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**BrookM**

At first I was annoyed that such a large part of the novel was spent as a recap for the coming plot, but qwhen things kicked off they put some great things in motion, pity that is has to end on such a cliff hanger.

As for a Piscina novel: I'd love that, maybe we'll get a revisit of chaplain Boreas. I'd also like to learn more about Naaman during the campaign.

**lords2001**

BrookM wrote:I don't care what it's called, I just want to read the conclusion damn it! I really enjoyed Shadow King and Alith in particular. Oh well, at least we'll be getting the second Nagash novel soon, I really enjoyed the first one, it was what drew me into reading the other Time of Legend novels as well.

Shadow King is out where you are? I believe we are still waiting for it to come here in OZ. Either that, or GW stores hide it when I go in. And yes, the Nagash series was great, if quite choppy - but I really enjoyed the extra length - its one of about 5 books in total from BL where you really get some length in it (Titanicus, I'm looking at you). Much more satisfying than the Sigmar series, where the plot is - Early fight, minor storyline/backfill, plot thickens, minor fight, more plot thickening/betrayal, final fight against something.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Shadowking is definitely out!

And it would appear the third book in The Sundering is entitled Aenarion, which has got me all excited!

**lords2001**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Shadowking is definitely out!

And it would appear the third book in The Sundering is entitled Aenarion, which has got me all excited!

Nice.

Though just quickly, I know I'm not across all of the Fantasy history as well as I could be - I would have said should be, but I realised I didn't want to be THAT much of a nerd - where is a good place to get a proper overview of the various times/races fantasy history? The old edition codex/s? The Black Library stuff doesn't seem to cover much of it.

**reds8n**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Shadowking is definitely out!

And it would appear the third book in The Sundering is entitled Aenarion, which has got me all excited!

.. no..that's an audio book. As stated the third book... which if you've read the previous two is kind of obvious..is both called about and mainly concerns Caledor see the post here .

Meanwhile some more of the artwork for Helsreach and the Hunt for Voldorious

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/twelvewolves.php

haven't had a chance to read it yet.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

What's with all the stupid looking weapons they've been drawing lately?

**BrookM**

BL has been hiring artists who have no prior history with the hobby. Hence the abysmal power armour and the very ugly sci-fi bolter designs.

edit.

Though BL or whoever at GW is partially to blame for those things.

This is the first Daemon Prince design for the horrible Boom Comics Black Templar series:

It was rejected because it didn't look very 40k. Instead they told him to draw it like this:

**Malika2**

I liked the first daemon prince better.

I actually like the different bolter designs. Basically shows that there are more patterns out there than the Godwin (sp?) of the 3rd edition model.

I'm more curious about the vehicles on that picture, what are they? Those tanks look weird and is that a Thunderhawk in the air?

**Alpharius**

I'm guessing that the weird looking vehicles and the pseudo-Thunderhawk are once again due to artists not familiar with the 40K universe being hired to design book covers and then, when the work is turned in (paid for), someone with approval power says either "Close enough!" or "Good enough!"...

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:I'm guessing that the weird looking vehicles and the pseudo-Thunderhawk are once again due to artists not familiar with the 40K universe being hired to design book covers and then, when the work is turned in (paid for), someone with approval power says either "Close enough!" or "Good enough!"...

When is the book set?
Pre or Post-Heresy?

Pre-Heresy: it's quite likely a Stormbird rather than interpretive licensing.

**reds8n**

Mr. Thorpe has said the following about his Piscina book " The Purging of Kadillus"

Purging of Kadillus is a sort of prequel to Angels of Darkness in that it takes place before those events on Piscina, and some of the characters feature in both, but that's about the only narrative link between the two. If anything, the characters from AoD are included to show what they were like before being left to their own devices for a few years...

The basic story is based on the Storm of Vengeance campaign pack, so while the original gaming campaign of Andy and Pete and co had Harbingers and all sorts of other forces featured, the novel revolves around DA, Piscina PDF and the orkses.

That's all I'm prepared to say at the moment (I've only just started writing it!) but there'll be more on Mechanical Hamster nearer release.

Cheers,

GAV

PS Naaman will kick some orky bottom, that's for sure.

I've got "Rynn's World" , the first in the Space Marine Battles series, haven't cracked it open yet, reading Black Tide first, but it is a very nicely put together book, proper chunky feel to it.Looking forward to it.

**Carnuscaedes**

avantgarde wrote:The twist is at the very end when the Emperor is about to strike down Horus, Horus wakes up and it was all a dream and the events that transpired are false.

Could be... sounds like a horrible rehash of "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" by Ambrose Bierce I would laugh out aloud if so... then cry.

