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So Orlanth mentioned having read some of Apocalypse Reloaded.

Has anyoen else had a read yet? Can we get some reviews or ideas of what NEW datasheets are in it? NEW Strategems?

I had a quick glance today when I was in picking up my rule book.

Sorry I can't give any details though as my memory is crap at the best of times.

Pretty much all the races have something in it.

It does look good for the price.

One general asset I can remember is you can randomly target any superheavies on the table with D3 destroyer hits.

Just make sure you don't put any down to make sure the enemy gets it.

read some cool stuff. thing i can remember that space marines can get some kind of holy relic. it will double your base attacks and i think if i remember correct at strenght 10(or double strenght with a max of 10). or something like that. also edar get some kind of gate. If i remember correctly all pshycic tests succeed automaticly and pshycic shooting doubles the strenght.

also think there is a space marine scout company in the book.

I've got the book-- it's good.


There's pics of the strategems list floating around-- pic won't attach at the moment though EDIT : and now it will !

Assets are ;

Universal : Replacements, hammer blow and trophy kill

Imperium : Disengage and rearm, Holy War-- awesome one for sisters here ! and general staff.

Guard ; Defence line, strongholds, on my coordinates and tank riders.

Marines ; Heroic stand, crusade banner and legion relic-- doubles base A and S10 power weapon, bad if he dies though.

orks : Da big waaagh, Effigy of Gork (or possibly Mork), Mek workshop and rok'em boyz

Tau: Darkstar warhead, Icefire warhead and Remote drone network.

Eldar : Waygate, Phantasm and Eldritch tempest,

Tyranids : They're all around us !, World digestion and Spore chimneys.

Chaos demons : Blood thirst of Khorne, Plaguestorm-- single sickest thing I've ever seen. Worse than the old Virus bomb card from 2nd edition, Mirage of Tzeentch, Grand pavane of Slaanesh and major possession.

Necrons : Subvert machine, cannibalise technology and reconstruction scarabs.

Chaos marines : Chaos Altar, Corrupt and despoil, indiscriminate bombardment and daemon shell-personal favourite at the moment.

Dark Eldar : Lords of twilight, Strike of the serpent, Webway assault.

I've seen the table of contents. I was hoping somebody had read it and knew what some of the datasheets did. But thanks about the strategems!

I see a few were taken from the website. still cool though. Not that I have the time nor money to build a Pleague Tower

Head over to the M&P section. Someone has.

I am loving the IG stuff but does anyone know what a Hellstorm is? cause it says there will be a squadron.

Ghost in the Darkness wrote:I am loving the IG stuff but does anyone know what a Hellstorm is? cause it says there will be a squadron.

Im pretty sure its a baneblade varient.

I'm really surprised. Usually if someone HAS a product in advance, there is some sort of review or mentioning of what the content is.

Would reds8n or someone else you has it already please let the rest of us in on what's in it before we purchase it?

Note, I don't mean the Table of Contents, but maybe some stats, details on datasheets....

Ghost in the Darkness wrote:I am loving the IG stuff but does anyone know what a Hellstorm is? cause it says there will be a squadron.

Squadron of three Hellhounds that can combine their shooting into blazing inferno.

Scottywan82 wrote:I'm really surprised. Usually if someone HAS a product in advance, there is some sort of review or mentioning of what the content is.

It is released here in Holland and thus in the UK too.

It also has a page for the "Stormlord", which is a Baneblade based transport for 40 guardsmen. It's main armament is the vulcan mega-bolter. It is depicted in a grey side drawing only, with a big red stamp "Classified" on it. Would this be a new entry in the IG codex?

Scottywan82 wrote:I'm really surprised. Usually if someone HAS a product in advance, there is some sort of review or mentioning of what the content is.

Would reds8n or someone else you has it already please let the rest of us in on what's in it before we purchase it?

Note, I don't mean the Table of Contents, but maybe some stats, details on datasheets....

Best Apocalypse release yet to my mind. Worth it for the race specific assets alone to my mind.

The Hellstorm one is 3+ Hellhounds. They can combine their fire within range and LOS of the command one. This now uses the Hellstorm template and ALL unsaved wounds inflict ID. Garg. beasties suffer d3 W instead.

