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The quality of the miniatures is very high; the plastics are made by the same company that makes the Malifaux plastics; the models do come in an extreme amount of pieces, though. The resins are also very nice, but I have had several pieces that were misaligned in the model and the model was noticeably offset. Thus are the hazards of resin.

The game is honestly a very fun game to play, it just sees new releases infrequently and when there is one, it can take a very long time to receive an order. For example, in the last year 3 new models have been released for the Warrior Nation faction. When the Holy Order models released in August, there were several of us that did not receive our pre-orders of those models until late October. The models are great, but the releases inconsistent.

And the whole bit about models for current factions in the KS for the new factions striking interest doesn't work, because it forces you to pledge towards one of the new factions in order to get them. If everything were fine and dandy, those models should be releasing over the course of the next year anyway. I mean if they want to release something brand new in a chunk, like a new faction, that's cool! But to withhold releases for current factions behind stretch goal barriers feels like a bummer.
   
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My gaming group plays so many games systems. 2 of my closest friend that play WWX consider this game their favourite out of all the gaming systems they play. It is one of my favourites too!

It takes some of the best bits of Infinity and adds in some great rules ideas to make for a fun and engaging game that keeps both players involved throughout unlike games like Warhammer.

Models are very high quality. Plastic is so good, but I am a resin fan and their resin is great quality, I have found few miscasts and isn't brittle or weak. Not had any of my painted models have anything break/fall off. I love infinity but I only wish they would change from metal which whilst high quality always has bits fall off. I'm lucky if I get a gaming night complete without at least one infinity model not having something fall off lol.

I urge anyone who has some doubts to give it a try. More people will get in to this game as it is growing and is too good to not grow.

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I agree. When I have seen people play it, it looks awesome and I love the rules. Also the quality is really high for this stuff. For a small and newer company they sure are doing a great job. In regards to some of the factions appearing to be odd and anything goes, I would have to disagree. I mean look at the factions:
Lawmen and Outlaws- Standard good vs bad wild west
Union and Confederates- Again a Civil war/post civil war given
Warrior Nation- Well this also makes a lot of sense
Golden Army- Including those south of the border makes sense as the USA has fought mexico a lot (well around that time ect)
Enlightened- Ok here is were it gets weird but at the same time, WWX needs something to make it unique and in this case its chemicals created by mad scientist- therefore since this faction is like the driving force for a lot of other things it makes sense.
Dark Nation- Well corrupted Warrior Nation- lots of games have corrupted factions so this isnt all that odd.
Holy Order and Watchers- Now here is where I assume most of the "huh?" factors comes in, yet if you consider they have built them up in their plot and they actually do make sense its not bad at all. Actually really cool. Also the fact you can play cowboys vs aliens is always a plus.
   
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OVERBOSS SHERIFF ALPHA here with the last update:

update #7

Mar 3 2015

Let's get to 500 backers! Jim Peterson Free model ready to unlock with your help.





   
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 Alpharius wrote:
OVERBOSS SHERIFF ALPHA here with the last update:

update #7

Mar 3 2015

Let's get to 500 backers! Jim Peterson Free model ready to unlock with your help.





I hate when people quote an image to post one sentence, but aw gak, there goes my resolve, I just want that miniature.

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Down Under

BountyPool?

DeadSherrif?

Concept looks cool, but wanna see at least a render before I love him to bits.

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 Pugnacious_Cee wrote:


And the whole bit about models for current factions in the KS for the new factions striking interest doesn't work, because it forces you to pledge towards one of the new factions in order to get them. If everything were fine and dandy, those models should be releasing over the course of the next year anyway. I mean if they want to release something brand new in a chunk, like a new faction, that's cool! But to withhold releases for current factions behind stretch goal barriers feels like a bummer.


To my knowledge they are not withholding current releases behind stretch goals. they still have all releases planned, but if the kickstarter did well enough they would get some newer units that would not show up for years out sooner. An example would be legendary Wyatt Earp hes scheduled for May release, he is not part of the KS.

As for invalidating the rules i just wanted to point out they have said the reason for not going with the new edition is to make sure the new factions get properly tested. I for one do not have the main book and pledge for one even if they get invalidated they will be great for fluff and i need something to learn the game. Those that dont need or feel they want it have the option to pledge without it .


