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After lurking the forums and browsing various websites,I've decided to collect eitheir Orks or IG.However im curious as to which is easier for a noob to begin making conversations.

Both lend their selves excellently to converting.

The thing with Imperial Guard is that any vehicle or unit bits from 28mm sprues will work great with them. WWII stuff doubly so.

On the other hand, Ork players can use Lego (Yes, I said Lego) in their conversions and it looks good

There's plenty of scope for both armies.

IG has plenty of mix and match options not only within 40k but with using WHFB stuff as well. Not only this but there's plenty of compatible 3rd party gubbins such as Pig Iron, West Wind, MaxMini etc.

Same goes for Orks. You can use lots of WHFB Orc stuff plus stuff you can pick up from Micro Art. And as Orks are Orks you can use anything from any other race (within sensible reason - sometimes without).

I know it's not much help but deciding between the two is a tough choice.

Why pick one, when you can combine them both!!!

I would say that Orks are the easiest to convert. They look good when the conversions are quite "rugged". I would honestly suggest orks to you if you want to start out converting.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Jack.

I'm most likely to get orks then and either move onto an IG army later or not bother and have a larger Ork force.

sub-zero wrote:Why pick one, when you can combine them both!!!

Man raises a good point. Why not do a Blood Axe army?

infilTRAITOR wrote:

Man raises a good point. Why not do a Blood Axe army?

If that was me i would have IG carrying ammo and equipment for Orks.

A bad meme that goes around is that "badly converted" equals "orky". The whole point of converting Ork models isn't to make them look like they were converting by a five year old during arts and crafts, the point is to make them look like they were constructed by creatures that would stare blankly at any mention of workplace health and safety, and have the kind of taste in vehicle accessories that would have a guido clucking his orange tongue in revulsion.

Nurglitch wrote:A bad meme that goes around is that "badly converted" equals "orky". The whole point of converting Ork models isn't to make them look like they were converting by a five year old during arts and crafts, the point is to make them look like they were constructed by creatures that would stare blankly at any mention of workplace health and safety, and have the kind of taste in vehicle accessories that would have a guido clucking his orange tongue in revulsion.

This one?

lmao, one of many!

Id say think more on it, and figure out weather your a friggin GREEN SKIN!!!!! or some pansy humie

Orks because it dosen't need to be uniform. It can be anything for orks.

Ork conversions can be so much fun!
Think of a design, grab a model and stamp on it! shake it in a bag of glue, and ta-daaa!

GREEN IS BEDA!!!

i have to agree with BlackSpike orks are more fun and easier

Go Orky

It seems more then likely that I may be starting an Ork army in the future.

Indeed. However, if you play orks its required you kitbash convert everything. If you don't a team of scarboyz will find you and introduce you to a squig eating contest with you as the squig.

That would not be amusing.

Although it is true that Badly Converted =/= Orky, the fact of the matter is a slight error on a conversion can be covered and explained with Orks, and can't with IG. For example, you are making a vehicle with identical, mirrored sponsons. For IG, those sponsons have to be made within a higher degree of tolerance to look right.

If you are cutting the plasticard for an Ork vehicle and cut it wrong, you can cover the gap with an another armor plate etc. You also don't need to have identical weapons to be the same weapon on a single vehicle or squad; provided they look OK, that is good enough.

Orks are a ramshackle army and while you can't get away with bad conversions and painting, you don't need to worry too much about uniform consistency.

Also, for IG - you are going to need about 50 men, minimum, all painted virtually identically. Orks will have about the same number of figures, but they can all be painted differently.

Of course, that would drive some people insane . . .

I would hate to have to make 50 identical imperial guard.

i have an ork army myself and think its cool to convert the vehicles. thats what made me build an ork army.

There is a fine link with orks however:

It is easy to convert for orks, it is far harder to do it with a sense of taste and style.

Anyone can glue a pile of crap together and say its "orky", but creating an orky conversion that carries the true feel of orks and is quality is more difficult then that...

If you want to understand good ork conversion, take a look at some of these guys:

jamsessionein
lemmingspawn
teek (his jetbikes are amazing)

And several more users on the forum who create good ork models.

and also go to thewaaagh forums, taking special note of the genius of user KroozA

Ork conversion is about carefully converting to look ramshakle, within scale, adding plates of metal, glyphs, bolts and rivets. It is not about getting two kits and sticking them together or planting an ice cream tub on a land raider and painting it all with thick yellow paint.

Both require lots of rivets if you're going to be using plasticard at all.

Ork rivets need to be chunky and haphazard - I would recommend the plastic rivets from Grandt Line.

IG rivets need to be absolutely uniform, this is much more difficult. Archer make decals with 3D resin shapes, including a sheet of rivets in various sizes and spacings. This is a great way to get perfect rivets!

orks you can make your tanks out of card board

Orks for sure, as you can make most any thing for them and out of them. From their bodies to their armor Orks are pretty much free to go for anything. I have seen Killer kans made from McD's wind up toys that shoudl have won GoldenDemons, Tanks from 100% plasticard that rival anything Forgeworld puts out, not to mention the fact you can use pretty much any thing from anywhere and with a bit of attention to scale, make it look lik eit belongs where you put it. No other army offer that sort of freedom and creative possibilities.

Guard have alot of options but unless you have serious green stuff skills of plan on sculpting up and cast your own parts, Guard conversions pretty much consist of part swaps like :heads from Pig Iron, weapons from other Hasselfree or other GW Kits as well as arms and such. All of which can get pretty spendy considering the Guard structure. Their armor has a bit more freedom but still ends up being spendy if you dont want your to look like everyone elses guard.

seeing as i lack epic greenstuff skills most of my guard are swapped