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With the truescale bandwagon going so well, it was a matter of when, not if, I was going to jump on it. And I have.

After reaing "The Horus Heresy, Collected Visions", I´ve rekindled my love for the armored deathmachines that are the Astartes. And I´ve decided to go with Blood angels, biggerized and decked out mostly in Mk. V and VI type armor. These will be used for games of "Movie Marines vs the world", and for some =I= Munda scenarios this summer as well. Heck, if I really get into it, I may make them a strike force sized unit. We´ll see.

Anyways, here are some pics, showing where I´m at right now. The first guy (In a mixed Mk VI/VII armor) is getting his paint on, and the second guy (In pure Mk V armor) is almost reasy to join him on the paint station. They are still missing one shoulder pad, since I went and ordered some from forgeworld, and these are still on the way...

Next up, will be the sergeant, in mostly Mk VI, and the missile launcher dude, who will be sporting Mk V, and a rather different missile launcher system. But that´s for later.

In case you are wondering what the different Mk´s mean, here are two pages, explaining a bit about them:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=43
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_Armour

Piccies!

These look great. Out of interest could you put in some photos next to a none biggerised marine? Are you planning to use Rogue Trader era models for inspiration?

Thanks Llama.

I sure can put up comparison shots. Rogue trader models, the Horus Heresy book, and various other sources, are all used for inspiration. I´m planning on a unit of 4-5 for now, to use as NPC´s in =I=Munda. More are likely to follow.

lol what is truescale? just bigger marines?

by the way like the pre heresy armour

GW uses a 28mm "heroic" scale where 28-30mm tall models represent figures that are about 6' tall. Since Marines are supposed to be taller than the average IG footslogger, making them "Truescale" better represents the size and power of the Adeptus Astartes.

Yeah, what Gavin said. Truescale basically means bigger marines.

People generally seem to be stretching them about 7-8mm, making them huge hulking beasts compared to IG, and larger than your average ork.

I´ve gone with terminator legs and arms, stretched and GS´ed where necessary, and terminator shoulder pads. I´ve ordered a set of FW terminator shoulder pads as well, to see if they will work for this.

The chest pieces are what takes most time, they need GS work in order to fit both height, width and depth wise.

Thanks for the kind words guys, I´ll try and finish the first guy tonight, so you can see where I´m going.

ahhh right. i really like them i just cant get why they are around? lol i mean the models of SM are larger than IG anyway.... seems a bit annoying. GW should have made marines this big in the first place (no annoyance aimed at you guys!)

Great stuff, as usual, Xan - I can see your continued love for the SM Scout head. I think the cabling on the helmeted marine's legs looks a little bulky, but I'm sure not going to condemn the model for that. Great execution.

Sorry I didn't mention it before, but these are great TS Marines Xan. I remember the Heresy armor's leg studs being staggered instead of in line though, but it looks good on your model.

One thing to remember baoh, is that "movie marines" are supposed to be hulking monsters. They're 7'+ muscle-bound behemoths that look like they're afflicted with gigantism (think Andre the giant - wide faces, necks and hands) so they should be just about comparable in size to ogryns. If Hulk Hogan and Abraham Lincol had a love child, it might be a true-scale Astartes.

I totally and utterly agree baoh. They should have upped the scale for marines, so they matched with their own fluff.

Of course this way each and every "true scale" marine is a testament to someone spending time and effort, so that´s kinda cool too I suppose...

Death by monkeys, thanks for the kind words. Yeah the scout heads just seem to have more life than the generic SM heads..
The leg cabling on this guy was mainly a test, to see if I was able to work with GS in that way. Some of the following ones will have more standard looking cabling.

The studs seem to vary depending on sources, so I´ve done lined on this one, will probably do staggered on aonther.
Whst I´m going for is greater individualism among the marines. Trying to make each suit of armor look as if it has been custom made, rather than stamped out.

Oh, and as for how big these guys are, the grenade the new guy is holding is a flamer tank with additional bits, and his bolter = Scout HB.

Good work, Xanthos!

I suppose I will have to try my hand at this truescale thing at some point.

Personally, I've never seen the need to "upscale" the weapons as they seem pretty exaggerated already. As for the abdomin, have you considered obfuscating it with bits such as ammo pouches, tabards, etc? That may reduce the amount of greenstuff work you need to do.

