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Hi Dakkas,
I've brought myself to show of my army, or better, parts of it. Most of the stuff is WIP, only the Dark Reapers are what I consider finished (so with base done, not sealed, though). I will update this thread with my converted Wraithlord counting as an Avatar when my camera is back with new power.

You may notice that the style of the Eldar is a bit darker than usual with all the spiky and dark eldary bits on the models.
On top of that I tried to make the Army look more uniform than the different colored versions of GW (different colors for each aspect), because I dislike the, what I call, rainbow-army-look.

I know that my work is nowhere near the levels usually posted here, but I thought that a more down to earth army could bring other users to post their un-golden demon work as well to get a more realistic picture of painting standards.

So here it goes:

Mhhh...they got mixed up... how comes?

Well, first time uploader, so please excuse the problems occurred.

Any tips, comments and that stuff is welcomed of course!

Greets
Schepp himself

Schepp himself wrote:Mhhh...they got mixed up... how comes?

Well, first time uploader, so please excuse the problems occurred.

Any tips, comments and that stuff is welcomed of course!

Greets
Schepp himself

The uploading mix up is a known bug that's on the (long) list of bugs to fix up. Lego's on it ^_^

My biggest comment would be to not be afraid to post your minis here. Especially close ups. You'll never get better if you're not willing to take a few hits here and there as to how you can improve!

It looks like you've got good brush control, which makes me wonder why you haven't tried to highlight much here at all. Another issue is the that you're drybrushing big swaths of armor that you should be trying to get a more solid color on. Your blues are not covering very well because of that. You should really try to get a more complete color coverage and highlight. I suggest highlighting by 'edging' to start. This will get you in the right frame of mind and give you more chances to improve brush control. Your white looks a bit thick as well (though it is a solid color which is good!), are you using successive colors to build up the white, or are you painting un-thinned white paint until it covers?

I'd start with the above, and really get in there and really give it a good run at trying some new techniques. The art of it all comes after you have a solid foundation built up with the basics ^_^. You've got a good start! It's all technique from here ^_^.

You could bring the blue/brown scheme a bit more in you aspect warriors than just give paint them in one colour.

Well, first off thanks for the replies!

I tried to keep the Aspect look a bit, hence the red on the Dragon. I kept the blue gun and he has brown pants (not showing in the pic).
I plan to buy some Banshees in the future which I will paint in the bleached bone colored sheme with blue tabard.

Greets
Schepp himself

Hi,
I added pics of the wraithlord who counts as an avatar. Fluff on that guy is that the two autarchs of the Craftworld defended it to the death after/shortly before the fall but now still lead their kin to battle. One is the shooty guy ( brightlance and missle launcher) and the other is the melee guy (avatar, because melee wraithlord sort of...you know). Don't know if they should be brothers or stuff like that. Maybe that would be a little bit too much.

Greets
Schepp himself

The Wraithlord looks really cool. I am rather jealous of those cool plastic models Eldar get.

As to paint, I would try and add a contrastic color to your models. The Dragon in particular needs something on his armor to set it off a bit. Even just some black parts or some really bright highlights of orange and yellow at the edges of the armor would help make him stand out a bit and not look like a solid block of uniform material. (Of course, he is in fact that, but we don't want him to look it.) Likewise with the other infantry fellows, some light edging highlights like GreyD suggested really helps a monochrome color scheme.

That's a mondo shield. My only suggestion would be to rotate it such that the pointy part of the shield is pointing toward the hand. Then move it up a little bit more up the arm.

Great idea. Consider it stolen!

ender502

ender502 wrote:That's a mondo shield. My only suggestion would be to rotate it such that the pointy part of the shield is pointing toward the hand. Then move it up a little bit more up the arm.

Great idea. Consider it stolen!

ender502

You mean like some sort of buckler with build in fighting claws?
Mhh...I think I will try that, but it would change his appearance more towards "sneaky ninja" than "honorable knight".

Thanks for the ideas and tips everybody!

What do you think about a weapon to represent the meltashot the avatar gets? I'm thinking about a big support weapon gun, but i fear that would unbalance it a bit too much while the ordinary wraithlordguns would look like...well...just that, wrathlordguns.

Greets
Schepp himself

I actually think the position on the shield is right on currently - the Wraithatar is holding it like a shield-shield, not a big stabby combat-shield. And nifty idea to use the wraith as big molten angry guy. I'm not sure how much I like the idea of using 2 wraithlord models in your army but having one count as a wraith and the other count as an avatar (but clearly looks like a cc wraithlord, which is an option in itself) when the stats / entries are so distinct ...

