Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P99 Bulletin #50

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**Lone Cat**

^ Mortar Rapier. and it looks .. urm.. like 1st edition Thudd Gun.

**Ignatius-Grulgor**

Yeah that list looks exactly like the one in IA:13, rather disappointed with that fact, unless there's a hell of a lot crammed into the wargear options, even then not sure I can justify another book at that price for a few small options.

**zedmeister**

Azreal13 wrote:
e.earnshaw wrote:
Oooh vraks book wonder what new goodies come in that all pointing to the upcoming csm book.

Don't think anything new jumps out?

Just a fiddle to bring the rules up to date I expect (and a condensation.)

Looks like a nice update to the Krieg list at least as well as a few new detachments that I can see:

Death Rider Squadron - Battleforged Detachment
Gorgon Assault Squadron - Battleforged Detachment

**angelofvengeance**

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah so he still has a jump pack, is that not what I said?

Yes...I was agreeing with you. I recalled that Ravenlord (set after Istvaan) has Corax on the cover.

I thought he was no longer using jump packs becausehe has a combi melta on the cover, which you don't typically see with jump packs so I double checked and found that he does have a jump pack after all.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Anyone know if he lost the Korvadine Pinions for good at the Dropsite Massacre, or were they recovered and repaired?

Looks like he still has the Korvadine Pinions on that cover. If you look at the image without the title box in the way he still has them. Check the YouTube video for it.

**Looky Likey**

Picked up my copy on the weekender, only thing that I don't like with the new book is that they stripped out the campaign.

**Azreal13**

If they print it in a separate volume and sell it back to you, that could be the first symptoms that FW has contracted GW disease...

**ImAGeek**

Azreal13 wrote:
If they print it in a separate volume and sell it back to you, that could be the first symptoms that FW has contracted GW disease...

I don't think they will, just because it doesn't say 'Siege of Vraks - Volume 1' it's just the 'Siege of Vraks', so I assume it's just one book now.

**warboss**

Looky Likey wrote:
Picked up my copy on the weekender, only thing that I don't like with the new book is that they stripped out the campaign.

Did Inquisitor Rex change much from the free 6th edition update?

**carabine**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah so he still has a jump pack, is that not what I said?

Yes...I was agreeing with you. I recalled that Ravenlord (set after Istvaan) has Corax on the cover.

I thought he was no longer using jump packs becausehe has a combi melta on the cover, which you don't typically see with jump packs so I double checked and found that he does have a jump pack after all.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Anyone know if he lost the Korvadine Pinions for good at the Dropsite Massacre, or were they recovered and repaired?

Looks like he still has the Korvadine Pinions on that cover. If you look at the image without the title box in the way he still has them. Check the YouTube video for it.

In Deliverance lost they describe a marine salvaging Corax's jump pack from Istvaan and presenting it to him at the end of the book repaired I thought.... or was that one of his Lightning Claws.

it, now I have to go reread that book.

**Azreal13**

ImAGeek wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
If they print it in a separate volume and sell it back to you, that could be the first symptoms that FW has contracted GW disease...

I don't think they will, just because it doesn't say 'Siege of Vraks - Volume 1' it's just the 'Siege of Vraks', so I assume it's just one book now.

Tough crowd.

**ImAGeek**

Azreal13 wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
If they print it in a separate volume and sell it back to you, that could be the first symptoms that FW has contracted GW disease...

I don't think they will, just because it doesn't say 'Siege of Vraks - Volume 1' it's just the 'Siege of Vraks', so I assume it's just one book now.

Tough crowd.

No I got it was a joke, but it's a worrying thought... I was reasoning to myself more than anything!

**Azreal13**

Cool.

There's a fault in your reasoning though, as were it to become a new, standalone campaign supplement, then they could call it something else which didn't require the volume X naming convention.

Good luck sleeping tonight.

**SirDonlad**

so, i just finished recovering from seeing THIS https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HFpj79b_TQ/VNckhi1qD7I/AAAAAAAAFPo/QFdjsC6wbvI/s640/blogger-image-656954862.jpg

and THIS https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lDUEAFmxVkI/VNY-LImbyDI/AAAAAAAAFNY/G5YuY6cr0IQ/s640/blogger-image-14311311.jpg

and THIS https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6yLJKfdqsxA/VNY-Uhm8oCI/AAAAAAAAFOA/pI2mJnoXlZ0/s640/blogger-image--1219878641.jpg

and THIS https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PI-VOYSXsGY/VNY-WI9x20I/AAAAAAAAFOI/rAujdz3JeCE/s640/blogger-image--1867554355.jpg

and THIS https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gsJCWHy5G74/VNYXEd7P_HI/AAAAAAAAFLM/hCywaGaeJSw/s640/blogger-image-348169645.jpg

its like they downloaded the Ordo Reductor wishlist and ran with it! Mechanicum Ordinatus Super-Heavy LOW Tank FTW! looks like the mother of all photon thruster weapons!

**Bobthehero**

reds8n wrote:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_THE_SIEGE_OF_VRAKS.html

revised Vraks book

Imperial Armour – The Siege of Vraks gathers together and presents afresh the story of this monumental conflict, previously published in Imperial Armour Volumes Five, Six and Seven. As well as extensive background information on the siege and the forces engaged in it, such as the Red Scorpions Space Marines Chapter, the Grey Knights and the World Eaters Chaos Space Marines, this 288-page, full colour hardback book contains updated rules and army lists for the Death Korps of Krieg and the Renegades of Vraks. Also included are the heraldry and iconography of the forces deployed to Vraks and rules for the lords and heroes of each faction, including Inquisitor-Lord Hector Rex and the vile Mamon, Daemon Prince of Nurgle.

