Translated Rumors from Spanish website(Bad News Dark Eldar fans)

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**NecronLord3**

From: http://www.cargad.com/
SPANISH:

Gracias a un pajarito, os damos un montón de noticias MUY FIABLES sobre qué lanzará Games Workshop durante 2.009. Obviamente, seguro lo que se dice seguro no hay nada, pero es bastante seguro

* Marzo: la Guerra del Anillo. Un suplemento para que SdA sea un juego de batallas y no de escaramuzas. Venderán incluso unas peanas de plástico para “adaptar” o “poner en filas” las minis de El Señor de los Anillos.
* Abril: viene la Guardia Imperial. Pocas miniaturas nuevas, pero habrá algo (y grande).
* Mayo: Fantasy, segunda oleada de miniaturas del Imperio. Al ya conocido Tanque a Vapor se le unen (por fin) los Grandes Espaderos de plástico. Veremos también el nuevo Altar de Guerra.
* Julio: Warhammer 40.000 Planet Strike. Un suplemento para asaltos planetarios. La escenografía dicen que es la mejor que se ha visto nunca.
* Agosto: Elfos para SDA.
* Setiembre: ¿Os acordáis de que os dijimos que para 2.009 se iba a reeditar un clásico? Pues ya podemos decir que se trata de SPACE HULK. Con nuevas miniaturas (impresionantes) entre otras de Exterminadores y Genestealers. Sin duda, el bombazo de 2.009 (y ahora a esperar que también reediten Heroquest). Ah, nos han dicho que puede que el precio sea alto, así que comprar en Inglaterra se vuelve imprescindible.
* Octubre: Es posible (pero está sin confirmar) que de Warhammer Fantasy veamos a los Skavens.
* En Noviembre es altamente probable que veamos el códex de cierto capítulo de Marines, pero aún no está confirmado.

Y ahora, unas noticias breves:

* Para el 2.010, parece casi seguro que habrá nuevo códex de Tiránidos y Angeles Sangrientos (aprovechando el tirón de Space Hulk), y se dice que Necrones o (atención) Tau.
* De Fantasy el primer ejército que veremos será el de Khemri. Sin noticias de las Bestias del Caos.
* Hay una buena noticia y una mala noticia para los fans de los Eldar Oscuros. La buena es que el proyecto está acabado, libro y miniaturas. La mala es que por baja popularidad del códex, se ha descartado su lanzamiento.
* Un rumor que había aparecido sobre que Games Workshop podía “dejar de lado” los libros impresos y pasar a dar los PDF gratis (como ya hacía en Japón) está desmentido.

Eso es todo. Damos las gracias a quien nos ha soplado las noticias (que seguirá en el anonimato).

ENGLISH:

Thanks to a small bird, we give a pile you of the VERY TRUSTWORTHY news exceeds what Games Workshop will send during 2.009. Obvious, surely what it is said safe is nothing, but he is quite safe *
March: the War of Anillo. I supplement so that SdA is a game of battles and not of skirmishes. They will even sell plastic pedestals for “adapting” or “putting in rows” minis of the Gentleman of the Ring. *
April: the Imperial Guard comes. Few new miniatures, but will be something (and great). *
May: Fantasy, second big wave of miniatures of the Empire. To already known Tank Steam they are united (finally) Great the Espaderos to him of plastic. We will also see the new Altar military. *
Julio: Warhammer 40,000 Planet Strike. I supplement for planetary assaults. The stage scene says that it is the best one than it has never been seen.
* August: Elfos for SDA.
* September: You remember that we said to you that for 2,009 was going away to reedit a classic one? Then already we can say that one is SPACE HULK. With new miniatures (impressive) among others of Exterminadores and Genestealers. Without a doubt, the explosion of 2,009 (and now to hope that also they reedit Heroquest). Ah, has said to us that perhaps the price is high, so to buy in England it becomes essential.
* October: It is possible (but it is without confirming) that of Warhammer Fantasy we see the Skavens.
* In November it is highly probable that we see códex of certain chapter of Marin, but not yet is confirmed. And now, the brief news:
* For the 2,010, it almost seems certainly there will be new códex of Tiránidos and Bloody Angeles (taking advantage of the pull of Space Hulk), and says that Necrones or (attention) Tau.
* Of Fantasy the first army that we will see will be the one of Khemri. Without the news of the Beasts of the Chaos.
* There is the good news and the bad news for fans of the Eldar Dark. The good one is that the project is finished, book and miniatures. The bad one is that by low popularity of códex, its launching has discarded.
* A rumor that had appeared envelope that Games Workshop could “leave of side” printed books and to happen to give the pdf free (since already it did in Japan) is denied. That is everything. We give thanks to who has blown the news to us (that she will follow in the anonymity).