But nifty model all the same

- Salvage

I plan to further differentiate the "avatar" by a different paintjob (maybe a glowing lava approach with a deep red in the recesses)
and additionally a quick note before the game starts should stop any confusion.

Greets
Schepp himself

Everyone paints their avatar red, though. Put blue lava on yours. Just like orks who put go-faster red stripes, your avatar will have get-hotter blue stripes.

stonefox wrote:Everyone paints their avatar red, though. Put blue lava on yours. Just like orks who put go-faster red stripes, your avatar will have get-hotter blue stripes.

...does this make sense to anyone else,because it does to me...somehow.

Greets
Schepp himself

What he meens I think is a blue glow but this would be pretty hard to achive not looking like lightnings all over him. But first nice idea with the shield. Maybe an inspiratin to the crazy mech builders in this forum. What might work is something like the tron effect everything black and shiny but the gaps glowing.

Ide be interested in learning how you did that blue effect on your infantry/jetbike models. I want to do something simlar on my tanks, except with red instead of blue.

LightningGus wrote:Ide be interested in learning how you did that blue effect on your infantry/jetbike models. I want to do something simlar on my tanks, except with red instead of blue.

It sure looks like a blue drybrush over a black basecoat, but I could be wrong.

yakface wrote:

LightningGus wrote:Ide be interested in learning how you did that blue effect on your infantry/jetbike models. I want to do something simlar on my tanks, except with red instead of blue.

It sure looks like a blue drybrush over a black basecoat, but I could be wrong.

Almost got it, yakface. It's a basecoat of "deadly nightshade" and then drybrushed finstering blue or enchanted blue. I don't know if deadly nightshade is known to anyone. But t's simply a very dark blue. I think the new "necron abyss" comes close.

But as you see on the pics (and the comments) it's a rather messy method of painting. It's pretty quick, though and gives you a decent tabletop standard imo.

Greets
Schepp himself

Looks like a partial wash was done, really. Or you did a drybrush, didn't like it, and wiped everything off...dunno, isn't my cup of tea but it's hard to critique when it isn't done yet....though you did say the Reapers are done, and they don't look it. More work on the base and head, and everything in between seems...ready to be worked on.

They look pretty nice to me. Keep up the good work.

: )

- G

I too I'm not a GD painter, but on Eldar minis just picking up the details (stones, cables) with different colors improve the mini very much, even without shading/highlight etc

I like what you've done with the dreadnaught. The shield is a unique idea I haven't seen done before and it looks really good. A nice simple but still very appealing conversion. I also like the way you've posed him. Good work.

Phoenix wrote:I like what you've done with the dreadnaught. The shield is a unique idea I haven't seen done before and it looks really good. A nice simple but still very appealing conversion. I also like the way you've posed him. Good work.

I got the idea from a golden demon entry in france (I think), so it's not completely my idea. but thanks anyway, I like how he turned out.
The pose has derived from the dire avenger exarch with halberd and shimmershield. Pics to come.

Greets
Schepp himself

EDIT: I'm quite surprised no one noticed the spiky mohawks on the guardians...but oh well.

How did you get the hand to work out that way? I'm working on a chaos-corrupted wraithlord that's lunging forward an swinging the sword in a similar action, but I can't see how to do it without resculpting the hand out of green stuff or something. Where did you cut the hand, etc to make that?

-Spellbound

Spellbound wrote:How did you get the hand to work out that way? I'm working on a chaos-corrupted wraithlord that's lunging forward an swinging the sword in a similar action, but I can't see how to do it without resculpting the hand out of green stuff or something. Where did you cut the hand, etc to make that?

-Spellbound

You have these "ribs" between the limps of the wraithlord. And
if you just cut the wrists a bit (sounds wrong, but bear with me!) you can repose the arm like I did. Due to
a slight Wraitharmor overhang, you won't see a thing and even if you think about it: It's the same if you sculpt a bit of these in between ribbons to the wrists or just cut some of it away.

Greets
Schepp himself

What I was freaking out most about was the angle of the sword. It holds the sword "straight up", which while ok for poses is unnatural for a swing, which is what I wanted to get. But this way I can make it look pretty much the same, and nobody but a Golden Daemon winner's going to make any comments about my corrupted wraithlord-dreadnought swinging unnaturally!

That really does look super-sweet, one question though: Now what are you gonna do when you want to put wraithlords in the army?!

-Spellbound