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I think Migs is on to something here (no surprise there).

The fact that the lava rock grey is so similar in tone to the silver of your armor.

If you changed the lava rock to a brown color (against realism, I know) it would really do wonders for the models IMHO.

yakface wrote:If you changed the lava rock to a brown color (against realism, I know) it would really do wonders for the models IMHO.

I see brown lava rocks all the time in pet stores ^_-....

Hey guys, thanks for the comments. I really appreciate honest thoughts and critique, and it does help me with the overall effect.

That said, I've been looking at these for a while, and I think that the main things I could do are to add the bright light edging to many of the armour edges of yellow or silver. I know this would brighten the overall effect and make it stand out a bit better. I do have a habit of taking the model dark and then leaving it there. As to adding another colour, I have set them all up beside Ripley, and the main difference that stands out is the fact that when I did Ripley, I was immature in my use of verdigris, I used really pure greens, instead of the verdigris colours such as jade green, turquoise, red brown and white. That said, it does tend to break up the overall effect nicely. The problem with this is the fact that the overall army has so little to actually pick out in these colours, and that is the reason I have left it off the base troops.

Another point is, I have deliberately chosen to keep the troops more toward the "3 colour and done" mentality, and saved the ornate details for the higher level models. On these troops there are a number of skulls and horns painted in appropriate colours such as black and bone, but the bitch thing is, they disappear because they are so similar to the worn iron of the armour, so that lost out too... :( I guess that comes form my weathering technique, and my paint method could use some refinement - however my paint technique is more a technique designed for laziness rather than precision...I confess...

Anyways, I understand the points, but I think the difference will occur when I have done the rest of the army. And I was deliberately a bit lazier with the troops, because there are so many of the buggers and I wanted them done! Nothing worse than getting bored in the middle of an army project. Not only that, my plan is for the troops to be a bit plain to help the rest stand out more. I can certainly tell you that Ripley stands out in the midst of them! But that might be because she is 4 times the height of the average trooper!!!

Thanks again, guys, and you will see the refinement ideas added to the more intricate models (although I must say, I will stay with the gray lava because I don't want to redo the whole army bases! - sorry Migs ). Terminators are on the painting block at the moment...

I feel your pain. My army case is currently stocked with 9/10 finished marines and Grey Knights for just that reason. You probably are on the right track though; you can always get everything done, put it all down on the table and then decide what needs what. Maybe after that you can go back and touch up skulls and horns, then color a few top knots to make them all stick out.

It's really a handsome army, the best that I have seen in a long time, has painted a superb and very good changes, an army hallucinating

Here's a teaser of my progress at the moment. Just a teaser:



I should have these finished tomorrow for proper pics, and have started on the colour blocking of the dread.

ice blue. Always a good joice vor energy weapons since 1998. In my opinoin you should have get some furioso claws or ork buzz sawas for your dread. Those rake arms do not fit in the picture.

Ork buzz saws would be cool. Maybe on the next one

Those rakeclaws are awesome. You just have them pictured at the wrong angle there.

WHOA

Guess I missed really appreciating your termi conversions from the WIP pics. Damn groovy stuff going down in that squad, and the ice blue power death is sex.

- Salvage

Those look really sharp. I might cut back a little on the ice blue on the power mace; maybe only keep the flanges blue and the inner part of the head the black metal look. As it, it is sort of a lot of ice blue in once big chunk, and sort of takes away a little I think.

Awesome work though, I love the little eyes on the shoulder. Perhaps a little of the ice blue would be good to spread around the troopers to sort of spice them up?

Ok enough teasing and some progress.

I've pretty much finished the terminators, there'll be some extra tweaking going on, Like I'm thinking of painting the inner section of the power mace a darker colour, probably the metallic, to stop it looking so much like a giant baby rattle, and a couple of little bits and pieces here and there.

I've taken on board most of the suggestions as well that sprang out of the progress on the troops, most of which I was already going to do but one or two ideas that I hadn't thought of or wasn't sure of.

Anyways, enough babbling and onto the main event! PICTURES!!!











And my very favourite!