Thanks to Bablefish for the translation: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

**Mahu**

So "we have the codex and minatures done, and invested all this time and effort into it, but it won't be popular so we are not going to release it".

I doubt it.

**Hellfury**

It was postulated year or so ago that space hulk was going to be redone somehow. I recall a huge thread in the warseer rumours that hinted at it.

At the end of march 2007, I asked Detris vie PM on Warseer the following question:

Hopefully this rumour will pan out to be true.

But since the same source said that the dark eldar are discarded, I somehow doubt the veracity of the rest of the rumours. There is no way they are going to spend that much man hours developing something to say "nah, nevermind".

[edit to add image as verifiable truth of what was said]

**Dexy**

I want to play Gentleman of the Ring. Is this some kind of posh boxing minitures game?

**Shibboleth02**

Are you really thanking Babelfish for the translation, or were you being sarcastic? Because that's a pretty crap translation job. Yes, we can understand (kind of) what its talking about, but seriously, that's awkward english, at best.

**Destrado**

Maybe it was poorly phrased, and the release was put on hold. Don't know, doesn't make much sense if Jes has been working on them for this long.

Space Hulk sounds fantastic, though!

**NecronLord3**

Hellfury wrote:

But since the same source said that the dark eldar are discarded, I somehow doubt the veracity of the rest of the rumours. There is no way they are going to spend that much man hours developing something to say "nah, nevermind".

I don't think it is that far fetched at all. Considering that the leaked images of the new Homunculi were said to just be 'test' pieces and were not going to go into production. GW does often try different things and depending on the logistics of the project it goes forward or is shelved. I think a better translation of "disguarded" could easily have been shelved. Considering that the Dark Eldar have sold so poorly that they refuse to carry their product in any of their company stores, GW probably felt that the market for the Dark Eldar should at least be better if they are going to push for a new release of them. Perhaps when the Economy is better, or GW can find a way to tie the Dark Eldar into a major release. Personally, I would at least put the new book out and repackage some older models and give the dedicated Dark Eldar something, while at the same time testing the waters for a DE rerelease. Perhaps release new DE models, slowly over a couple of years with the Collectors range, instead of dedicating major resources to a risky DE release that could fail and damage the entire brand.

**JohnHwangDD**

So, if we clean it up a bit...

Mar: LotR War of Ring mass battle with new movement trays

Apr: 40k Imperial Guard comes. (yay!)

May: WFB Empire Wave 2 with Steam Tank and War Altar

Jul: 40k PlanetStrike!

Aug: LotR Elfs

Sep: Space Hulk w/ new Termies & Genestealers, possible hope for Heroquest?

Oct: WFB Skaven?

Nov: 40k SM of some sort?

2010

* 40k is Tyranids & Blood Angels, with either Necrons or Tau.

* Fantasy gets Khemri. No word on Beasts of Chaos.

* Dark Eldar project is finished, book and miniatures, but low popularity of means no release.

* GW won't move to free PDF rules

Mar is Apoc Stompa & Shadowsword, so the Q1 rumors are messed up.

Mar/Apr LotR seems to have sold well enough to move from single-model skirmish to mass battle of units a la 40k2, necessitating "round peg-square hole" multi-bases. One hopes third time's the charm and the transition goes well.

April/May sees new IG, as expected and previously confirmed. Got my budget all set for those Valks!

May/June brings out the plastic Steam Tank, which is going to save GW a ton of money on materials - the Steam Tank is easily the biggest pile of metal that GW still sells. The Walter is nice, too.

July brings Planetstrike as the big thing for the Summer - awesome extra use for the Valks!

Aug is more LotR. Meh.

Sep bringing back Space Hulk is simply awesome. I will buy the Termie models if reasonably priced. Let's hope this heralds a new 40k5+ Skirmish engine to replace the 40k2-based stuff, allowing for Gork, Necro, Kill Team, etc.

Nov being SM of some sort is probably Woofs, which are still on their 3E Codex and desperately in need of a rules update. Plus, GW can recut the bitz and sell out.

2010 Nids & Blood Angels are good, and I wonder what the BA bitz sprue will be, along with timing.

I assume Necrons get the nod, as they've got much more rules problems that need fixing.

I'm surprised GW claims DE are ready for relaunch, but chooses not to. That's competely bizarre. But very Squattish.

And of *course* GW isn't getting out of the printing business. Their pulp fiction literally prints money, and the glossy pictures are what sells the models.

**Grubsnik**

Well, the translation is fairly...idiosyncratic...to say the least, so god alone (or anyone who speaks Spanish) knows what it meant to say.