Guess I need to get this book now, unless the Siege list is the same as the free pdf on FW site.

zedmeister wrote:

Death Rider Squadron - Battleforged Detachment
Gorgon Assault Squadron - Battleforged Detachment

I think those were already there as apoc formations.

**Looky Likey**

warboss wrote:
Looky Likey wrote:
Picked up my copy on the weekender, only thing that I don't like with the new book is that they stripped out the campaign.

Did Inquisitor Rex change much from the free 6th edition update?

Do you have a link to the 6th rules update so I can check?

**Aenarian**

Looky Likey wrote:
warboss wrote:
Looky Likey wrote:
Picked up my copy on the weekender, only thing that I don't like with the new book is that they stripped out the campaign.

Did Inquisitor Rex change much from the free 6th edition update?
Do you have a link to the 6th rules update so I can check?

I think this is the one:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/c/Characters.pdf

**warboss**

Yup, that's the free official update I was talking about. Thanks for checking, Looky. If you can peek at Zufor as well, I would be even happier as he is another cool model (albeit one I don't own yet unlike Rex).

**Looky Likey**

Rex is same points and stats, Arias (his sword) upgraded from wounding demons on 4+ to 2+, gains adamntium will, loses psybolts & warlord, psychic powers swapped for latest GK ones.

The big Zhuf is 20 points cheaper, same stats, gains champ of chaos, mark of khorne bonus attack no longer stated as included in stats, otherwise the same. He was a reasonable choice before, now hes that bit better with a point cut. I've never regretted using him, eats most things in his path.

**Bobthehero**

If you've got some time to spare, you mind having a look through this http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/dkksiegelist.pdf

And the Siege list, see if its actually updated?

**Skimask Mohawk**

carabine wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah so he still has a jump pack, is that not what I said?

Yes...I was agreeing with you. I recalled that Ravenlord (set after Istvaan) has Corax on the cover.

I thought he was no longer using jump packs becausehe has a combi melta on the cover, which you don't typically see with jump packs so I double checked and found that he does have a jump pack after all.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Anyone know if he lost the Korvadine Pinions for good at the Dropsite Massacre, or were they recovered and repaired?

Looks like he still has the Korvadine Pinions on that cover. If you look at the image without the title box in the way he still has them. Check the YouTube video for it.
In Deliverance lost they describe a marine salvaging Corax's jump pack from Istvaan and presenting it to him at the end of the book repaired I thought.... or was that one of his Lightning Claws. it, now I have to go reread that book.

This ^ at the end of the book the techmarine finishes repairing the pinions and presents them to him before they take the perfect fortress. He uses them in soulforge and raven lord

**H.B.M.C.**

Personall I hope they make the version of Corax where he was bloodied and broken, running around fighting anything he saw with a heavy bolter. They bothered to make rules for that version of him, so a mini would be good.

**warboss**

Looky Likey wrote:
Rex is same points and stats, Arias (his sword) upgraded from wounding demons on 4+ to 2+, gains adamntium will, loses psybolts & warlord, psychic powers swapped for latest GK ones.

The big Zhuf is 20 points cheaper, same stats, gains champ of chaos, mark of khorne bonus attack no longer stated as included in stats, otherwise the same. He was a reasonable choice before, now hes that bit better with a point cut. I've never regretted using him, eats most things in his path.

Thanks for the update rundown. I had been hoping they'd either drop his price, give him t4, or addd eternal warrior due to his "massive physique" but no luck I guess. He's still a darn good looking fig though so there is that. I just wish you could easily convert him into the pose he is in for his pic in the book.

**Haighus**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Personall I hope they make the version of Corax where he was bloodied and broken, running around fighting anything he saw with a heavy bolter. They bothered to make rules for that version of him, so a mini would be good.

This would be awesome! From what FW have been saying about making multiple versions of the Primarchs, I can't see them missing this opportunity personally, especially seeing as he has rules already, and it would only require modifying the original model rather than making a new sculpt like the more Daemonic Primarchs may need.

**Alpharius**

No way FW misses out on an opportunity to make this version of Corax:

No way!

**Malika2**

Alpharius wrote:
No way FW misses out on an opportunity to make this version of Corax:

No way!

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**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Insert "Corax is good at hiding" joke here.

**Alpharius**

Malika2 wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
No way FW misses out on an opportunity to make this version of Corax:

No way!

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Bummer!

How about this one then:

This one is nice too:

if a bit wonky in the proportions department!

**Theophony**

Marine at bottom "merely a flesh wound "

Not a fan of the wings in the picture myself.

**thunderingjove**

Hulksmash wrote:
Updated Vraks! And it's once book! Yay!!!!

Definitely what it seems like. I wonder how they will number it.

**ArbitorIan**

zedmeister wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
e.earnshaw wrote:
Oooh vraks book wonder what new goodies come in that all pointing to the upcoming csm book.

Don't think anything new jumps out?

Just a fiddle to bring the rules up to date I expect (and a condensation.)

Looks like a nice update to the Krieg list at least as well as a few new detachments that I can see:

Death Rider Squadron - Battleforged Detachment
Gorgon Assault Squadron - Battleforged Detachment

The Krieg list looks like a good update / consolidation, but I wonder how different the RoV list will be to the standard R&H list in IA13. From this contents image it seems almost identical, with the addition of a couple of detachments. If so, that's a big chunk of the book to spend on reprinted rules...