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 Fayric wrote:
Why would they go for cataphractii terminators rather than tartaros? Feels like the tartaros phoenix guardians quickly became iconic for the 30k EC.
But then again, perhaps that is exactly why they dont want to do a kit that would easily substitute the resin models.

They did it to the Thousand Sons, too. Their Heresy-era Terminators wear Cataphracti, but the modern Scarab Occults wear Tartaros.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/07/what-can-the-new-codex-chaos-space-marines-detachments-do-for-you/

NM.

i have a feeling that CSM having eight detachments is going to ensure that the army is continuously good throughout the edition. with so many options for rules and so many options for models, i'm sure there's always going to be some configuration of the army that's playable

Typo aside, the strongest thing in that whole mix is renegade raiders with their assault+extra AP.

I've noticed the GS Cults Combat Patrol is listed as 'No longer available online' on GW's UK site, and seemingly out of stock in third party retailers in the UK. Still available off the GW US site, but noting they been replacing combat patrol boxes as factions come out, I'd question if that one will get a restock before it is formally replaced, so if you want one I'd grab it while / if you can find it.

 Dawnbringer wrote:
I've noticed the GS Cults Combat Patrol is listed as 'No longer available online' on GW's UK site, and seemingly out of stock in third party retailers in the UK. Still available off the GW US site, but noting they been replacing combat patrol boxes as factions come out, I'd question if that one will get a restock before it is formally replaced, so if you want one I'd grab it while / if you can find it.

Very likely not getting another restock on the GW webstore at this point but if you are primarly interested in it because of the Goliath like me, the boxset that should be coming with their codex is rumoured to have two of them inside in addition to Neophytes and Aberrants. So unless you want the Acolyte Hybrids/Magus its probably better to wait.
Of course that assumes that you will be able to get the boxset in the first place

I got lucky with a perpetually out of stock Chaos Marine combat patrol getting a restock two weeks ago. No guarantees that the same might happen if you're looking for Genestealer Cults, but you never know what's still in the system waiting to get delivered to independent stores. May be worth keeping an eye on until the new codex is actually coming.

Tau points seem to be up on the app:

fireblade +10
farsight +15
breachers+10
devilfish+10
broadsides +20ppm
kroot +20
farstalkers+15
riptides+15
Skyray +10
fireknife 150
starscythe 130
sunforge 170
rampagers 110 for 3
flesh shaper 55
lone spear 90
trail shaper 65
war shaper 60
Tetras legended.

 Geifer wrote:
I got lucky with a perpetually out of stock Chaos Marine combat patrol getting a restock two weeks ago. No guarantees that the same might happen if you're looking for Genestealer Cults, but you never know what's still in the system waiting to get delivered to independent stores. May be worth keeping an eye on until the new codex is actually coming.

Shameless self promotion, but the Loot Group covers OOP Combat Patrols and equivalent. You’d be surprised how often they turn up gathering dust on a FGLS’ shelf.

You get your toys, FLGS gets their money, Looter gets their warm and fuzzies from being a good person

I'm hoping that Marks of Chaos can do more in the codex than they do right now. Nurgle Marines, for example, should have some kind of resilience ability. Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I'm hoping that Marks of Chaos can do more in the codex than they do right now. Nurgle Marines, for example, should have some kind of resilience ability. Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

It’s probably because squads of rubrik matines can take 9 Warp Flamers, in a squad.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I'm hoping that Marks of Chaos can do more in the codex than they do right now. Nurgle Marines, for example, should have some kind of resilience ability. Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

I would prepare to be disappointed I think. Those sorts of marks need a point cost per unit because of how wildly they very in effectiveness per body.

Looks like they're dropping all the Tau Forge World items except the very biggest stuff: Manta, Ta'unar, Tiger Sharks.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I'm hoping that Marks of Chaos can do more in the codex than they do right now. Nurgle Marines, for example, should have some kind of resilience ability. Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

The only Tzeentch unit that *would* be able to is Rubric Marines, which can take 10 AP-2 flamers. Do *you* want to put that evil out in the world?

(Chaos Marks are for a different detachment, so it's not like you have to worry about a Legionary squad marked Tzeentch being denied this boon)

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

The fluff is kind of stupid anyway. Traitors are so angry and bitter they pull the flamer trigger real hard. Huh?
And with that fluff, rubrics are dust, they cant psych up themself to rage-flame their opponents.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Why would they go for cataphractii terminators rather than tartaros? Feels like the tartaros phoenix guardians quickly became iconic for the 30k EC.
But then again, perhaps that is exactly why they dont want to do a kit that would easily substitute the resin models.

They did it to the Thousand Sons, too. Their Heresy-era Terminators wear Cataphracti, but the modern Scarab Occults wear Tartaros.

And Death Guard. 30k Deathshroud Tartaros, 40k Deathshroud Cataphractii

Dudeface wrote:

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
I'm hoping that Marks of Chaos can do more in the codex than they do right now. Nurgle Marines, for example, should have some kind of resilience ability. Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

I would prepare to be disappointed I think. Those sorts of marks need a point cost per unit because of how wildly they very in effectiveness per body.

One way it could be done is to make it another pacts ability, in addition to the weapon buff. Khorne units, for example, could get plus one to charge rolls, Nurgle could get plus one to save throws, Tzeentch could give a five plus invulnerable save and increase by one any units that already have invulnerable saves, and Slaanesh could give plus one movement.

Fayric wrote:

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Also, what's the reason for Tzeentch units not being able to use Let The Galaxy Burn? It's random and unfluffy.

The fluff is kind of stupid anyway. Traitors are so angry and bitter they pull the flamer trigger real hard. Huh?
And with that fluff, rubrics are dust, they cant psych up themself to rage-flame their opponents.

I can totally see a Chaos Space Marine holding his finger on the trigger of a flamer, laughing maniacally as he torches his enemies. Also, not all Tzeentch units are Rubrics. There are many CSM who embrace Tzeentch who are not Rubrics, as well whole warbands like the Scourged.

My little social contribution for the week of reposting: https://imgur.com/a/XR3aghl

Dudeface wrote:
My little social contribution for the week of reposting: https://imgur.com/a/XR3aghl

It's a start, but there are two detachments missing.

Thus far, it seems the top two are Veterans of the Long War and Pactbound Zealots.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
My little social contribution for the week of reposting: https://imgur.com/a/XR3aghl

It's a start, but there are two detachments missing.

Thus far, it seems the top two are Veterans of the Long War and Pactbound Zealots.

Thanks. There are some very solid options presented.

NGL this seems like a very cool Codex with a fair whack of interesting playstyles.

My only question is where was that for the last two editions of the game?

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
My little social contribution for the week of reposting: https://imgur.com/a/XR3aghl

It's a start, but there are two detachments missing.

Thus far, it seems the top two are Veterans of the Long War and Pactbound Zealots.

Stealing from B&C this time:



Down to 1 missing I think?

Auspex Tactics has it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeY3yv-Cdw

That Chaos Cult looks hilarious.

The iron warriors one looks insane.

 xeen wrote:
The iron warriors one looks insane.

Did they get whatshisface back in to write it again?

 Dysartes wrote:

 xeen wrote:
The iron warriors one looks insane.

Did they get whatshisface back in to write it again?

That would be Pete Haines; the final boss of all Imperial Fists players

I also play 1k sons. That rule for SoT is really good. Army wide? I think it will be top contender

And Death Guard. 30k Deathshroud Tartaros, 40k Deathshroud Cataphractii

I would be super happy for Wolf Guard Tartaros (Varagyr are Catas) whenever they finally get redone. But will probably be Indomitus.