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Oy! WarOrk! No editing.

You'd do what Rusty's doing from a scum POV if you saw you were dead and wanted to create a large distraction, especially if you made sense.

You'd do what Rusty is doing from an innocent POV if you think you finally have a decent suspicion on someone guilty.

Too close to call but the 'Rusty is innocent' idea is playing my mind.... I shall wait 5 hours and see what my awake brian says.

I haven't voted for Mordoskul, but I have quetioned what he's said before. It seems to me that he only posts filler to avoid getting kicked for non-participation. Note that he still didn't answer my questions about his posts.

I can think of other ways to make bigger distractions. Joining a Drk_O bandwagon earlier in the day phase would've worked. Linking you and Thor as seeming to work together (he defends you, you both jumped onto voting me at about the same time, he unvotes and you then express doubt (note, I don't know why Thor would follow your lead, so I don't actually think you and him are on a team)) could also do the trick. If I wanted to save myself with a distraction, why not go after WARORK? If both Thor and I are questioning him, he'll make more mistakes, making it easier for me to drive the public opinion against me.

@rusty

I will admit my first post was poor reasoning on my part, I'll give you that. Whenever I checked the posts on this thread, it was always you and Ferret tearing into each other. On my third post, where I mention that you suspected me of being scum, I shall again admit an error on my part. You were suspicious, but you did not accuse.

@Rusty - okay, I'm beginning to think you might be town (though, let us be honest - you *have* been beating the Thor/ferrett drum today.) At the very least, you're 'town enough for today.'

I'm not sure I buy Mordoskull though, how would you feel about a WARORK or Drk_O lynch? Do you have a read on either of them?

the_ferrett wrote:Oy! WarOrk! No editing.

totally my bad, force of habit...

Facepalm explanations:
1. No, you weren't. After I pointed out my case on him Drk-O acted surprised and flat out admitted he'd forgotten that part.

Okay...

2. Because I was making a point to Rusty about lies in scum cases, as I already said. Also, I'm anal retentive about actually making sure the truth is what the conversation is about.

You said it not me.....

3. So I take it you're now 100% on Rusty being town? Previous to this post you didn't seem to be thinking that way.

Not necessarily but I'm mostly convinced that he isn't scum...

watch me be wrong and get killed in my sleep

Dammit all, why are my top 3 suspects looking less suspicious all the time...

You really think WarOrk could be acting coy and really be guilty?

I am feeling better about a Mordoskull or Drk_O lynch. Mordoskull because he came in and posted really odd things after being AWOL. Drk_O because his suspicions seemed really random and off-base, and I wonder if he was trying to throw us off.

So for now, because I keep forgetting to check the thread consistently...
Unvote: Thor665
Vote: Mordoskull

Mordoskull, if you are innocent, please try to give a good reasoning why... so far your posts have made you look extremely suspicious to me.

For my part, I feel I'm being a little lynch-happy... and if we kill another townsperson we're going to be in a pretty bad spot with the killers-to-innocents ratio.

But not_u's explanation of his silence convinced me, ferret I'm just putting to the side for now, and Thor/Rusty are being reasonable enough that I do not suspect them as much as before (although they could simply be toning things down slightly to try to stay alive, which makes sense whether they're townspeople or killers).

I am not convinced about WarOrk's killer-potential... Drk_O and Mordoskull I would like to see more explanations of their innocence from at this point, though.

Sorry for the somewhat rambling post again- I tend to remember to check this quite late in the evening

At the risk of being called out again.....

Unvote: Thor
Vote: Mordoskull

I was not going to change my vote, not because I think Thor is scum, its that apparently my positive association with Rusty has been frowned upon and I figured making the same vote as him would implicate me further

But I cannot, with good conscious, vote for someone I don't think is scum just to save my own sorry butt. I vote for Mordo because I agree with both Rusty's and RiTide's theory, Mordo's given the most reason to be implicated in my opinion.

n0t_u wrote:Insisting you could only be innocent.

I only insisted that in an example.

RiTides wrote: Drk_O because his suspicions seemed really random and off-base, and I wonder if he was trying to throw us off.

My suspicions of n0t_u and mordo were for similar reasons, because they spent most of this day phase not commenting at all. My suspicions of you were more because I don't know you in game very well. However, you do seem alittle offended/indignant by my mere mention of suspicion


Also, I'm rather concerned how quickly Mordo's gotten to being lynched. He's a vote away from a majority vote. I don't think he's scum, just new. I know I might have been quick to point fingers at him, but I was trying to get him to post more.