Overall I'd say the chaos demons (narrowly) get the best formations, especially the Tetragon of darkness : all counts as just 1 unit for the demon deployment rules, consists of 1 Greater Demon and 1 squad of lesser demons from each power. The GD's deploy initially all within 24" of each other, then scatter. These four then form a box/quad shape into which the lesser demons DS without scattering at all. All demon units inside the tetragon can reroll failed invulnerable saves and are subject to night fighting rules when either shooting or being shot at.

Sisters get a nice asset : Holy War. For the whole game all units with the Adepta Soritos rule that starts its turn either in no mans land or the enemy DZ gets both rage and Relentless ! OUCH ! Serious carnage there I think.

Sickest thing is the Plaguestorm asset : cast by a Herald of Nurgle or a GUO, pick a model (friend or foe!) within 24".-- not a vehicle. That model suffers 2d6 minus T wounds no armour or cover save allowed. If this model dies pick another within 7" of it and repeat ... and repeat... and repeat.. until either a model doesn't fie or there are no models left within 7" to affect.

can't wait to inflict that on my mates Tyranids

I can't really type out the entire book but if there's any specific formations or assets people need to know about then shoot away and I'll pony up .

Other sheets I liked ;

Slaugterfiend Bloodpack:

3+ Slaughterfiends -- Defilers with 4 DCCW ! WS5 and 7A ! Also armed with a battle cannon and are possessed. they're basically ridden like super juggernauts by really loony champions of Khorne. All folded into the one improved statline.

Fleet and FC.

Blood Ride : A unit of berserkers within 2" of a 'fiend instead of shooting running clamber onto it-- they hang off of axes, hooks etc. they are then moved the same distance as the 'fiends run {see below) They may then assault as if they had fleet.

Slaughterthirst : For any run move they make they roll 2d6 ! If you roll a double 6 1 member of any carried berzerker squad is eaten !


Cult of Destruction :

3+ units of obliterators each of 3 models. They can combine their firepower into super destructive weapons-- bigger templates, D str etc etc.

reds8n wrote:
Sickest thing is the Plaguestorm asset : cast by a Herald of Nurgle or a GUO, pick a model (friend or foe!) within 24".-- not a vehicle. That model suffers 2d5 minus T wounds no armour or cover save allowed. If this model dies pick another within 7" of it and repeat ... and repeat... and repeat.. until either a model doesn't fie or there are no models left within 7" to affect.

can't wait to inflict that on my mates Tyranids

Hello Virus Grenade?

My memory isn't the best, but that sure is bringing back memories of 2nd edition!

How about the Imperial Shield Infantry Company, the Armored Fist Mechanized Company, and the Lord Castellan's Supreme Command?

haven't gotten/seen the book yet.. can anyone describe what the nid stuff is?

Lord Castellan's supreme command :

Creed,
1 command squad containing a heroic officer
1 sanc. psyker
1 commisar
1 priest
1 techpriest
3 command squads led by senior officers,

Usual formation deployment rules.
masters of strategy : as well as usual assets gain one of the following per command squad : bunkers, careful planning, supreme headquarters, general staff.
High command ; at start of each turn pick one of the special rules granted by the Supreme HQ asset : for the rest of that turn all guard units within 24" benefit from this.

Imperial shield infantry company ;

1 command platoon
3-6 infantry platoons ( may take optional advisors/support as usual)


gains : On my coordinates, scheduled bombardment and defence lines assets.

Mech company formation :

Platoon ;
3 armoured fist squads-- 1 must be nominated command tank.

usual deployment rules
Objective sighted :Whilst command tank is mobile any tank within 6" of it (and in the platoon) treats all non dangerous terrain as Roads.

company :

3 mech platoons-- as above + 1 command squad in a chimera.

24" deployment rule

Objective sighted rule as above and all squads in the company within 24" of the command squad get Hold at all costs.

Assets ;

Defence line--place up to 36" of fortifications that grant a 3+ cover save.

Strongholds --place 3 buildings either in your DPZ or no mans land. These are AV14 and can hold 10. Firing points and access as model and agreement with your opponent.

On My coordinates-- LD test for a vox.master vox model, brings down an orbital barrage centred on the vox model. Further barrages can be called down this way once per turn.

tank riders-- Whenever a guard tank moves 1 infantry unit within 2" of it moves the same distance ending their move within 2" of the tank. D6 each time you try it-- on a 1 a model is squished to death. Unit can run or shoot normally as if they had moved, they may even assault.


