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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 18:30:06
Subject: IG codex
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AlexCage wrote:Excuse me if this has been asked before, but is it possible to amoeba (Love this term) squads from DIFFERENT platoons? Or is it only the 2-5 infantry squads in each platoon?
Like could I take two minimum troop choices (1 pcs, 2 squads each), amoeba them all together for 40 guardsmen? Or maybe take two full platoons and pop a 100-man strong unit of guardsmen on the table?
I don't remember seeing clarification on that point. I assume not, but it's nice to know.
Same platoon.
A 300 man stubborn/fearless unit would be funny tho
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The Happy Guardsman
Red Templars
Radical Inquisitor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 18:39:21
Subject: IG codex
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Couple of random bits of info from the Codex, not rules, just impressions from skimming the pages.
1. Lots of new artwork, as you'd expect.
Indeed, like the Deathstrike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:00:32
Subject: IG codex
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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So, if they are going to add back in the silly-scale ICBMs, will they at least add the tongue-in-cheek humor from 2nd edition as well?
I'm tired of there being three types of fluff:
Emo-Goth
Grim-Goth
Orks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:04:39
Subject: New Stormies
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The New Miss Macross!
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here's the leaked pic. i think he looks most similar to the 3rd edition noncadian stormy but maybe that is due to the helmet. either way, i like the pick but i'm not sure if he deserves a 4+ armor save with that little armor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:05:06
Subject: IG codex
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I guess I read it wrong, I thought it meant you could amoebaify the whole platoon, HW squads and all. I'm planning to do my platoons as 1 hq squad, 2 inf squads and 1 hw squad.. so all I could do was make the infantry a big unit of 20? then it's worth 3 kp instead of 4?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:28:10
Subject: IG codex
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Necros wrote:I guess I read it wrong, I thought it meant you could amoebaify the whole platoon, HW squads and all. I'm planning to do my platoons as 1 hq squad, 2 inf squads and 1 hw squad.. so all I could do was make the infantry a big unit of 20? then it's worth 3 kp instead of 4?
Yeah, basically.
HWS are easy KP no matter how you slice it.
But at least you can turn 5 infantry squads from one platoon, into a single KP.
And don't forget that your opponent will have to kill multiple AV14 tanks for a single KP
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The Happy Guardsman
Red Templars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:28:43
Subject: New Stormies
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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warboss wrote:here's the leaked pic. i think he looks most similar to the 3rd edition noncadian stormy but maybe that is due to the helmet. either way, i like the pick but i'm not sure if he deserves a 4+ armor save with that little armor.
Uhm. Anyone else think this guy is a dead ringer for the old stormtroopers? Like, near perfect?
Hell, it even looks like he's based on a specific mini, the one on the left:
Somewhat disappointed now.
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Iorek on Zombie Dong wrote:I know you'll all keep thinking about it. Admit it. Some of you may even make it your avatar
Yup. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:28:56
Subject: IG codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Quite so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:35:51
Subject: Re:IG codex
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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So if I go down to my LGS they will have the codex? YAY!!!
Now I can just point out over-costed/useless units and sigh!!!
-A.
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Haddi wrote:
Hello Guardsmen, look at your Leman, now back to mine, now back to your Leman, now back to mine. Sadly, your Leman isn't mine, but if they stopped using standard engines and switched to Lucifer Pattern, they could move like they're mine. Look down, back up. Where are you? Your in a battlefield with the Rhino your Leman could move like. Whats in your hand, back at me, I have it, it's the fire control for the Twin-linked Assault Cannons aimed at you. Look again, it's a Deep-Striked Land-Raider. Anything is possible when your Tanks move like Blood Angels, and not like Guardsmen. I'm on a Baneblade. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:36:50
Subject: IG codex
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Phanobi
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Disappointed? No, I like those old minis (and I'd like them even better in plastic).
