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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 19:29:26
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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This is a variation on the list I ran at the LA GT.
The current version is a little different, but it needs some remodeling.
1750 Pts - Eldar Roster - Unnamed
1 Autarch @ 132 Pts
Unit Type: Jetbike Infantry; Fleet; Independent Character; Master Strategist; Turbo-boosters; Forceshield (FShld); Mandiblaster ( Mb); Eldar Jetbike (EJB); Laser Lance ( LL); Shuriken Pistol (Sp); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat) (x1); Haywire Grenades (HayG); Plasma Grenades ( PG); Avenger
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1 Phoenix Lord @ 195 Pts
Disciples; Eternal Warriors; Fearless; Fleet; Independent Character
1 PL Maugan Ra @ [195] Pts
Acute Senses; Crack Shot ( CS); Fast Shot (FS); The Maugetar (M)
6 Fire Dragons @ 96 Pts
Fleet; Fusion Gun (Fg); Melta Bombs
6 Fire Dragons @ 96 Pts
Fleet; Fusion Gun (Fg); Melta Bombs
6 Fire Dragons @ 96 Pts
Fleet; Fusion Gun (Fg); Melta Bombs
3 Guardian Jetbike Squadron @ 76 Pts
Unit Type: Jetbike Infantry; Turbo-boosters; Eldar Jetbike (EJB); Shuriken Cannon (SCan) (x1); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat) (x2)
3 Guardian Jetbike Squadron @ 76 Pts
Unit Type: Jetbike Infantry; Turbo-boosters; Eldar Jetbike (EJB); Shuriken Cannon (SCan) (x1); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat) (x2)
3 Guardian Jetbike Squadron @ 76 Pts
Unit Type: Jetbike Infantry; Turbo-boosters; Eldar Jetbike (EJB); Shuriken Cannon (SCan) (x1); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat) (x2)
4 Shining Spears @ 212 Pts
Unit Type: Jetbike Infantry; Turbo-boosters; Eldar Jetbike (EJB); Laser Lance ( LL); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat) (x4)
1 Shining Spears Exarch @ [72] Pts
Unit Type: Jetbike Infantry; Turbo-boosters; WithDraw; Eldar Jetbike (EJB); Laser Lance ( LL); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat) (x1)
0 Vyper Squadron @ 80 Pts
1 Vyper @ [60] Pts
Scatter Laser (SctL); Spirit Stone (V:SpStn); TL Shuriken Catapult ( TL-Scat); Shuriken Cannon (SCan)
1 Falcon @ 205 Pts
Holo-Field (Vehicle) (H-F); Spirit Stone (V:SpStn); Vectored Engines (VE); Scatter Laser (SctL); Shuriken Cannon (SCan); Pulse Laser ( PL)
1 Falcon @ 205 Pts
Holo-Field (Vehicle) (H-F); Spirit Stone (V:SpStn); Vectored Engines (VE); Scatter Laser (SctL); Shuriken Cannon (SCan); Pulse Laser ( PL)
1 Falcon @ 205 Pts
Holo-Field (Vehicle) (H-F); Spirit Stone (V:SpStn); Vectored Engines (VE); Scatter Laser (SctL); Shuriken Cannon (SCan); Pulse Laser ( PL)
Total Roster Cost: 1750
Oh I'm not posting for critique, or suggestions, but if you want to go ahead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 21:47:37
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Pewling Menial
Austin, TX
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is Maugan Ra the only one on foot?
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I can resist everything except temptation. ~Oscar Wilde |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 21:51:13
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes. He's an IC, and hides behind the Falcons. He adds considerable punch to my shooting phase, and most people don't want to assault him--he's killy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 22:14:06
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Catskill New York
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I thought skimmers didn't block line of site
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My other car is a Wave Serpent |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 22:21:21
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Skimmers don't block LOS.
It's still a large target, correct?
He's still a IC, correct?
You can SEE Maugen Ra, but you can't shoot him unless he's the closest unit....which the way I play, usually he is not the closest, Falcons are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 22:26:22
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Catskill New York
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True enough. I misunderstood your intent when you said "hiding behind".
Of course, your opponent can always have them test for target priority.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 22:39:23
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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You can't shoot a IC with target priority. They simply aren't valid targets if there are any other targets that are closer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/23 22:49:05
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Devastating Dark Reaper
Catskill New York
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gotcha. thanks for the clarification.
