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Here's the better list. Got rid of that stupid Warphead. Unreliable, in the end. I considered Snikrot but I think I will stick with Armour.

Big Mek, "The Big Mek"
Kustom Force Field, Burna, 'Eavy Armour, Bosspole, 2x Grot Oiler
1x 10x Meganobz
10x TL Shoota
Battlewagon (Transport)
2x Big Shoota, Armour Plates, Boarding Plank, Grabbin' Klaw, Grot Rigger, Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram, Stikkbomb Chuka, Wreckin' Ball

1x 10x Lootas

Deff Dred, "The Big Tako" (Troop)
2x CCW, 2x Skorcha, Armour Plates, Grot Rigger

2x 30x Shoota Boyz
3x Big Shootas

1x 3x Killer Kans, "The Kans"
3x Grotzooka, 3x Grot Rigger

1x 3x Killer Kans, "The Eye Kandy"
3x Kustom Mega Blasta, 3x Grot Rigger

Battlewagon
Killkannon, 2x Big Shoota, Deff Rolla, Grabbin' Klaw, Grot Rigger, Red Paint Job, Wreckin' Ball

// 1850

ERE WE GO.

The first Battlewagon, Dred and Kans form a center. The Dred runs the Kans fire their weapons, including the AP2. The Meganobs are looking to assault. The Lootas sit in cover. The Shoota boys hold the flanks and the second Battlewagon causes trouble. Shoota boyz can load up, or it can run around with the Deff Rolla if it loses the Killkannon.

I think I like the Battlewagons. The Big Shootas are just in case they get a Weapon Destroyed. I might model a Zzap gun on the first one with some Grot Oilers trying to fix it, but it is only BS2 now, so boo.

The other thing I like is that the 3 Troop are relatively harmless, while Fearless at the same time.

Definately paint-worthy.

what is the troop dred going to do it needs to get close and will be an easy killed troop choice in the first few turns i'd recommend giving it some long ranged firepower as it can sit in its home objective and fire away while being in cover so the reast of your army can move up and take other objectives or kill points other than that it looks like a good list for orks

it's running beside the Battlewagon until the Scorchas are in range.

I would if the guns were twin-linked.

and thanks. I am happy about it I think. The only thing it is missing are 4 to 6 Buggies or Dethcoptas w/ Anti-tank but there are plenty of Power Klaws, Wrecking Balls etc.

Here's another go w/ the same models. I am getting excited here. I am starting with two of the new Macragge sets.

Big Mek, "Da Boss"
Burna, Kustom Force Field, 'Eavy Armour, Bosspole
1x 6x Nobz, "Da Nobz"
6x Big Choppa, 6x 'Eavy Armour, Stikkbombs, Waaagh! Banner
Trukk
Grot Rigger, Red Paint Job, Big Shoota

1x 10x Lootas, "Da Gun Boyz"

Deff Dred, "Da Big Tako" (Troop selection)
2x CCW, 2x Skorcha, Armour Plates, Grot Rigger

1x 20x Slugga Boyz, "Da Boyz"
Nob w/ Power Klaw, 'Eavy Armour and Bosspole
2x Rokkit Launcha

2x 30x Shoota Boyz, "Da Udder Boyz"
3x Big Shoota

3x 1x Warbuggies, "Da Warbuggies"
1x TL Rokkit Launcha, Red Paint Job

1x 3x Killer Kans, "Da Eye Kandy"
3x Kustom Mega-Blasta, 3x Grot Rigger

Battlewagon (ride for Da Boyz)
2x Big Shoota, Reinforced Ram, Stikkbomb Chuka
Armour Plates, Grot Rigger, Red Paint Job, Grabbin' Klaw, Wreckin' Ball, Boarding Plank

Battlewagon
Killkannon, 2x Big Shoota, Deff Rolla
Grot Rigger, Red Paint Job, Grabbin' Klaw, Wreckin' Ball

// 1846

I am a little concerned about KP (is it better to have one squad of two Warbuggies, or three squads of single ones).

But I like it, and it is a nice addition of models to the first crew, rounding it out nicely around 2500 or so all together. I will probably convert Warbuggies out of Death Coptas I think.

That, and tweak the anti-infantry/ anti-tank shooting. Rokkits are good against 4+ and 3+ anyway.

I am not 100% sure about this, but a dread that is taken as a troop choice, still can't hold objectives. I am pretty sure that vehicles can only contest even if they are a troop choice ie landspeeders in DA/DW or tanks in some of the imperial guard docterines... anyone know for sure ?

pg 90 of the little rule book.

"There are a few exceptions, however, when a unit of troops does not count as scoring:

- if it is a vehicle

- if it has the swarm special rule

- if it has a special rule specifying it never counts as a scoring unit"

crap!

thanks.