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:39:08
Subject: IG codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They might nto look like so much crap that way, admittedly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:41:00
Subject: IG codex
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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The old ST models were one of the models that got me into IG and into 40k  The thought of having similar (same?) model in plastic, makes me a happy guardsman
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The Happy Guardsman
Red Templars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:47:51
Subject: New Stormies
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The New Miss Macross!
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AlexCage wrote:warboss wrote:here's the leaked pic. i think he looks most similar to the 3rd edition noncadian stormy but maybe that is due to the helmet. either way, i like the pick but i'm not sure if he deserves a 4+ armor save with that little armor.
Uhm. Anyone else think this guy is a dead ringer for the old stormtroopers? Like, near perfect?
Hell, it even looks like he's based on a specific mini, the one on the left:
Somewhat disappointed now.
um, yeah. that's exactly what i said and you quoted me, lol!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:51:09
Subject: Re:IG codex
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Those older Stormtroopers are by far my favorite after the DKoK Grenadiers. I wouldn't be upset if they turned out in that style at all. I think they are awesome.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:54:44
Subject: IG codex
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
The vast open plains of North America
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Wait, wait, what's wrong with those old stormtrooper models? I love those guys, I have two squads, they were one of the first things I bought as a budding new Guard player in 1999. One of my favorite models of all time is the stormtrooper sergeant with plasma pistol and the bolter slung across his chest.
Compared to other models of at the time, I think those old metals stand up quite well against a lot of the recent sculpts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 19:59:56
Subject: New Stormies
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Oh I LIKE the old Stormtroopers, don't get me wrong. But I'd very much like to see a brand new type of stormtrooper when they get the plastic treatment. Maybe something slightly reminiscent of the old STs and Kasrkin, but with new style. Am I just being greedy? But I'll take anything I can get in plastic, to be honest. Even if it's ugly, I'll actually be able to convert it without losing fingers/sanity. warboss wrote: um, yeah. that's exactly what i said and you quoted me, lol! Uhm. Well I was really responding more the point of "They look similar to the old ST", in that they are EXACTLY like them. But more the point I was expecting the picture to stay in the quote for comparison purposes. Oh wheel. tl, dr: QFT
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Iorek on Zombie Dong wrote:I know you'll all keep thinking about it. Admit it. Some of you may even make it your avatar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 20:03:03
Subject: IG codex
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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Biophysic wrote:Wait, wait, what's wrong with those old stormtrooper models? I love those guys, I have two squads, they were one of the first things I bought as a budding new Guard player in 1999. One of my favorite models of all time is the stormtrooper sergeant with plasma pistol and the bolter slung across his chest.
Compared to other models of at the time, I think those old metals stand up quite well against a lot of the recent sculpts.
Agreed; I did the same in '99 as well when I started my guard army. All metal cadians with three squads of these guys.
Eventually added three squads of the Kasrkin as well when the last codex was released.
So now, I'm stuck with six squads of ST; guess I can run them as hardened vets with carapace now....or use some as IST's, but that may be a thing of the past soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 20:08:15
Subject: IG codex
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Calculating Commissar
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I must say, I like the new codex art quite a bit. Especially the ones that aren't just portraits but instead tell a story. The one for Sly Marbo is a good example, and would make for a fine basis for a large diorama of epic proportion and coolness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 21:06:04
Subject: IG codex
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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What would be cool is if we got plastic stormtroopers in the old style, and if the new "plastic stormtroopers with shotguns" were to be actually arbites.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 21:08:15
Subject: IG codex
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Bane Knight
Washington DC metro area.
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What? Plastic Arbites? You, sir are a cruel tease to the six Witch Hunters players.
...(grumbles something about wanting plastic Arbites)
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Alternatively I'm a magical internet fairy.
Pho indignation *IS* the tastiest form of angry!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 21:47:52
Subject: IG codex
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Studying abroad in Jerusalem. Soon to return to Utah.