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My other car is a Wave Serpent |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/24 13:05:12
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Agile Revenant Titan
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I'm intrigued about Maugan Ra. How did he fare in your army? Not being a Marine player, I've never had the ability to field an Assault Cannon, errr, Maugatar. With his IC status, it looks like he can be a decent shooter against almost anything in the game. The rest of the army isn't my style to play, but to each their own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/24 13:21:01
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Fresh-Faced New User
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It seems like the shining spears are a little points heavy, and also maybe drop the spirit stones on the vyper? Also, have you play tested using the fire dragon phoenix lord instead of morgan ra and putting him in one of the falcons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/24 17:58:02
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Maugan Ra doesn't fit into this army. Up to the Lord, it is highly mobile able to take on one enemy flank or reposition quickly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 08:08:09
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sarigar wrote:I'm intrigued about Maugan Ra. How did he fare in your army? Not being a Marine player, I've never had the ability to field an Assault Cannon, errr, Maugatar. With his IC status, it looks like he can be a decent shooter against almost anything in the game. The rest of the army isn't my style to play, but to each their own.
He is the only HQ that can do what he can do. He adds considerably to the firepower I have, and given his strength in close combat most people stay clear of him.
The army isn't unbeatable by any means, but it's currently unbeaten and semi-retired. I need to rework it a little bit for 2000 points.
Anyway Maugen Ra has always pulled his weight. Nothing else in the game can rend out marines in buildings with no save...not from a yard away and no response possible, anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 08:12:40
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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ghettob170 wrote:It seems like the shining spears are a little points heavy, and also maybe drop the spirit stones on the vyper? Also, have you play tested using the fire dragon phoenix lord instead of morgan ra and putting him in one of the falcons?
The spears are quite expensive. They were a custom conversion, and are slated to become a seer council instead of the shining spears. It's just more viable.
The Vypers I have are retired. They just don't do well enough.
I tried both Phoenix Lords inside vehicles and not inside.
Frankly as long as you encircle the enemy with Falcons, you can run the Phoenix Lords around just beyond reach of the enemy and pop shots off. It's much easier with Maugen Ra, but Fuegan makes an excellent counterpart. Sadly, an Autarch with a Fusion Gun is almost as good in shooting; and Fuegan while excellent in assault he just can't match Maugen Ra. I think at 2000 points I'll bring him, as he's quite likely to run into vehicle heavy armies or Land Raiders--things he excels at removing.
I didn't like dumping him into a Falcon with Fire Dragons, as 5 or 6 of them can accomplish what he can so why bring him?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 08:15:48
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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wuestenfux wrote:Maugan Ra doesn't fit into this army. Up to the Lord, it is highly mobile able to take on one enemy flank or reposition quickly.
Sure he does. Maugen Ra moves constantly. I usually put him dead center of the board and use him as an area denial tool. There's not much he can't threaten.
There's no need to have a very mobile HQ like a Jetbike Autarch (although I do) since Maugen Ra's range and abilities allow him to mesh well with any Eldar army.
My army might go up a flank, or speed around...but I don't have a assault army so he can follow.
He has a 42" effective range. There's nothing he can't reach out and touch if he wants to, which is what makes him so good in my army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 08:17:09
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Executing Exarch
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Agree with your choice of Maugan Ra over Fuegan. Ra has the range to be effective from early in the game even though foot-slogging, but Feugan doesn't. Factor in the additional cost and the choice is clear, at least in this role.
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Wehrkind wrote:Sounds like a lot, but with a little practice I can do ~7-8 girls in 2-3 hours. Probably less if the cat and wife didn't want attention in that time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 08:37:44
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sadly, the Fuegan model is so very nice.
I have two, one on a bike for a Autarch with Fusion Gun, and the other foot as Fuegan.
If Fuegan had 2 shots he'd be spot on. Or a re-roll to hit with 1 shot...whatever, rolling a '1' means his points are often wasted right when you need them, which sucks donkey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 08:57:57
Subject: Re:Eldar Army List
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Executing Exarch
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Well, he used to have two shots. . . . Sigh.
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Wehrkind wrote:Sounds like a lot, but with a little practice I can do ~7-8 girls in 2-3 hours. Probably less if the cat and wife didn't want attention in that time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/25 09:26:21
Subject: Eldar Army List
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Fixture of Dakka
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PK said he was too good with 2 shots. I suggested a re-roll, and I swear it was like he'd not thought of it. lol
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