And for those interested - the wheel of colours I use to paint the lava:

I'm now after a bit of feedback on some ideas I have for the dread - following is a pic of where I am up to, about to start on some major weathering and I can't decide on the colours for the flails. I am thinking of either doing them entirely in the turquoise power weapon scheme, top to tip, or just doing the tips in the turquoise and maybe just fiddling the weathering colours in the arms.

Here's a pic:

I vote for just making the blades powered (blue). At least that's how I envision power flails working.

TERMIES

Ripper Face = The Man

(Makes me wish I had made my termies with ripper heads, which I happen to have some of)

DREAD

I'd stick with just the tips in blue death.

- Salvage

Ill have to admit, Im not a big fan of yellow on armor, but these guys pulled me to liking it. With the silver and that bright yellow, you really did an outstanding job! All the models look superb in detail and modeling.

I can't wait to see the dread fuly weathered and tose termies are awesome. Too bad I already painted mine

You sir, are insane. Thank you.

I vote just the tips on the dread as well. Otherwise it will just be a bit too much.
Alternately, I was knocking around an idea for "lighting" crackles on power weapons, possibly using little bits of steel wool or cotton ball, dipping in glue, and then painting the power color. Seeing as how you have more skill than I could possibly hope to muster, I suggest you try it on the dread and let me know. Crackling energy bouncing between the flails would be really cool.

I have seen something along those lines before, it sounds pretty cool but I think asthetically I would've had to have done it in the beginning. I don't like modifying something halfway through painting, either. It stresses me out too much...

Well do whatever you think is best. It's worked in the past. I'm so glad you kept the small head even when everyone wanted a bigger one. I'm sure they'll turn out awesome in the end. As always seems to happen with your work

I wanted a bigger head on the Vindi-walker. The Dread is made of awesome and win. The Vindi head is made of tiny and pin.

See, it rhymes. That's why it is clever!

the lava on the bases is to bright (in my opinion). i find my eye being draw towards the termies' feet and the lava. i feel the lava is taking attention away from the figures (which are amazing).

perhaps using darks reds, grays, and black to simulate a slow lava flow. This would help keep attention on the figures while still giving the feel of being in a lava field.


take care,
jsa

And you guys probably thought I forgot about this or got bored...

Here's my progress, I've finished the dread, and have started painting up the walking vindicator. I'm not that happy with the model and think I might just go with the 3 defilers and then do something else. After all, a possessed vindicator gives you 1 gun and thats it for the same points as something a little weaker in the cannon, with a longer range, 2 more guns and CCW...defilers are better I think for what I want...

I'll still finish painting up the vindie, but then I'll paint up the defilers next.

Pics!

Why would we think that you abandoned your minis? They
look fantastic!

They'd probably wake you up in your bed and force you
to paint them up.

I really like the way you did the flails; they look even better than I had imagined previously.

I think you might have overdone the verdigris on the skulls though. With the blue of the flails so close, it looks less like oxidized bronze and more like a demi-power skull to my eye. I just think the color as is ties it more closely to the striking power flails than some decorative metal bits. Might just be the picture, or how it shows up on my laptop's screen.

The flails look really cool.

And for some reason they make me want ice cream...weird.

Well I'm off to the fridge. Don't stop painting. Please

Agree with Wehrkind.

Flails = Awesome & Money. Awesome Money.

Verdigris Skulls = missing something, and mostly look unfinished and a little messy to me.

- Salvage

I might just tough up the skulls with some highlight of a dark brown or something. I feel kinda the same way and I guess I'm feeling a little overwhelmed at the moment coz I keep looking at my painting to-do list

Here are the pics of the vindiwalker, and yep; I dont' update for ages and then you get two in two days! Amazin'!!!

The jobs rougher on this one, for two reasons:

1. The paint was badly misbehaving
2. After getting near the end I realised it suited it anyways - who in their right mind is gonna go near a daemonically possessed vehicle to try and fix or wash it anyways...unless it's dead or disabled.







And the view that says either RUN or you wish you had...



And a close up of the base:

Wow, that looks great! I agree that the rough and dirty paint suits it really well. Are you going to add a little pink or fleshy color to the skin/daemonic growth bits? As it stands they don't really scream "I am something alive." Might just be the picture with my screen here though.

Still, looks great!