Current Voting Situation
1 - n0t_u (Drk_Oblitr8r)
0 - Drk_Oblitr8r
2 - RustyKnight (the_ferrett, Mordoskul)
0 - the_ferrett
0 - WARORK93
3 - Mordoskul (RustyKnight, RiTides, WARORK93)
0 - RiTides
0 - Thor665

0 - No lynch

Not voting (n0t_u, Thor665)
Not posted during Day 2 (-)

If the day ended now, Mordoskul would be lynched

With EIGHT alive it takes FIVE to lynch before the deadline is reached

Day 2 ends at 0900 GMT 5th April 2011 [3 Days 22 Hours 45 Minutes]

RustyKnight votes Thor665
Thor665 votes Drk_Oblitr8r
RiTides votes Thor665
the_ferrett votes RustyKnight
Thor665 unvotes Drk_Oblitr8r
Thor665 votes RustyKnight
Drk_Oblitr8r votes n0t_u
Mordoskul votes RustyKnight
WARORK93 votes Thor665
RustyKnight unvotes Thor665
RustyKnight votes Mordoskul
Thor665 unvotes RustyKnight
RiTides unvotes Thor665
RiTides votes Mordoskul
WARORK93 unvotes Thor665
WARORK93 votes Mordoskul

Drk_O wrote:My suspicions of n0t_u and mordo were for similar reasons, because they spent most of this day phase not commenting at all. My suspicions of you were more because I don't know you in game very well. However, you do seem alittle offended/indignant by my mere mention of suspicion

Touche! And good point. I guess I was a little offended, as I felt you didn't provide a good reason. And that reaction would make me guilty by my own logic. Oh bugger

I await your impassioned defense of your innocence, Mordoskul...

Also, Drk_O, just to point out that currently I have lessened my suspicions of Rusty and Thor, due to that not really being the most fantastic logic ever. It was something to start with, though... but at the moment I am leaning away from that reasoning and more towards condemning Mordoskul's strange posts.

I do feel it could be a bit premature to lynch him, but I again wonder at your reasoning, as your opinions seem to be in a different vein that everyone else- a sign of an independent thinker trying to avoid mob mentality / excess lynchings... or a killer trying to lead us astray / into picking another target, and not be labelled as bandwagoning on like WarOrk is currently being labelled.

You would currently be my #2 suspicion... again if Mordoskul is going down and you are partners in crime, your trying to gently steer us away from lynching him suddenly makes a lot of sense.

Just a theory, would appreciate people's thoughts on it...

I still think him being new is still a good reason to avoid lynching him atm, if people don't agree with me, then it's that's cool.

That being said, if he's not helpful in finding scum, completely self contradictionary, and missing for most of the dayphase, then I wouldn't mind him being lynched

Also unvote: n0t_u he's become more active, so I feel the pressure vote has taken it's course

I'd probably vote for Mord, but I think we're better off with the extra time to think things through rather than rush into a lynch.

Vote: Drk_O

I don't really feel Mord at all, and at least people are mentioning Drk_O as opposed to WARORK, so let's try to get this one rolling again.

It's almost as if you know something we don't Thor.

I know that I don't trust WARORK or the way he leapt on Mord, I know that I'd rather lynch Drk_O or WARORK today, I know what color underwear I'm wearing (navy blue).

I'm pretty sure that covers all the info you don't have that I do.

Why would you "probably vote for Mord"?

I don't think WARORK is scum for the reason I already listed. It's still possible that he is scum, but I doubt it.

Drk_O is an interesting prospect. He was awfully quiet yesterday and today, especially for himself. He never really explained the definite playstyle shift (he did say he hadn't played for a while). Hints of the old madness still shine through (voting for everyone, the head explosion), but they're few and far between. His vote for n0t_u did provoke a more active n0t_u yesterday (n0t_u discussed some ferrett and had that whole voting after the deadline thing), and it's not like Drk_o gave n0t_u any arguments to refute about voting for him. Drk_O has continued voting for n0t_u for little reason. He's managed to avoid commenting on me or Thor, and has given only the briefest of mention to ferrett, never discussing my attacks or Thor counterpoints. Probably coincidence, but Fifty did mention that he found Drk_O's silence suspicious yesterday. Depending on how Mordo replies, I'd definitely be interested in a Drk_O lynch.

@Thor: You don't get a scummy vibe off of Mordo's posts at all?

On Thor knowing more than he should: If he knew that Drk_o was scum, why would he have spent so much of the dayphase gunning for me and not making a list of other complaints against Drk_O? I don't think Thor's the investigator, at least no more than anyone else. More importantly, why claim he is? If he is, you could have just compromised his safety, especially with us lacking our doctor role (guessing based on names and roles in the WHFB world).

RustyKnight wrote:@Thor: You don't get a scummy vibe off of Mordo's posts at all?

I don't get a good town vibe off his posts - but that's different than getting a scummy vibe.
Also, look at how WARORK got on him - *that* looks scummy to me, and it looks scummy enough that I tend to suspect Mordo less because of it.

As I posted above, Drk_O is my #2 suspicion, and if you guys are more up for voting for him than for Mordoskul, I am game, too. I still want to see a defense of Mordoskul (by himself) because he's right up there for me. I am not convinced about WarOrk...

Unvote: Mordoskul
Vote: Drk_O

Also, I am not sure whether Bro_Styr was the doctor or the (sherriff?) from the description on the first page (and the narrative describing his death). But it certainly seems he must have been one of the two... but I got the impression that he was the sherriff, rather than the doctor... which would mean we are even more on our own in figuring out the identity of the killers.