**Hellfury**

NecronLord3 wrote:
Hellfury wrote:

But since the same source said that the dark eldar are discarded, I somehow doubt the veracity of the rest of the rumours. There is no way they are going to spend that much man hours developing something to say "nah, nevermind".

I don't think it is that far fetched at all.

Your frikking kidding me right?

GW spends X amount of dollars writing a codex, sculpting models, taking photos and every other thing that they do in order to release an army, and then suddenly they come to the conclusion that "it wont sell" out of the blue?

nah dude, thats effing slowed.

[edit] as has been said before, GW can be dumb at times, but they most certainly aren't stupid.

**Death By Monkeys**

Yeah, I'm pretty suspect about the whole Dark Eldar thing, too. I can't believe that both the book and the miniatures are done, but they're not going to release anything. That sounds pretty bogus to me....either that or they reviewed the work they did and decided that it didn't mark a noticeable change in how crap the DE model line and fluff already are and so decided to hold off (though with Jes Goodwin in charge of the models for it I can't believe they'd be that bad. I don't think I've ever seen a Jes Goodwin model I didn't like.)

**gorgon**

There was a rumor going around that they finished at least one draft of the DE codex, but that Rick Priestley didn't think it was up to snuff, so he sent it back to the designers for a rewrite. I have a feeling that's what was lost in translation (either in the actual translation or by the original poster).

Regarding Necrons, at least one usually-in-the-know poster (Harry) on Warseer is saying that they haven't started them yet...as in not even a single concept sketch. Methinks they'll be late 2010 or more likely 2011.

Also, SWs seem almost confirmed for 2009, and Harry's also been alluding to a mystery codex in 2009 that's not DE. Seems like it has to be either Tyranids or Tau.

**Destrado**

Grubsnik wrote:Well, the translation is fairly...idiosyncratic...to say the least, so god alone (or anyone who speaks Spanish) knows what it meant to say.

It says what it says. The release date has been discarded. Most likely they're thinking of another release date - it could've been pulled back. I doubt the project was cancelled.

**JohnHwangDD**

Perhaps GW saw my post on the 40k6 boxed set and will follow up on my suggested armies: IG vs DE?

**ubermosher**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
July brings Planetstrike as the big thing for the Summer - awesome extra use for the Valks!

With the huge caveat of assuming the rumors are true, I'm wondering if plastic IG stormtroopers will be part of a Planetstrike release, since they didn't appear on the list of first week IG releases.

**GoFenris**

Grubsnik wrote:Well, the translation is fairly...idiosyncratic...to say the least, so god alone (or anyone who speaks Spanish) knows what it meant to say.

You beat me to it! Until someone that understands the language and it's subtleties, it's still somewhat speculation.

On a lighter note...

SPACE HULK!!! Ahhhh Yeah!!!!

**Defiler**

That's extremely unlikely.

Jess Goodwin himself has stated via podcast (as of 2-3 months ago) that he was halfway through the plastics process, and it's been whispered that the book has been done for a while now - redone because of a Jervis veto.

Multiple others - Brimstone, Harry, Dakka's own Yakface and so forth have claimed to have seen new models - which I believe - and I can't believe for a second they would go through the whole process of finishing the line and not releasing them.

Delays I can understand. The company puts out guaranteed profitable releases in the near future during our economy woes - like Guard, Nids, Space Wolves, but I was getting the picture GWS doesn't do things like create whole lines and then fail to release them. They've learned from past mistakes.

So my unprofessional final verdict - I don't buy it at all. I'm certain Dark Eldar is still coming, just the time is unknown.

**ArbitorIan**

I'm playing Bloody Angels...

**99MDeery**

What about Planetstrike to get people involved in the DE, for an army that is based around raiding and hit and run tactics would it not be perfect to tie it in to that release, or is that just wishful thinking on my part?

**NecronLord3**

I think GW would be smart to release more boxed sets like the Assault on Black Reach box. That set contains an awesome set of starting miniatures for players to begin with or supplement an existing army. Releasing the DE Vs. another army would IMO, go along way toward making the DE more profitable for GW. If it were up to me, I would try to put at least one of these out each year.

**Hellfury**

gorgon wrote:There was a rumor going around that they finished at least one draft of the DE codex, but that Rick Priestley didn't think it was up to snuff, so he sent it back to the designers for a rewrite. I have a feeling that's what was lost in translation (either in the actual translation or by the original poster).

Thats far more likely a reason to 'table' the army for awhile as opposed to "it wont sell".

