suits, one larger than a riptide, another smaller than a riptide.

Updated thread title.

Well, no sense having two, I'll flag a mod to take the other down.

Oh good. A painting guide. It'd be nice to have one for Tau as I'm not entirely sure what paints they use for their skin (My friend plays Tau so I have killed a few in games- going to put heads on some of my Necron bases)

I think Shadow grey(fenris grey) is what is used on the skin. That's how I paint mine anyways.

I'm still on the old colours, so I use codex grey with an asurmen blue wash when I have to do skin. Which I try to avoid as much as possible, Tau are the last army that should be running round without full armour.

I'll just drop this here.. fresh from BoLS

Looks like new suits... Look at the torsos- looks like a much more poseable torso. The leg joints look better too..

Personally, as a very long time tau player my hope for a new book is the same for every codex: a strong book, which supports many different builds/play styles.

The current book, while having some very strong units - suffers greatly from internal balance and flexibility.

This is a result from a lack of many options limited to few units, some units exceptionally good, and many units not very good.
(many pieces of wargear or critical weapons are not available in more than a couple (or in some cases, only one) units).

This leads to tau players not having as much flexibility in their builds, and opponents of tau, becoming frustrated or annoyed in facing some of the same strong units.
(kind of like getting tired of grav weapons when you face marines....).

There are the obvious suspects - that need improvement to enhance the diversity of our lists, but even more so than buffing the terrible units - I just wish they would include the forgeworld units. The designs are amazing, and the models are just plain gorgeous.
(a plastic barracuda kit, would be like printing money for gw stockholders).

We will see how well gw knows their customers - sadly, their track record on this is not the best.

Here is hoping its as good as the marine codex (supports tons of builds) but not as good as the eldar (no commnet necessary).

Tau Crisis suits finally look like the box art.


The missile pods look really functional as well.

I assume they'll be a box of two kids of like the new Mechanicus robots?

THOSE ARE NOT NEW.

They're conversions which are in Farsight Enclaves.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'll just drop this here.. fresh from BoLS

Looks like new suits...

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120113026_CrisisTeam01.jpg

http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/tau-crisis-maybe.jpg]

The bottom picture is from the Farsight Enclaves supplement.

What are they converted from exactly?

The legs, well the "hips" aren't from the crisis suit.

Finecast Commander kit? Because they look complete different to me.



I'd love to see some proof that these are conversions, the one on the top left looks a bit like a broadside but has a different chest piece that maybe represents that 2+ armour upgrade that I can't remember the name of.

I WANT TO BELIEVE.

Armour plating on the legs is different. Doesn't look to be a conversion from where I'm sitting..

There are lots of ways that people have converted Crisis suits.
This has some of the more common features.

The midsection is just cut apart and fitted with a spacer.
The "bicep" is cut and fitted with another spacer.

The Missile pod is beefed up with the body of a burst cannon. You can see the "discharge" port and the cylinder at the back.

It's not a new suit. Though I'm confused about the conversion in the upper left from a Broadside.

Some of these have been around for a while.

I think they are old conversions of the guy who designed the new suits - I think they were in an old blog, or a white dwarf etc.

He had collars on this crisis suits, and that later showed up in the broadside design. I remember the article where he talked about designing the broadsides, and the new riptide.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
There are lots of ways that people have converted Crisis suits.
This has some of the more common features.

The midsection is just cut apart and fitted with a spacer.
The "bicep" is cut and fitted with another spacer.

The Missile pod is beefed up with the body of a burst cannon. You can see the "discharge" port and the cylinder at the back.

It's not a new suit. Though I'm confused about the conversion in the upper left from a Broadside.

I guess we'll all find out then won't we?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

I guess we'll all find out then won't we?

Yup, we'll find out if GW went through the expense and effort to make a core plastic kit for the iconic figure in a line that was getting a new codex for the first time in 10 years, decided to picture it in the supplement that came out a month later, and then proceeded to not make any money on it by not releasing it for the next 2-3 years. Yup, we'll see.