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USA

Dregon01 wrote:


To my knowledge they are not withholding current releases behind stretch goals. they still have all releases planned, but if the kickstarter did well enough they would get some newer units that would not show up for years out sooner. An example would be legendary Wyatt Earp hes scheduled for May release, he is not part of the KS.

As for invalidating the rules i just wanted to point out they have said the reason for not going with the new edition is to make sure the new factions get properly tested. I for one do not have the main book and pledge for one even if they get invalidated they will be great for fluff and i need something to learn the game. Those that dont need or feel they want it have the option to pledge without it .



They want to add 4 factions to the game. Cool. That is what the money should be raised to do. Release 4 factions.

That should have nothing to do with a regular release schedule, and it shouldn't be bringing a cluster of models for existing factions with it. Let the new stuff come out naturally, with each thing adding to the game over time. Shouldn't we, as gamers, want them to have a healthy backlog of releases planned and releasing over the next few years?

If they don't feel like they have the 4 new factions-worth of models playtested enough to consider their rules worth hard print, how is pushing up releases for the other existing factions alongside those things helping the situation at all? From past experience with this game, more than a handful of models have been sold on one premise, been released, and then seen significant rule changes.

The game itself has been released and available for only a little over a year in total. During that time, they have released models that have had significant rules changes on multiple occasions, with the most notable being the complete change of how their Hired Hands (the grunts typically making up the bulk of a force) are costed as well as their rules. That change was notable, as well, because the point costs for those models dropped so significantly that if you had a force built to comfortably play a particular point level, overnight you had a fairly large gap in points to fill by needing more models. Other models changed not only rules, but actually changed entire factions! The portal gunner model (Fredrickson, I believe his name is) had a very heavy-handed rules change, and switched playable factions. And all of these are just rules for the particular models, not even addressing rule changes from the actual rule book.
   
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 Pugnacious_Cee wrote:
Dregon01 wrote:


To my knowledge they are not withholding current releases behind stretch goals. they still have all releases planned, but if the kickstarter did well enough they would get some newer units that would not show up for years out sooner. An example would be legendary Wyatt Earp hes scheduled for May release, he is not part of the KS.

As for invalidating the rules i just wanted to point out they have said the reason for not going with the new edition is to make sure the new factions get properly tested. I for one do not have the main book and pledge for one even if they get invalidated they will be great for fluff and i need something to learn the game. Those that dont need or feel they want it have the option to pledge without it .



They want to add 4 factions to the game. Cool. That is what the money should be raised to do. Release 4 factions.

That should have nothing to do with a regular release schedule, and it shouldn't be bringing a cluster of models for existing factions with it. Let the new stuff come out naturally, with each thing adding to the game over time. Shouldn't we, as gamers, want them to have a healthy backlog of releases planned and releasing over the next few years?

If they don't feel like they have the 4 new factions-worth of models playtested enough to consider their rules worth hard print, how is pushing up releases for the other existing factions alongside those things helping the situation at all? From past experience with this game, more than a handful of models have been sold on one premise, been released, and then seen significant rule changes.

The game itself has been released and available for only a little over a year in total. During that time, they have released models that have had significant rules changes on multiple occasions, with the most notable being the complete change of how their Hired Hands (the grunts typically making up the bulk of a force) are costed as well as their rules. That change was notable, as well, because the point costs for those models dropped so significantly that if you had a force built to comfortably play a particular point level, overnight you had a fairly large gap in points to fill by needing more models. Other models changed not only rules, but actually changed entire factions! The portal gunner model (Fredrickson, I believe his name is) had a very heavy-handed rules change, and switched playable factions. And all of these are just rules for the particular models, not even addressing rule changes from the actual rule book.


Fair enough. I was just denoting as a player that was interested and had not really joined in to now i have no problem with a future rule set coming out. I also know that much like myself there have been people that were interested more in the new factions then existing. I am all for new factions being the focus of the KS as now i have friends that will play in my area making the game more accessible. There has been huge anticipation for CR and GA here..


 
   
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The CR and GA are the two I like as well, and I'm currently pledged towards getting a single faction set... I just haven't decided between those two, yet.

The Confederates should have been one of the starting factions of the game, I think, instead of the Warrior Nation. The WN would have been something really different and exciting to add into the game at a later date, and could have had a couple of more WN-themed mercenary models to begin with to wet peoples' appetites for it.
   
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New Unlock for the DN plus all art is now shown for the SG's up to 135k.



