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So wait, given the 2:1 ratio of size classes, wouldn't that put a single quad as a good match against 8 raptors? That...seems overkill, but also marvelous...

Don't get me wrong, I aim to pick up at least three Raptors and Goshawks each.


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 doc1234 wrote:
So wait, given the 2:1 ratio of size classes, wouldn't that put a single quad as a good match against 8 raptors?

I haven't finished reading the rules much less playtested them but I don't have the impression that the balance is so simple.

It's not. But if a quad *were* to connect with a light mecha, there wouldn't be anything left to betray that it was there. The saving grace of the lights is that they are really fast, hence hard to hit. Last game, I had a lucky shot which pretty much immobilized a heavy mecha, so my lights go to hitting it from behind... with machine guns. Sure, it was a waste of sensor pods, but gosh was it fun.


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Oh and from the playtest, the Osprey A and C are particularly good mecha, but so is the Wolverine. To my taste, anyway.

Books? Did somebody say books?

So, does the addition of printed rule books as add-ons mean that you consider the rules fully-playtested and complete?

 Forar wrote:
Also, even with an Oct/Nov delivery date, there's a non-zero chance I'll get my Mecha Front stuff before I get RRT's first wave.

Which works on just so many levels.

Nonzero? I'd say the odds of getting your Mecha Front mechs first, even with delays, are 1. Give or take a few thousandths of a percent.

 JoshInJapan wrote:
So, does the addition of printed rule books as add-ons mean that you consider the rules fully-playtested and complete?

At this exact moment no. It will still take me a month or two to finish them, but they will be complete by the time the KS ships.

I do have a significant amount of material beyond what is available in the current 1.4 verison.


Release a poorly finished unplaytested product? I think maybe you have this confused with the Palladium forum

 Manchu wrote:
I wonder, do magnets also come with add-on 15mm mecha?

 Manchu wrote:
Also, can we expect a Blackfrost deck and M-weapon packs?

From the update: "All 15mm mecha" so yes that would include the add-ons

Blackfrost stuff will be on the way

Man, you're really going at it. The rules too? It makes sense, because you don't want people to just buy for the shinies, like some other "purely minis kickstarters" have done. *cough* Raging Heroes

Let's get cracking, people!

The digital version will remain free for backers, all the core game mechanics will be exactly the same but it might not have all the same pretty pictures that the book does. Plus the books give something physical for people to take to the store or read by the flames of desolation when technology fails us.

Bummer that the mechs don't already have holes for the magnets, is there no way to add the holes prior to casting?

I'll pre-drill your mecha for you, RiTides, if that is the *only* thing stopping you!

Well it's not a problem for me anyway because I pledged for some 6mm ones (metal and I wouldn't magnetize at that size anyway).

Depending on how the part is positioned in the molds it'd be possible to make about half of the slots molded into the design but it can cause difficulties with the lifespan of the molds and potential trap points for bubbles. I may be able to make small imprints that can at least be used as a center point guide.

Certain parts like the arm weapons the connection point doubles as a vent or entrance for the resin so there's no realistic way they can have pre-made slots. I've racked my brains and I just can't figure out a correct way to implement the slots. The up side if that the resin is very easy to work with and both 3mm and 5mm bits for making slots are very easy to come by.

Also the Blackfrost medium weapon pack is now up.

 Forar wrote:
It's a situation where some of us have to laugh, otherwise we'd cry.

Discussing 'the rules' (as we understand them and one dude has cobbled together along with a love of Battletech) in the RRT thread is... it's painful, guys.

Don't worry others feel this pain too. I have been fighting an, apparently already lost, battle against the LOS rules for some time. Though I would say the RRT facebook page has had more painful rules "discussions" (well, discussions period).

@Paulson- Flipped through the rules. If I am understanding correctly, then I like the way cover is treated. Instead of modifiers or "saves"; it just is the first thing to be blown up. That is real cool.

Yes that's the basics of how cover works. Everything is largely handled by true line of sight. If a part is obscured, the object blocking the line of sight is hit instead and almost all cover in the game is destructible if you do enough damage. Sometimes the best way to establish line of sight is to blast the crap out of the buildings in the way, plus destroying cities during the game is a lot of fun.

When higher strength missiles are let loose it typically turns good chunks of the board into a open killing field.

 paulson games wrote:
Yes that's the basics of how cover works. Everything is largely handled by true line of sight. If a part is obscured, the object blocking the line of sight is hit instead and almost all cover in the game is destructible if you do enough damage. Sometimes the best way to establish line of sight is to blast the crap out of the buildings in the way.

Now that is TLOS I can get behind: "Can you see me mech behind this building?" "Not really. So let me blast the heck out of it until I can."; Who needs 25% obscured when you can just shoot that 25% away first.

I have to give the rules a better read through than the quick scan I gave between classes.

 Ironwill13791 wrote:
Now that is TLOS I can get behind

Actually, I believe the point is that you can't get behind it for long....

Great first post, Abraxus (I really mean that)

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 Ironwill13791 wrote:
Now that is TLOS I can get behind

Actually, I believe the point is that you can't get behind it for long....

I see what you did there....

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Abraxus wrote:

 Ironwill13791 wrote:
Now that is TLOS I can get behind

Actually, I believe the point is that you can't get behind it for long....

You got me. Nice one.

I just wanted to chime in to say I had a good look at a number of these models at Adepticon and they had a really good scale to them. The casting on the freebie model was first rate, very sharp and bubble free as well. I'm glad this is going so well because it will be an exciting one to watch!

How did I miss the freebie at Adepticon! Now I'm sad....

 Hulksmash wrote:
How did I miss the freebie at Adepticon! Now I'm sad....

Ah!

Same here!

So sad...

Lego & I are part of the Super Bestest Mecha Front Fans Club.

@Hulk / Alph- I was thinking the same thing! Lol, now I really feel bad about not finding him when he had his setup in place

Me too!

... Ignoring the fact I wasn't at adepticon. >.>

 paulson games wrote:
I may be able to make small imprints that can at least be used as a center point guide.

I'll double my pledge if you work out how to do this.
And it'd convince me to do 15mm.

rigeld2 wrote:

 paulson games wrote:
I may be able to make small imprints that can at least be used as a center point guide.

I'll double my pledge if you work out how to do this.
And it'd convince me to do 15mm.

I might not double but I think this is a great idea on the 6mm. Even a dip for where to start the drill is perfect honestly. I can drill myself, getting the hold in the right spot without slippage is the major issue