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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 14:07:11
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Someone opened Pandora's box again:
Hi Everyone! We've gotten the forums back online - but it's just a temporary measure. The whole site is in the process of a huge redesign and one of the things that is holding us up is an ability to port the old forum content to a new forum.
That said - there is so much going on and we've had so many requests from people to get back to the forums - that we want to turn them back on. They're not ideal at this point - but they should work. So have at it!
Link here:
http://defiancegames.com/forum/index
This was published yesterday on their facebook.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/20 23:30:04
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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The gods are angry at us...
Release the Valera!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 00:17:35
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Yeah, like that won't get shut down pretty quickly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 06:56:37
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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With regards to the shoulder mounted HMG, I think it would work better as a shoulter mounted beam weapon, kind of like the laser rifles seen in the movie version of Akira. Yeah, if I get these, that's how I'll be using them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 10:44:40
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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Barzam wrote:With regards to the shoulder mounted HMG, I think it would work better as a shoulter mounted beam weapon, kind of like the laser rifles seen in the movie version of Akira. Yeah, if I get these, that's how I'll be using them.
And these beam weapons are so vastly expensive that the rest of the squad is issued antique AK-47s to cut back on costs.
I'll stick with my poor design theory. It seems to fit Defiance better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 13:38:19
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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in defense of Defiance (hmm...), I'm pretty sure those rifles aren't AK's, but are instead the Type-03 5.8mm assault rifle recently adopted by the PLA. The Type-03 is based on the Type-81, which was in turn based on the Kalashnikov. However, despite the similar overall appearance, they are quite different.
http://world.guns.ru/assault/ch/type-03--qbz-03-e.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 15:51:26
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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So I was given the option to switch out my JRAB's for a squad of Chinese (same price) since the JRAB was being held up. Said order just shipped today, so sometime next week I should be able to post pictures of the real product. I'll try to my best to take good pictures, but don't put too much faith is either my crappy Nikon or my own skills, 'k?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 19:09:26
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Oh Xeno, you'll never see the end of the vitriol we'll spout all over you, man...
Dude, I think you can do better than Tony's shaky cam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 19:22:12
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Posted in wrong thread
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 19:47:18
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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oops
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 20:31:46
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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I think he meant to post in the Raging Heroes thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 20:31:49
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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I reckon he probably posted in the wrong thread, DF has stated they aren't going to do a Kickstarter I think.
Anyway, the 'Iron Empire' is from this kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy/posts?page=2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 20:40:41
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You're right, It was a post in the wrong thread, I'll edit it out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/21 23:37:16
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:Oh Xeno, you'll never see the end of the vitriol we'll spout all over you, man...
Dude, I think you can do better than Tony's shaky cam.
Hell, I might even paint some of them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 03:55:28
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Just do us a favour: thin the paints a bit, rather than give us the Defiance thick and bumpy.
Apparently all Chinese pre-orders (save one order) have shipped out.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they are, maybe, turning things around?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 05:22:04
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I'd wait until they arrive in good condition before I said that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 15:46:03
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Fair enough. They did mention the Battle Egg as being on their roadmap. Although I want better pictures to see if the details remain interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 20:28:07
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Gargantuan Gargant
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G.I.JOE has laser shooting rifles that looked like M16s for a decade. The Defiance Games models with modern looking rifles, didn't even phase me.
A long barrel, a trigger, a grip, a clip, a stock, all = Gun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/23 21:47:39
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Supposedly somebody already has them because they have pics up of a guy who converted his Chinese to be guardsmen on their facebook
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 02:21:54
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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so it sounds like they're at least on track with production on these. That's good. Let's hope their QC is up to standards as well though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 02:35:24
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I think the guy converting them would have published something if they were horribly misshaped, bubbled or missing parts. At least I assume.
Maybe they were a test run?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 05:33:23
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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He could be in Massachusetts, where Defiance is. Mine got to Albuquerque the day after they shipped and should be in the mailbox in 12.5 hours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 05:40:12
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Cool. Interested to see what they look like.
Despite all the drama and crap that has followed this company, I'd still like to see them get back on track, even if I've lost interest in their products.
I will say that I am not a fan of the Chinese bicycle helmets, but other than that they look pretty good. The AK 47's in space was an in joke on the old forum if I remember right.
I honestly wonder how many of the people that know that joke are still around to get it.
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 07:20:45
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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With those helmets, I'm sure they're including non helmetted heads as well. My Germans, and I assume the Americans as well came with alternate heads wearing caps, so these guys should as well. That should make them look better, actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 15:50:24
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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There was one head without a helmet, and a single head with hair. Not quite enough to allow yourself a lot of diversity.
I'm thinking this is one of the things they'll fix with the female marines release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 17:47:44
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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A nice thing about the Marine is that they are at the exact perfect scale to match most of Wargames Factory's offerings in terms of parts swapping (understandable since every set before the Shock Trooper heavy weapons and part of the greeks was designed by the same guy as the Marines), and should match up fairly well with Warlord Games as well. The Germans are a little smaller, but should be too bad and, if the Chinese are in a similar scale, they too should match up.
This means you'll have loads of options. I should be able tell you more a little later this afternoon when mine arrive in the mail.
Edit: Heh heh, speak of the devil. A box arrived with two squads of Chinese infantry as replacements for the UAMC and JRAB boxes I ordered.
So, quick first impressions before I take a nap (since I got off of work at 7:00 this morning.
Overall, they're not too bad. The scuplts are clean, uncomplicated, and well-enough done. Also quite clearly done in green stuff, rather than digital. There are some bubbles, particular on the gun stocks of the single piece figures holding rifles, and on the underside of the figures. Everyone of the kneeling figures I examined also had the toe of its right boot (the one pointing towards the ground) missing. However, a little green stuff can fix these guys up easily enough -- they are a maze of fine details and small parts.
One real problem is the heads: there was noticeable mold slippage that resulted in lopsided heads. Since the faces are divided down the middle, this means lopsided faces. However, I should have enough salvageable heads to assemble a squad; the mold slippage seems to be a real problem only with the helmeted heads. The caps are fine.
However, to their credit, the facial features are carved quite deep so it should be a snap for a crap painted like myself to make them look semi-decent.
My initial impression: these are not display minis by any stretch of the imagination, but they'll get the job done.
I'll give a more detailed analysis, including pouring over the second set, and maybe paint a couple, after my nap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 14:11:28
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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The ColtArmz-GE M3A is the premier personal hardbeam squad support weapon in the United Americas military arsenal.
The M3A is an automatic targeting, recoilless light energy weapon system that emits a 28mm hard laser beam capable of penetrating most known man-made materials.
The M3A is integrated with an exo-skeletal locking support system worn by its gunner on both left and right arms. The exo-sys not only supports the weapons weight but also provides a stable firing platform.
"The M3A is a scary weapon mano. You light some Imp or Kraut up with an M-2800 or the trusty ole' M-46 and you just see them fall down. Not the beam. This baby puts a 28mm HOLE through the target. You see some gomer pop up, autotargetting locks, you squeeze the trigger and you see driggin' DAYLIGHT through them! I'm not bubbly on this mano. You see the HOLE before they plant."
- Private First Class Carmen Jenette, M3A Gunner
You'll see more of the M3A and PFC Jenette with our Female Marines.
From their facebook page today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 15:12:55
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Is there a pic to accompany that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 16:06:30
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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nope
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 16:43:20
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Painting Within the Lines
Western PA
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There is a pic of the new shipping container they are going to sell soon, though.
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The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.
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