Kosake wrote:

 Lone Cat wrote:
^ 'There are 'superior products' in the market yes. but is it the superior product of the same category? (In this case. a hex-based TBS similar to Panzer General series) if so tell what do you recommend? Civ V? and Civ: Beyond Earth??

I have not played that much TBS, so i'm sorry that I can not offer you anything new here, but let's take the older games allready present: Civ V and Heroes of Might and Magic 5/6/...i dunno, is a 7th allready under way?
You might say that those were double or tripple-A-Titles that cost 50-60€ on release, true enough, but right now you can get either one with all expansions for much less than 40€ Armageddon is pushed for, so you'll not only get a technically better game, but also much more content, nicer graphics, polished interface etc. etc.

A quick google search revealed Mechwarrior Tactics, that - from the one-page-review i've read about it - sounds allready much nicer than Armageddon and is free to play.

Steam's got Warmachine Tactics and a Mordheim for 30 or less.

And moving away from the hex requirement there's XCom. A complete pack of the Enemy Unknown currently for 30 on steam.

So yeah, if you want TBS, you'll find a lot of better stuff for less money.

 Davylove21 wrote:
Had they made a game that was essentially a re-skinned Red Alert 2, I'd pay up. Looking at a few gameplay videos for this and it's just irritating to me as a 40K fan. Doesn't bring the miniatures to life like DoW did.

Talys wrote:
For TBS fans though, it's not a question of A or B, it's A and B. XCom is great -- it's fantastic -- just like Heroes of Might and magic. Civilization is really a different kind of game (it's a world building TBS, rather than a combat TBS)... it's really my favorite game ever written. Remember that all of these games when they first launched were premium priced titles. If you wait a year, you can pick them up on boxing day for nearly nothing, and then after that, they're permanently discounted, with things like bundled DLCs.

Armageddon was just released, though.

Talys wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Lone Cat wrote:
^ 'There are 'superior products' in the market yes. but is it the superior product of the same category? (In this case. a hex-based TBS similar to Panzer General series) if so tell what do you recommend? Civ V? and Civ: Beyond Earth??

I have not played that much TBS, so i'm sorry that I can not offer you anything new here, but let's take the older games allready present: Civ V and Heroes of Might and Magic 5/6/...i dunno, is a 7th allready under way?
You might say that those were double or tripple-A-Titles that cost 50-60€ on release, true enough, but right now you can get either one with all expansions for much less than 40€ Armageddon is pushed for, so you'll not only get a technically better game, but also much more content, nicer graphics, polished interface etc. etc.

A quick google search revealed Mechwarrior Tactics, that - from the one-page-review i've read about it - sounds allready much nicer than Armageddon and is free to play.

Steam's got Warmachine Tactics and a Mordheim for 30 or less.

And moving away from the hex requirement there's XCom. A complete pack of the Enemy Unknown currently for 30 on steam.

So yeah, if you want TBS, you'll find a lot of better stuff for less money.

For TBS fans though, it's not a question of A or B, it's A and B. XCom is great -- it's fantastic -- just like Heroes of Might and magic. Civilization is really a different kind of game (it's a world building TBS, rather than a combat TBS)... it's really my favorite game ever written. Remember that all of these games when they first launched were premium priced titles. If you wait a year, you can pick them up on boxing day for nearly nothing, and then after that, they're permanently discounted, with things like bundled DLCs.

Armageddon was just released, though.




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 Davylove21 wrote:
Had they made a game that was essentially a re-skinned Red Alert 2, I'd pay up. Looking at a few gameplay videos for this and it's just irritating to me as a 40K fan. Doesn't bring the miniatures to life like DoW did.

DoW 2 is a RTS, though, not TBS. TBS games are a closer reflection of the 40k tabletop, IMO. I enjoy both, but my preference is TBS for single player, RTS for multiplayer.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
Looking at the screenshots I'm really impressed by the unit variety; Stormeagle, Land Raider Helios and Tauros are all Forgeworld units and if even half the FW stuff available for all the factions is in game this could be really cool.

 Kosake wrote:

If you are so starved for TBS games, go to the dev's page. I think I saw a whole bunch of similar games there, not one of which caught my eye or sounded even vaguely familiar. I'm pretty sure this is pretty much a re-skin of some of their previous work with "WARHAMMER 40K" painted over it to get some publicity - not because of the game quality but simply because of the established brand.