 
   
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California the Southern

All those big models makes me tempted to just grab a bunch of individual things and ditch the factions altogether.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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I think that might be the direction I go on this. I might grab the CR faction because I love the character models in it. But after that it's just specific models.

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Earth 616

Can anyone comment on what size the average army is in a game of WWX? How many Hired Hands is found in a standard game?

I'm asking because I too like a lot of the models, but not any entire factions.
   
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 drazz wrote:
Can anyone comment on what size the average army is in a game of WWX? How many Hired Hands is found in a standard game?

I'm asking because I too like a lot of the models, but not any entire factions.


750 - 1250 seem to be the norm


 
   
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Cymru

Anyone know (or can ask for me in the kickstarter comments ) how big e greys are in the watchers faction?

WWX is too big to fit in with my collection so most minis are out but the greys look like they might be smaller than your average Bear......I mean human

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Greys are shorter than most other human models we have, closer to 32 or 33mm vs. the average 35mm human model.

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Cymru

Thanks for the Reply Sean.

P.s. Thought you did an awesome job on BOW (provided this isn't another Sean at outlaw in which case please pass on my praise)
If I wasn't so anal/ obsessive about minis fitting in with my existing collection I'd be neck deep in Warrior Nation and this kickstarter after that.

Good luck with the kickstarter and I sincerly hope you get to your all plastic goal

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Wanted to share with everyone a good look at the painted versions of our first four bosses:


I've played miniature games myself for about 17 years, and these are seriously the best detailed models I've gotten to work with. Not trying to toot my own horn too much, but the models themselves are amazing.
The game is fun to play and easy to learn like others have said.

Look forward to seeing more people pledge to this awesome project. We've put a lot into it.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wildwestexodus/wild-west-exodus-unfinished-business

@JoeRugby Thanks for the positive words! It was a lot of work but it was worth it I felt!

 
   
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UK

Their beta rules are also up on the ks. Which look rather tasty well apart from the watcher one, seems a bit hmmm
   
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Motograter wrote:
Their beta rules are also up on the ks. Which look rather tasty well apart from the watcher one, seems a bit hmmm


Why do they seem a bit hmmm?


 
   
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Aliens,. Nah. i`m not too sure I just think that compared to the others its lacking something but I can`t put my finger on what
   
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I'm sure the rules are playtested; I have never purchased anything from outlaw minis that didn't fit well (minis were never too op or up). I dont mean to speak for outlaw minis regarding playtesting, but i think what they mean to say is that they want community feedback before they incorporate all the new abilities into a 2nd edition rulebook (so they can include any updates or faq's).

They did this already once, changing the rule cards for the hired hands based on community feedback (the replacement cards are cheap too and therefore easily acquired by those who have the 1st edition units... another nice thing by outlaw).

As far as I know the 2nd edition rulebook won't be much different from the first as the only major changes will probably be:

1: current faq changes or clarification added (can already get that)
2: new abilities added with these new factions and characters (we will get those with this ks and they have posted the new abilities on their facebook... so the 1st edition rulebook is not moot).

I also have to agree with others here. I have been gaming for 16+ years and these minis are some of the best detailed, easily assembled, greatest quality minis out there. The game is a blast (I have seen several people leave 40k and other games to invest in this after playing demo games with me). Outlaw miniatures has the best customer service I've seen (if there is a miscast), and they strongly incorporate community feedback into their game/models.

For those on the fence I strongly suggest you get into this great game! (Either with this KS or with the starters on their website already).

Sean I was looking forward to adeptacon to meet you guys and fellow wwx'ers from the community... however it looks like I cant make it for a second year in a row :(

Oh and wild bill looks great! Yay for more lawmen! (Can we get a teaser of the wild bill or legendary earp sculpts?)


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I'm just hoping this new Ks will push the game outside the U.S.. A lot of UK and Europeans want to start but no one stocks any and ordering direct isn't worth it due to customs. In order for the game to grow they need to be looking into the UK and European market as well as the U.S.
   
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Motograter wrote:
I'm just hoping this new Ks will push the game outside the U.S.. A lot of UK and Europeans want to start but no one stocks any and ordering direct isn't worth it due to customs. In order for the game to grow they need to be looking into the UK and European market as well as the U.S.


How is the KS doing anything about this?

