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What would be super neat is a fully modular, customisable suit, like the armored core games. With the direction they took with CSM, I wouldn't be all that surprised if they totally blew up the crisis suit options. My friends were surprised when they actually looked at the tau codex; they were under the impression our suits were totally build-from-scratch: It'd be awesome if they actually were! Then again, since cruddace is supposedly writing it...

For the 'fastest growing race' I think they need more close range weapons and weapon skill. We'll happily let units get within 12" with a one shot melta, but no flamers or other items? You would imagine we would need something to combat CC more efficiently.

Crisis Suits can get flamers...

... and a failsafe detonator.

 Minx wrote:
... and a failsafe detonator.

Be nice if you could use it outside of a sweeping advance, though.

75hastings69 wrote:Anybody who might be interested in what tau models (or at least one of them) you can really expect next year might want to type "Fil Dunn tau" into a google image search

verydarkshadow wrote:This is what I found ...

Why am I not surprised?

shaso_iceborn wrote:Basically according to my sources it's pretty much a Dreadknight sized suit with dual (note not twin linked) rail cannons and SMS with a rule for something I will call "hail-fire" in that it shoots massive barrage of weapondry if not moving in the movement phase.

75hastings69 wrote:Just to clear things up there IS something very similar to that image coming for tau.

And just this past weekend I pulled out my Tau because I was going to take pictures of everything and list them on ebay/swap shop....

Good thing I got all sentimental and put them back in the closet!

Hey look the games day model from a few years back.

 SickSix wrote:
And just this past weekend I pulled out my Tau because I was going to take pictures of everything and list them on ebay/swap shop....

Good thing I got all sentimental and put them back in the closet!

Haha, i did that twice with models i wanted to get rid of. Sayonara unbuilt CSM. What, new book? Dont look at me with those bloodthirsty puppy dog eyes! Im sorry, i didnt mean it.

If the new models look that advanced..... i'll die happy!

 Kroothawk wrote:

75hastings69 wrote:Anybody who might be interested in what tau models (or at least one of them) you can really expect next year might want to type "Fil Dunn tau" into a google image search

verydarkshadow wrote:This is what I found ...

Why am I not surprised?

shaso_iceborn wrote:Basically according to my sources it's pretty much a Dreadknight sized suit with dual (note not twin linked) rail cannons and SMS with a rule for something I will call "hail-fire" in that it shoots massive barrage of weapondry if not moving in the movement phase.

75hastings69 wrote:Just to clear things up there IS something very similar to that image coming for tau.

Always been a huge fan of Fil Dunn's model there. Very District 9-esque too IMHO.

If Tau get that, like Fil Dunn modelled it, that'd be cool (if it's more Fil Dunn than Dreadknight). It'd also fit the trend of big new toys with Codices these days (IMHO); such as the Dreadknight, Helldrake etc.

If the new models look THAT advanced ill be pissed. It doesn't mesh with any current model.

Don't get me wrong it looks sweet but clearly out dates everything that's been out since.

 MechaBeast wrote:
If the new models look THAT advanced ill be pissed. It doesn't mesh with any current model.

Don't get me wrong it looks sweet but clearly out dates everything that's been out since.

It doesn't mesh with any current model because it's a mishmash of everything.

If we see something like that, you can almost be certain that it will mesh with everything else because of the fact that it will not be one massive conversion.

 MechaBeast wrote:
If the new models look THAT advanced ill be pissed. It doesn't mesh with any current model.

Don't get me wrong it looks sweet but clearly out dates everything that's been out since.

I can understand where you are coming from.
I am just of looking at playful little robots across the table. But i would look a little strange to see all the cartoon models then that thing.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MechaBeast wrote:
If the new models look THAT advanced ill be pissed. It doesn't mesh with any current model.

Don't get me wrong it looks sweet but clearly out dates everything that's been out since.

It doesn't mesh with any current model because it's a mishmash of everything.

If we see something like that, you can almost be certain that it will mesh with everything else because of the fact that it will not be one massive conversion.

Isnt that weird though? Its made from everything, looks like nothing else

 MechaBeast wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MechaBeast wrote:
If the new models look THAT advanced ill be pissed. It doesn't mesh with any current model.

Don't get me wrong it looks sweet but clearly out dates everything that's been out since.

It doesn't mesh with any current model because it's a mishmash of everything.