From ATT, posted by Mark Tait aka warhound who is friends with several of the GW studio crew including Matt Holland (who built the suits in that picture). Several of Matt's old conversions had influence on the revised designs for the Broadside and Fine cast Commander. Matt sculpted the newer finecast Commander Farsight model and the Riptide.

Hey guys

to nip this in the bud, these suits are the creation of Mr Matt Holland of Riptide, Farsight and Pathfinder fame.

I have actually held them in the flesh, and while nice conversions, are not the suits that you are looking for.

I would anticipate that MH will be working on (or would have worked on the suits when they were done months ago) in a similar vein to these,.... but they will look different to these!

Now, lets settle in and await the stomp of something heavier.

thanks
Warhound

http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19686&sid=e447dd0868a8b42786518ae56aac5cca&p=296467#p296467



These were some of Matt's old conversions that were originally hosted on the GW website back in the day before he was brought on with the studio. You'll note that the missile launcher uses the exact same burst cannon bits in it's conversion but the shown ones below are 7-8 years old (at least). It's all his conversion work and not an official kit that's been hidden in plain site for 2 years...

BoLS strikes again I guess..

They got their clicks. Mission Accomplished!

 warboss wrote:
They got their clicks. Mission Accomplished!

Exalted.

BoLS is claiming that the picture is in the supplement but it crops out the suit in the top left.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/40k-breaking-new-tau-suit-spotted.html
There were reports that these images were from the 2 year old Farsight Enclave supplemental codex. We have looked through every page of the digital version and found this:



Which is certainly the same models and the same photo, but it was cropped differently to cut out the models that showed up today on the far left. So the jury is still out as those models do look like either new models or absolutely top shelf conversions.

I think everyone in the community has an itchy trigger-finger these days regarding new 40K releases.

Disappointing.

Hilarious, these photos were making the rounds last week and now BoLS posts them--and then has to make a retraction the same day.


Suck it, BoLS.

Someone should just take that computer off Larry Vela. He's so FoLS

BOLS is too eager to pass on any possible rumors usually without doing much digging to verify facts, hence why I place very little faith in their posts. :/

It's not hard to make a functional waist on the stock kit, all you need is some plastic card and greenstuff. Some people use a fire warrior shoulder pad as a groin plate (or you grab one of the icon "cogs" from a stealth suit which I think is used on ones pictured in the farsight codex) You can also use a pair of shield generators for the hip connection, which is a conversion I've done to make several kits look like this:

Can someone change the title of this thread to "definitely not new suits"

That conversion is slick. Looks like it would be a "drone suit" imho. Completely AI controlled. Perhaps running in formation with a Tau piloted crisis suit.

I'm hopeful that the new Crisis suits will be based off of those conversions like the new Broadside clearly was.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Can someone change the title of this thread to "definitely not new suits"

That would be an improvement from "Poaaiblw New Crisis Suits". Pretre, were you drinking and thread updating at the same time?


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 paulson games wrote:
BOLS is too eager to pass on any possible rumors usually without doing much digging to verify facts, hence why I place very little faith in their posts. :/

It's not hard to make a functional waist on the stock kit, all you need is some plastic card and greenstuff. Some people use a fire warrior shoulder pad as a groin plate (or you grab one of the icon "cogs" from a stealth suit which I think is used on ones pictured in the farsight codex) You can also use a pair of shield generators for the hip connection, which is a conversion I've done to make several kits look like this:

Spoiler:

Looks very cool. Did you start with the xv84 Forgeworld suit or make the various knee/shoulder pads from scratch?

 warboss wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Can someone change the title of this thread to "definitely not new suits"

That would be an improvement from "Poaaiblw New Crisis Suits". Pretre, were you drinking and thread updating at the same time?

I've changed it a couple times and it keeps changing back.