True, the weapons are over the top in 40K, but I just can´t help myself

Plus, the regular boltgun looks TINY in their hands...

Looking pretty good so far.

I like the cabling so far, it's well executed and should look fine after a bit of paint. I second the recommendation for ammo pouches, holsters, purity seals (?), but less for covering the chest area than for giving each model more definition and character.

Gavin Thorne wrote:Sorry I didn't mention it before, but these are great TS Marines Xan. I remember the Heresy armor's leg studs being staggered instead of in line though, but it looks good on your model.

One thing to remember baoh, is that "movie marines" are supposed to be hulking monsters. They're 7'+ muscle-bound behemoths that look like they're afflicted with gigantism (think Andre the giant - wide faces, necks and hands) so they should be just about comparable in size to ogryns. If Hulk Hogan and Abraham Lincol had a love child, it might be a true-scale Astartes.

haha love child! you have a point with the 'movie marines thing'............ y'know a truescale SM with jaws' face would be hilarious!

Xanthos wrote:I totally and utterly agree baoh. They should have upped the scale for marines, so they matched with their own fluff.

Of course this way each and every "true scale" marine is a testament to someone spending time and effort, so that´s kinda cool too I suppose...

and time and effort well spent on your part!

OK, so if those marines are 'true scale' how big is a terminator sized model?

Hahah, jaws as a marine could be good fun actually

As for the question of terminators in this scale... We´ll see. I have seen it sone well before, mostly with Heresy style termi´s, am tempted to go for it myself.

I´d imagine at least 12mm taller than regular terminator, about 4-5mm taller than these marines.

Im glad someone that has done true scale has finally made the damn guns bigger. They do look goofy having the marine a giant and the bolt gun the regular size.
Nice job so far Xanthos I really dig the old school armor you made

Now that's funky! Don't forget to remove the Imperial Aquila from the chest!

The big weapons look cool, eventhough they are too chunky. I dont agree with KingCracker on the matter that the weapons should be bigger. GW already uses ridiculously sized weapons on their minis

Thank you Kingcracker, I felt the same way about the guns. The armor was good fun actually.

Hey Malika, thanks for the comment.

As far as the Aquila, this guy will keep it, I figure he´s got partial Mark 7 on, chest and legs basically.

(Also, I started him before deciding on heresy era armors...)

My main reasoning behind the concept of bigger weapons, is actually that people (myself included) are using Marine bolters for IG models.
However, in "Traitor General", arguably one of Abnett´s best, there is a scene describing a guardsman barely being able to lift a Marine´s Boltgun.

So I´m feeling, they need to be huge honking things.


And also, it gives me another opportunity to do some modeling of weapons.

Yes, GW weapons are huge.

Painting update later. First guy is finished (apart from still missing a shoulder), waiting for better light so I can take some good piccies.

Looks very cool!

I like it.

Thanks tallmantim.

Painting update. I´ve almost finished the first guy now, except for his BA shoulderpad which is still in the mail... (Dang you FW...)

For his base, I´ve gone with a similar look to my =I=Munda stuff, but I´ve used a new effect for the rust. I got a bottle of the Liquid Mask from Vallejo, and painted over the rust, before painting the decking color. I think it came out okay, I´m certainly going to look out for more stuff to use it on.

Now it´s on to painting the next guy.

Are you going to paint the microphone attached to his chin? Maybe at least paint it to look like a beard.

The paintjob looks a little plain maybe try some washes.
Other then that it looks great.

Did you model an "American Dad" style chin onto him?

Looks very cool!

I actually removed the mic from hischin, this may not be obvious from the pics I´ve submitted :S

@goffnob: He´ll get a few more layers once the shoulders arrive. "Oh ye ForgeWorld parts of myth and legend, why must ye vex me so?"

American dad chin? Not on purpose, but I see the resemblance

Update time!

My bits from FW arrived today, the shoulder pads look good, and I´m painting again. I´ve done most of the shading now, and will be looking at battle damage next.

The reds are a bit on the dark side still, so I may hit them with a highlight or two.

Don't suppose you could putt him next to a "normal" marine for scale?