I completely agree with you: Outlaw Miniatures needs to change their current strategy to get a foot on the ground in the Europe/UK market. Their "no middle man" dogma just does not work here. The only retailer I know of selling in Continental Europe (Battlefield Berlin) just stopped doing so: the $/€-rate has become too bad, and postage plus customs added enough on top to make the range unprofitable. Add that OM was apparently not exactly helpful to deal with. It's a shame that they have to give up on WWX, but it never sold too well for them, and they are not a charity.

Ordering directly in the US is a nightmare: P&P is expensive, and often you have to add some considerable amount in customs too. It's not unusual to pay more than double the price - for an already expensive product!

Add all that together, and it's not a miracle that the game is only opopular during the KS campaigns. It's either impossible or horribly expensive to get the product outside of them. Try to promote that to somebody who hasn't had the luck of joining during one of the KS periods...

So while the current KS will get many of already existing players back on board, and might hook some "fresh blood", it does absolutely nothing for the infrastructure in the long term. I wish all the best for both Outlaw Miniatures and the success of the KS, but they really need to rethink their strategy outside of the US.





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Netherlands

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/outlaw-miniatures/wild-west-exodus/cat_2559.html
While they don't have it in stock, you can order it for a decent price and no shipping costs if you order 40GBP or more. Higher $/GBP conversion is a reality for us EU consumers, that translates into higher prices. If that means that prices from import goods get to high and folks stop buying them, prices at the distribution channel need to be lowered, because retailers won't take the hit if they can sell those same people other products with a higher margin.

The KS is EU friendly because they distribute from the EU locations, so no higher shipping costs, no VAT and no customs fees. If they didn't have that, this KS would have been pretty much horrendous for EU backers. More EU backers means more demand for expansions of either new releases or folks getting stuff they didn't pledge before, friends who also want to get in, etc.
   
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UK

 Darnok wrote:
Motograter wrote:
I'm just hoping this new Ks will push the game outside the U.S.. A lot of UK and Europeans want to start but no one stocks any and ordering direct isn't worth it due to customs. In order for the game to grow they need to be looking into the UK and European market as well as the U.S.


How is the KS doing anything about this?

I completely agree with you: Outlaw Miniatures needs to change their current strategy to get a foot on the ground in the Europe/UK market. Their "no middle man" dogma just does not work here. The only retailer I know of selling in Continental Europe (Battlefield Berlin) just stopped doing so: the $/€-rate has become too bad, and postage plus customs added enough on top to make the range unprofitable. Add that OM was apparently not exactly helpful to deal with. It's a shame that they have to give up on WWX, but it never sold too well for them, and they are not a charity.

Ordering directly in the US is a nightmare: P&P is expensive, and often you have to add some considerable amount in customs too. It's not unusual to pay more than double the price - for an already expensive product!

Add all that together, and it's not a miracle that the game is only opopular during the KS campaigns. It's either impossible or horribly expensive to get the product outside of them. Try to promote that to somebody who hasn't had the luck of joining during one of the KS periods...

So while the current KS will get many of already existing players back on board, and might hook some "fresh blood", it does absolutely nothing for the infrastructure in the long term. I wish all the best for both Outlaw Miniatures and the success of the KS, but they really need to rethink their strategy outside of the US.


Its not. Its what I hope happens. If they can get enough funding and with the push beasts of war gave them. I'm hoping that places will see people want this game and it is a safe bet. Yes though outlaw really do need to sort the game outside the U.S.

As for Wayland games, yeah they stock it but with their rep id sooner buy direct and pay customs




   
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Cergorach wrote:
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/outlaw-miniatures/wild-west-exodus/cat_2559.html


That's why I said "Continental Europe".

I'm aware that Wayland Games "stocks" WWX. But I'm also aware of their reputation - I ordered from them multiple times, and even with GW goods it can takes weeks and sometimes months - and with a product they have to order from the US before sending it to me... meh, I could almost wait for the next KS.

Again: I hope for the best for the KS and WWX in general. But with the current infrastructure in place the game will never take of in Europe and the UK.
   
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I do hope they improve access to the UK and EU also. I enjoy when a game can spread- it only will mean good things for its future! I think they will improve spread, given this KS.

Ok so some more things have been unlocked:





Two awesome figures have been unlocked. I look forward to when they release the stats for these guys.
   
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Cowboy Deadpool hell yeah
   
 
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