General Staff asset-- general Imperium one-- all Imperial units can roll 3d6 when taking a LD test and choose any 2-- you can use this to fail.

Howsa that then fella ?

Necros wrote:haven't gotten/seen the book yet.. can anyone describe what the nid stuff is?

Yes :

Genestealer infestation :


1+ Broodlord
3+ stealer broods
3+ lictors.

Secret deployment : All models are held in reserve and then deploy like lictors-- "secret deployment". Any unit that cannot--lack of terrain etc-- DS instead but within 12" of another formation member.

Every man for himself-- when the formation deploys on that turn no non tyranid model can use/benefit from another models Ld score-- use the lowest in any unit.

Kraken tendril swarm:


3+ 20+ strong gaunt broods.
1+ warrior broods
1+ gargoyle brood

Strike force--deploy/come on within 6" of the warrior brood.

The Tendril constricts : Whole swarm (!) has strategic deployment asset. However the usual restriction on being unable to go within 12" of the enemy is reduced to 3" instead.

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Behemoth Crusher Brood


3 + fex'es. Must have at least the extended carapace, crushing claws and exoskel. biomorphs
0+ stone crusher fexes
0-2 scythed 'dules.

Strike force-- 6" deployment thingy.

Crusher 'fexes-- any fex in the formation may have 2 sets of crushing claws giving 2d6 A + tail, charge bonus etc.

Hyperactive assault-- formation gains fleet !

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Eye of the Hive



3+ warrior broods of at least 5 warriors.

Strike force--6" blah blah

Alien evolution-- If any of the formation survive the game then next time the tyranid player plays against the same opponent --even in multi player games -- he gets an extra strat. asset. This is NOT cumulative.

Synaptic mastery :

In shooting phase pass a psychic test to be able to cast : Conduit.

All tyranid units within 12" gain catalyst and preferred enemy until the start of the next Tyranid turn.
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Living fortress

2+ Tyrants must have enhanced senses and extended carapace
5+ tyrant guard

Slow and purposeful-- Slow and etc

Feel No Pain-- all gain FnP

Fortress of chitin-- when a living fortress chooses to "go to ground" they " as well as enjoying an improved cover save also gain +1 armour save. This means that when they go to ground the unit will have a 2+ save.2


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ASSETS :

They're all around us !

Start of enemy movement phase.

Rest of game : all area terrain is dangerous terrain for non tyranid models.

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Spore chimneys

Before deployment.

Place up to 3 spore chimneys in own DPZ or no mans land. Any shooting by or at a unit within 12" has night fight penalties.

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World Digestion
Before deployment
may place up to 6 of the following either in own DPZ or no mans land. None to be larger than 6" insize.

--digestion pool-- impassable terrain to all infantry, glancing hit on vehicles on a 4=

-- ravenous plant life : The area counts as dangerous terrain to all non tyranid units either in it or within 6".

--- Swarm tunnels. Stealers, gaunts and rippers held in reserve may enter as if using the tunnels asset from the main APOC book.


Please excuse the double post.

wow lots of niddy goodness.. I love the fleeting crushafex idea too

Necros wrote:haven't gotten/seen the book yet.. can anyone describe what the nid stuff is?

From the brief glance at the page a few days ago, I saw a formation of mixed TMC's IIRC Hive Tyrants, Lictors and Carnifex.

reds8n, cheers for the info!! Looks like a must buy this one

Wow, the Slaughterfiend Bloodpack is awesome. I'm gonna have to get some more Defilers. Do you think you could put up what the Lords of the Black Crusade and possibly the Skulltaker's Cohort of Blood do? I've appreciated all the posts so far

What's the Huron Blackheart Formation about?

What about Necrons? Any word on what their stuff is?

CK

Could you please list some more Chaos entries? Particularly the Skulltaker datasheet, I just spent hours mounting him on a juggernaut, and am a little obsessed with him right now. Thanks for the posts!

Those Necron things sound neat. Wonder what they are. Perhaps I finaly start apoc..

Ahhhhhahahahahah the Chaos assets are rekindling my interest in APOC big time, loving this new stuff. Demon Shell is tons of (anime-esque) fun for sure

Thanks Red, great posts.

- Salvage

Any word on what the Hounds of Huron do?

reds8n wrote:
Necrons : Subvert machine, cannibalise technology and reconstruction scarabs.

Reconstruction scarabs? Whatever they do, sign me up!