GW already stated quite firmly that if an army has a codex, it will always have a codex.
It simply makes no business sense whatsoever to even a laymen to spend money on development, and not at least offer the product to the public to try and recoup the cost of production and development.
Besides, everyone jumps on the new army bandwagon every release, so GW are quite aware of the compulsory collecting habits of their consumers.

**redstripe**

JohnHwangDD wrote:

I'm surprised GW claims DE are ready for relaunch, but chooses not to. That's competely bizarre. But very Squattish.

Are we sure that John isn't the source of these rumors?

EDIT: Love the Rimmer avatar, Hellfury.

**NecronLord3**

Hellfury wrote:
Your frikking kidding me right...

You obviously have ZERO background in marketing. It is not uncommon and usually quite beneficial for a company to spend money on a project, realize that it will not be profitable(for what ever reason) and cut your loses rather than moving forward with a project that could cost your company even more money.

**AgeOfEgos**

Are the tiles for Space Hulk being made into 3D plastic? Please say yes

.

**GoFenris**

Defiler wrote:That's extremely unlikely.

Jess Goodwin himself has stated via podcast (as of 2-3 months ago) that he was halfway through the plastics process, and it's been whispered that the book has been done for a while now - redone because of a Jervis veto.

Multiple others - Brimstone, Harry, Dakka's own Yakface and so forth have claimed to have seen new models - which I believe - and I can't believe for a second they would go through the whole process of finishing the line and not releasing them.

Delays I can understand. The company puts out guaranteed profitable releases in the near future during our economy woes - like Guard, Nids, Space Wolves, but I was getting the picture GWS doesn't do things like create whole lines and then fail to release them. They've learned from past mistakes.

So my unprofessional final verdict - I don't buy it at all. I'm certain Dark Eldar is still coming, just the time is unknown.

99MDeery wrote:What about Planetstrike to get people involved in the DE, for an army that is based around raiding and hit and run tactics would it not be perfect to tie it in to that release, or is that just wishful thinking on my part?

Hellfury wrote:
gorgon wrote:There was a rumor going around that they finished at least one draft of the DE codex, but that Rick Priestley didn't think it was up to snuff, so he sent it back to the designers for a rewrite. I have a feeling that's what was lost in translation (either in the actual translation or by the original poster).

Thats far more likely a reason to 'table' the army for awhile as opposed to "it wont sell".

GW already stated quite firmly that if an army has a codex, it will always have a codex.
It simply makes no business sense whatsoever to even a laymen to spend money on development, and not at least offer the product to the public to try and recoup the cost of production and development.
Besides, everyone jumps on the new army bandwagon every release, so GW are quite aware of the compulsory collecting habits of their consumers.

All valid points! I really like the Planetstrike idea and I hate to admit this but I actually agree with Hellfury too.

**Hellfury**

GoFenris wrote:I hate to admit this but I actually agree with Hellfury too.

Thanks Stelek.

**Hellfury**

NecronLord3 wrote:

Hellfury wrote:
Your frikking kidding me right...

You obviously have ZERO background in marketing. It is not uncommon and usually quite beneficial for a company to spend money on a project, realize that it will not be profitable(for what ever reason) and cut your loses rather than moving forward with a project that could cost your company even more money.

You are obviously TROLLING.
Not that I disagree that it is common for a company to stop a project, but try deductive reasoning for one moment.

1)various developers have been quoted as to whats going on in vague terms for the DE.
2)GW isn't the sort of company to throw away money, and then refuse to make money, on even a horrible product. (metal chaos possessed is one very good example)

thus while DE may be on the back burner longer than expected, I seriously suspect all of this hoopla is based on:
1) bad translation of the original poster
2) if the translation is correct, then the poster is misinformed.

I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

**warpcrafter**

EXTERMINADORES!

And on a lighter note, the reason that the Dark Eldar don't sell well is because the minis' suck! If the new ones are better, and they get a new Codex, they will probably perk right up.

**ShumaGorath**

Isn't this how the spanish american war got started?

I doubt they'll just scrap DE. They're already to prevalent in the fluff and feature much to prominently in the rulebook. It's not a squat thing where they can just roll over additions and leave an army behind, this would be a case of full representation but a missing army.

**His Master's Voice**

NecronLord3 wrote:

Hellfury wrote:
Your frikking kidding me right...

You obviously have ZERO background in marketing.

What does that have to do with marketing? Besides, if they can sell Stompas, they can sell a new (in effect) army that generates a lot of hype. If they're pulling a finished prject from launching they're in a pretty bad shape.

I sure hope the source got that wrong and everything else right. Especially the Hulk part. I recall GW had an idea to replace the old hourglass with a heartbeat timer - the less time you have the faster it beats. Pure win.