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Ok so my friend and I came across a problem. My friend with Chaos was destroying my Necron warrior's. So when he dropped five of my warriors well the two that was left failed their leadership test and then started fleeing. Now the problem is when the other's make there WBB rolls Do they join the fleeing unit or do they stop being with that unit and go to the closest unit? I don't really know? Because they didn't fail there roll. I don't know please help us. Sorry i just edited this part. So yes they are within 6'' of another unit of the same type so they can get there WBB rolls. It's just what happens when they do get there WBB rolls. Do they go to the closest unit or follow the fleeing?

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A necron that has to make a WBB roll is, for all intents and purposes, dead. If they aren't within 6 inches of an identical unit, including their original unit, or aren't within the tomb spider's range, they just don't get back up.

Things I've gotten other players to admit...
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Dronze wrote:A necron that has to make a WBB roll is, for all intents and purposes, dead. If they aren't within 6 inches of an identical unit, including their original unit, or aren't within the tomb spider's range, they just don't get back up.
What he said

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Very good point. Sorry i didn't make it a more clean. They were within 6'' of another unit of the same type. So would they join that unit?
   
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Actually, they move with the unit if there isn't a unit nearby. Page 1 of the necron FAQ asks a question about checking res orb range. It indicates that the unit is falling back, having been defeated through the use of power weapons. After res orb is verified, you move the downed models with the falling back unit. So yes, if they'd be eligibile when they fall, they travel with the unit.

Joining the nearest unit in that case is going to happen most often when you have the unit wiped out through something other than a sweeping advance, and they join a nearby unit, or are in range of a spyder, and teleport upon standing to join the closest unit that may be clear across the table.
   
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Sorry but GWS just sent me a reply tell me what's up. and it says that in Page 13 of the Necron's codex that The repaired Necron will immediately be placed in coherency with the closest unit of the same type. Where did you read part about the dead fleeing with the rest of the unit. I didn't see that anywhere.
   
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bladedragon03 wrote:Sorry but GWS just sent me a reply tell me what's up. and it says that in Page 13 of the Necron's codex that The repaired Necron will immediately be placed in coherency with the closest unit of the same type. Where did you read part about the dead fleeing with the rest of the unit. I didn't see that anywhere.
Oh god, here we go again. GW Customer Support replys HAVE NO BEARING ON A RULES DISCUSSION.

That is all.

And its in the Necron FAQ iirc

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Well my friend. I'll give you the GW has no bearing. But I have found no where in the codex that says that the fallen Necrons follow the fleeing unit. Because it's just the FAQ and not the codex which says that the necron is remains on the tabletop and is laid on it's side to show that it's damaged. Damaged necrons are ignored completely for all normal purposes such as unit coherency, measuring ranges, calculating whether other units can self-repair, adn so on - they are debris only. So in fact if you go by the codex they make their WBB roll if they are within 6'' of another unit of the same type if the unit they were in was running away unless that unit fleeing is the closest unit within 6''. Unless you are using the whole Tomb spider thing. Sorry that I'm a dumd ass that just didn't read the special rules from the codex well enough. Also if the unit fell back and there wasn't another unit within 6'' well the one's on the ground are SOL (not staff of light) lol. thanks everyone for all the comments I'm really really thankful.
   
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Well if you're gonna ignore the official faq then that's your problem I guess but you will find 99.9997% of people tend to use them

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You do know what we mean when we say FAQ, right? They're found here:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?community=&catId=cat410004&categoryId=1000018&pIndex=1&aId=3400019&start=2

Now, check out the Necron FAQ. In it you will find the statement about downed models moving with the unit as it falls back.

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don_mondo wrote:You do know what we mean when we say FAQ, right? They're found here:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?community=&catId=cat410004&categoryId=1000018&pIndex=1&aId=3400019&start=2

Now, check out the Necron FAQ. In it you will find the statement about downed models moving with the unit as it falls back.


Technically, downed necrons only fall back if they were killed by power weapons (and they are within range of a rez orb) or shooting attacks.

So, by raw, unless it's those to situations, that's the only time downed necron warriors get to fall back with their unit.

Stupid? Yes. Do I play it that way? No.

But that's gw for ya!

Sourclams wrote:He already had more necrons than anyone else. Now he wants to have more necrons than himself.


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No, thats not "GW for you" , that is one persons pedantic reading of a rule, and trying to twist it into something non-sensical.
   
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coredump wrote:No, thats not "GW for you" , that is one persons pedantic reading of a rule, and trying to twist it into something non-sensical.


Is there another reading of the rule from a raw standpoint?

Sourclams wrote:He already had more necrons than anyone else. Now he wants to have more necrons than himself.


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Of course, and it has been mentioned a few times in this thread even.

The question was a general question, the 'example' was meant as illustration. To try and twist that into saying it *only* applies to power weapons and res orbs.... is to ignore what the answer is saying.
   
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I'm very sorry to everyone because I thought the FAQ's were just here and what people said. I didn't know that GW had a FAQ page. Very sorry. I've read it all and now know that I was wrong. Thanks a lot for showing me the right way. Thanks a lot don_mondo for the link.
   
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I'm very sorry to everyone because I thought the FAQ's were just here and what people said. I didn't know that GW had a FAQ page. Very sorry. I've read it all and now know that I was wrong. Thanks a lot for showing me the right way. Thanks a lot don_mondo for the link.
   
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No biggie, now you know. And knowing is half the battle.....

Go Joe!!

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Cobra!!!

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