If we see something like that, you can almost be certain that it will mesh with everything else because of the fact that it will not be one massive conversion.

Isnt that weird though? Its made from everything, looks like nothing else

Not really.

For myself, I'm dissecting it into the component parts and not seeing the model as a whole.

With a model that size, you really could see a lot of people using gundum bits on there models. Great way to feed the image that tau = anime.

Just had to be the wet towel. I can't wait for a big stompy suit.

*sigh* one thing I liked about the Tau was their semi-realism. Battlesuits actually made sense as a concept because of their compactness combined with mobility, not like ridiculous oversized Gundams with lightsabers. Looks like that's going out the window.

excellent...

 Harriticus wrote:
*sigh* one thing I liked about the Tau was their semi-realism. Battlesuits actually made sense as a concept because of their compactness combined with mobility, not like ridiculous oversized Gundams with lightsabers. Looks like that's going out the window.

The Tau Crisis suits are not to scale. They are actually quite larger, more of the Gundam size.

Unless the pilots were sitting in a fetal position while piloting them. They are not as large as a Gundam though, more along the line of a Dougram, or Aura Battler. Pilot in the chest, and about 3 times the size of the pilot. Battlesuits are about twice the pilots size, so are only slightly too small.

Terminators, appear to also be slightly to small, appearing to be along the lines of the Appleseed type suits.

The Taros Campaign sourcebook gives the following stats on a XV-8 battlesuit.

crew : 1
weight : 2.5 tonnes
length : 1.7 m
Width : 1.9 m
Height : 2.8 m

so not very big..and I know hardly anything about Gundam thingies , but what few pics I have seen would lead me to believe there is litle size comparisons.

(I personally dislike a anime look for my tau, and have gone for a real world combat look for mine )

A giant battlesuit..meh, oh well at least it will be SOMETHING new...me I would prefer some new heavy grav tanks.

That would put them at 9 ft tall. I really don't think that's right. They would only be 2 ft taller than a space marine that way. I've heard that they are about the same height as a dreadnought. That makes more sense.

well battlesuits are not built to human specs, tau are smaller and slighter than average humans, so 9' ish seems likely pretty good size to them, 2 ft larger than a superhuman demigod soldier is fine

it does weigh 2.5 tons, so its not exactly a feather weight., and if you put the minis next to each other flat footed, I bet it rings in at around the 9' range.

If its any consolation the Xv-9 is easily 10-12 tall.

Actually the minis themselves are not to scale with each other (hence the heroic) so using them for size comparisons won't be "accurate", quite easy to see by the fact a guardsman is the same size as a marine that is certainly not how it should be.

It's a beautiful conversion, but it defies everything we know about the Tau. The Tau are mobile. The Tau use combined arms. When Tau need heavy/super-heavy vehicles, they depend on skimmers and aircraft.

While a beautiful robot, what role does that conversion serve in a battle that can't be served by lighter, nimbler vehicles? A super-heavy robot would be slower than a skimmer, require more maintenance, and not be any more durable. What role does such a lumbering behemoth play in any of the Tau hunt doctrines?

GW have built a pretty good design for the Tau, and giant robots just don't fit the design. To plop in a giant robot kit because it will sell well to everyone who wants their Tau to be an anime proxy would be to show that GW doesn't care about their own work, and just wants to move product. It would show that apart from employees named Jes, their studio just doesn't give a damn.

So I guess what I'm saying is, expect a Tau giant robot kit, and expect it to be silly.

Right because broadsides are fast and mobile.

The Broadsides (with ASS) are certainly more mobile than most other infantry heavy weapons teams. But they do lend themselves more to a static philosophy than most other units.

I think GW is really seeking to have in each army a big flying thing and a big monstrous creature/walker type thing. They look impressive on the table, can do a lot of damage if the rules are decent, and allow them to rake in a lot of money. With this in mind it's only natural that the Tau will wind up with what may be a form of Super Broadside.

However, the big mech doesn't necessarily mean it will be slow. For all we know, like the Nemesis Dreadknight, it may be able to upgrade into a Jump or Jet Pack unit. I personally think the latter would be awesome.

I don't care about new units, I want the units we've already got to get a slight boost stat wise! *cough* vespids

 stubacca wrote:
I don't care about new units, I want the units we've already got to get a slight boost stat wise! *cough* vespids

Good luck. It doesnt fit GW's business model, see the Necron Codex.