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ThirdUltra wrote:Biophysic wrote:Wait, wait, what's wrong with those old stormtrooper models? I love those guys, I have two squads, they were one of the first things I bought as a budding new Guard player in 1999. One of my favorite models of all time is the stormtrooper sergeant with plasma pistol and the bolter slung across his chest.
Compared to other models of at the time, I think those old metals stand up quite well against a lot of the recent sculpts.
Agreed; I did the same in '99 as well when I started my guard army. All metal cadians with three squads of these guys.
Eventually added three squads of the Kasrkin as well when the last codex was released.
So now, I'm stuck with six squads of ST; guess I can run them as hardened vets with carapace now....or use some as IST's, but that may be a thing of the past soon.
Ha the old metal cadians! I loved those models - still like them more than the current cadian plastics with the boxy helmets. I really wish they would come out with some plastics of those guys, maybe with better heavy weapons and lasrifle sculpts. But even before that we need steel legion figures back.
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10k points steel legion
My lasgun-toting dogfaces can dig some foxholes on their homeworld and make a defiant stand against an entire galaxy bent on their destruction and damnation.
IG forever |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 21:52:51
Subject: IG codex
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yeah, checking again, the Colossus is a Bombard on a Chimera chassis, which is really odd. I wonder if Forge World will bother making that?
The current Bombard kit is a nice kit that fit with the Russ hull quite well. I don't see how it could work with a Chimera chassis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 22:00:29
Subject: IG codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, it's mounted further forward than the earthsaker cannon is. It almost looks front-heavy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 22:59:16
Subject: IG codex
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Take a look at the bombard. Most of that thing is just the gun. It's enormous. It's not mounted forward as much as it is the entire middle of the tank!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 23:08:38
Subject: IG codex
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Fixture of Dakka
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Biophysic wrote:Wait, wait, what's wrong with those old stormtrooper models? I love those guys, I have two squads, they were one of the first things I bought as a budding new Guard player in 1999. One of my favorite models of all time is the stormtrooper sergeant with plasma pistol and the bolter slung across his chest.
Compared to other models of at the time, I think those old metals stand up quite well against a lot of the recent sculpts.
I like them too but they are rather thin when viewed in profile (see picture). I hope the plastics are a bit more filled out though not to the same degree as the Catachans.
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The secret to painting a really big army is to keep at it. You can't reach your destination if you never take any steps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/08 23:46:07
Subject: IG codex
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
Hopping on the pain wagon
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You are just used to seeing fat gamers :-p
I actually love those old stormtroopers. They are by far my favorites.
edit: and the planetstrike cover with it valhallan-esque long quotes gets the naive wishful thinker in me hoping for plastic long coats. yeah, yeah, I know, it has been said that it isn't coming, but, whatever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/09 13:54:17
Subject: IG codex
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I like the old stormtroopers a lot too, it'd be real cool if the new plastic ones were based on them. but, I also really like the bulky look of the Kaserkin models too.
I personally have 2 units of FW DK Grenadiers, the models are "thin" and even though the sculpts are great they just fell kinda wimpier when stacked up with my plasticadians.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/09 19:23:04
Subject: Re:IG codex
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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And so the IG Codex Thread quietly dies...
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Haddi wrote:
Hello Guardsmen, look at your Leman, now back to mine, now back to your Leman, now back to mine. Sadly, your Leman isn't mine, but if they stopped using standard engines and switched to Lucifer Pattern, they could move like they're mine. Look down, back up. Where are you? Your in a battlefield with the Rhino your Leman could move like. Whats in your hand, back at me, I have it, it's the fire control for the Twin-linked Assault Cannons aimed at you. Look again, it's a Deep-Striked Land-Raider. Anything is possible when your Tanks move like Blood Angels, and not like Guardsmen. I'm on a Baneblade. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/09 19:39:09
Subject: IG codex
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We're all waiting on the pdf to be loaded up to 4chan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/09 19:45:05
Subject: IG codex
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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58 pages, it had a good life.
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