BrotherStynier was the detective role. Apologies if there was confusion, I forget that others didn't see the role specific emails I sent out, though I thought I'd written it down somewhere in the first post... My apologies if that has confused anyone.

I will post up the role descriptions at the end of the game for all to see.

Thor665 wrote:I know what color underwear I'm wearing (navy blue)

Hey! Me too, thats weird....

RustyKnight wrote:Drk_O is an interesting prospect. He was awfully quiet yesterday and today, especially for himself. He never really explained the definite playstyle shift (he did say he hadn't played for a while). Hints of the old madness still shine through (voting for everyone, the head explosion), but they're few and far between.

I thought I explained, that my previous approch was more self destructive than constructive. I was more of a distraction, and sure, it kept me safe from Nightkills, I always get voted off anyway. I'm trying to be more helpful, I want to at least catch one bad guy as a town role.

His vote for n0t_u did provoke a more active n0t_u yesterday (n0t_u discussed some ferrett and had that whole voting after the deadline thing), and it's not like Drk_o gave n0t_u any arguments to refute about voting for him. Drk_O has continued voting for n0t_u for little reason.

I wasn't voting for him because I thought he was a bad guy, I just noticed that no one else seem to notice he wasn't saying much. So I voted for him to get him talking, and was about to do the same to Mordo until he jumped in out of no where.

I also unvoted n0t_u 4 hours before you posted this. I know I held on a bit too long, but that was because I completely forgot ^_^"

He's managed to avoid commenting on me or Thor, and has given only the briefest of mention to ferrett, never discussing my attacks or Thor counterpoints. Probably coincidence, but Fifty did mention that he found Drk_O's silence suspicious yesterday. Depending on how Mordo replies, I'd definitely be interested in a Drk_O lynch.

I have been avoiding commenting on you, because I don't suspect you at all. And you reassured that I am right in doing so before, when you broke the tied voting between Thor and yourself, so that if the dayphase ended you would have died. I avoid commenting on people who I don't think are bad guys, because it builds connections with them and if they flip anti-town and I'm wrong, then I'm implicated. I also avoid commenting on Thor because it never ends well, for me anyway.

So, the dayphase ends tomorrow and we're currently at a tie.

Currently, only n0t_u and I aren't voting.

While I don't believe he is scum, I know ties are bad, because it's the only time town gets a chance to kill off bad guys. I'm going to have to vote: Mordoskull because I have to work with what I know. I know I'm a townie, and I know we need all the townies we can get to eventually win this game.

If you guys feel you should vote for me because of this, then go ahead.

Edited to fix up the size formatting

Just don't vote for me getting the time wrong ^_^" I completely forgot to work in the other 22 hours

We now have a 3 way tie, from my reckoning.

the_ferrett wrote:We now have a 3 way tie, from my reckoning.

I'll just work this out

Current Voting Situation
0 - n0t_u
2 - Drk_Oblitr8r (Thor665, RiTides)
2 - RustyKnight (the_ferrett, Mordoskul)
0 - the_ferrett
0 - WARORK93
3 - Mordoskul (RustyKnight, WARORK93, Drk_O)
0 - RiTides
0 - Thor665

This seem about right?

not_u, at this point a non-vote is equivalent to a vote for Mordoskul. Do you really think he should die and Drk_O should live, especially with his above post? I find that more suspicious than anything he's done so far...

Ferret, are you just going to leave your vote on Rusty?

I am not totally opposed to voting off Mordoskul, but I would prefer to get rid of Drk_O... Rusty and WarOrk as well, you guys would rather be rid of Mordoskul than Drk_O?

I'm confused, how is the above post by Drk_O suspicious? He was just counting the votes...I was wondering about doing that myself....

I think he's pointing out the self-preservative nature of Drk_O's post above that. That's a risky tell to throw around though, as town generally don't want to die either. I'll admit I like the fact he didn't go after Rusty.

The part that looks bad to me is Drk_O's "if you guys want to vote for me because of this" line - that suggests he feels what he's doing is scummy, which suggests a guilty conscience and yadda, yadda.

I'd really like to see n0t_u get in here and toss down a vote - he has three functional options and I see no benefit to not having a vote from him today.

Request prod: n0t_u

I want to see what he chooses, then we can suss out from there as either he'll give us two contenders or he'll toss Mordo so far into the lead the other two wagons will need to refocus. Either way will be a lot of good info for tomorrow.

Well actually the votes are on the three that I'm most suspicious of at the moment.
It really comes down to which is the most to me.

I was actually going to vote for Mord, but it was one vote off lynch and that would have just thrown away the remaining days we had left.



So here's my vote.

Though I'll probably regret it, I'm going to go with VOTE: DRK_O. He's acting crazy as normal, but it just doesn't seem the same way of crazy he usually does. I don't know he just has that way with this game where he puts a big neon target above his head going "I'm a definitely a good guy so don't kill me, K? ".