**Alpharius**

Kanluwen wrote:
Alpharius wrote:I'm guessing that the weird looking vehicles and the pseudo-Thunderhawk are once again due to artists not familiar with the 40K universe being hired to design book covers and then, when the work is turned in (paid for), someone with approval power says either "Close enough!" or "Good enough!"...

When is the book set?
Pre or Post-Heresy?

Pre-Heresy: it's quite likely a Stormbird rather than interpretive licensing.

I'm pretty sure it is post-Heresy and it is a more detailed telling of the story that's in the current Space Marine codex in which the White Scars and the Raven Guard build bridges and repair the strained relationship between their two chapters while hunting down a Daemon Prince...

I think!

So, interpretive licensing for the... win?

**lords2001**

Could this picture possibly be a rendition of the new Blood Angels lander we have all been hearing about?

**jerbear1071**

lords2001 wrote:Could this picture possibly be a rendition of the new Blood Angels lander we have all been hearing about?

more than liekly it's either a misguided attempt at a T-hawk or the older version in the heresy books called a Stormbird that some fluff has chapters still using.

**Flachzange**

According to BL Facebook, Prospero Burns will now be published in Jan 2011 due do Dans health issues. Heres the quote:

Due to author Dan Abnett’s health issues, the Horus Heresy novel Prospero Burns will now be published in Jan 2011. This novel chronicles the epic story of the Space Wolves and their dire battle with the Thousand Sons. It provides a counterpoint to A Thousand Sons, which tells the story from the Traitor Legion’s perspective and is published in March 2010. The Horus Heresy series continues to go from strength-to-strength throughout 2010, with three major new novels and three original audio dramas. For a full list of 2010 titles please visit the Black Library website at www.blacklibrary.com

**JHall**

Oops, edited previous post. Looks like I missed a post on Dan's blog about health issues. Sorry, I guess there is a reason the BL is posting that!

**Flachzange**

I hear ya

I think this was rather ... unexpected.
Whatever the reasons though, I hope he'll be fine

Thousand sons will be released anyways, which Im not gonna read until and can get my hands on prospero burns. I wanne read em back to back.

second edit: really? huh, i must have missed it as well.

**JHall**

What I don't understand is this book has to be done. BL has it down for a March 30 release on Amazon. As someone who worked in the publishing industry for years, there is no way that book is not in the can already. So I am not sure why they would push it back a full year unless something major needed redone on it. It all just seems very odd...

**Chamleoneyes**

Any idea when the HH Thousand Sons books are being released?

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ooops just saw the above posts, my bad. :-)

**Balance**

JHall wrote:What I don't understand is this book has to be done. BL has it down for a March 30 release on Amazon. As someone who worked in the publishing industry for years, there is no way that book is not in the can already. So I am not sure why they would push it back a full year unless something major needed redone on it. It all just seems very odd...

Amazon is somewhat infamous for 'aggressive' release dates on upcoming products...

**BrookM**

No offence but it sounds like a sneaky ploy to me.

Again, no offence and I wish Dan the best.

**Alpharius**

Have to agree...

For a book that was due to ship in Q1 of 2010, this is very odd.

Dan is usually pretty forthcoming on his website, maybe he'll shed some light there eventually?

**BrookM**

What we're having here is a big build of hype I guess. Graham suckers us in, we're forced to wait a year because all the clones are ill.

However, when looking at the BL releases for this year, Prospero Burns is the only real title Dan would be doing this year, the rest is reprint from hardback releases.

**twistinthunder**

does anybody know what the 4th space marines battle novel is going to be?

also what do you guys think of rynn world? (i think its awesome so far..)

**Alpharius**

twistinthunder wrote:does anybody know what the 4th space marines battle novel is going to be?

also what do you guys think of rynn world? (i think its awesome so far..)

I hear the BL's lack of editing strikes again (two different numbers of survivors listed) and that it lacks much tension, since we already 'know' what happens...

I'm waiting for a few more reviews before deciding on whether or not to purchase...

**BrookM**

I'm not a fan of Steve Parker myself, I might pick it up later. As for the second novel, Hellsreach, it depends on whether or not Soul Hunter will be a blast to read. Will find out tonight, after I finish A Thousand Sons.

**lord marcus**

i can't wait for the second nagash book.

in regards to shadow king, i would kill ot be able ot draw the scene at the end where alith steps out of the darkness with wolves prowling around him.

**pinhead**

BrookM wrote:I'm not a fan of Steve Parker myself, I might pick it up later. As for the second novel, Hellsreach, it depends on whether or not Soul Hunter will be a blast to read. Will find out tonight, after I finish A Thousand Sons.

How did you get A Thousand Sons? I thought it wasn't going to be published until March....