Assaulting an Immobilized vehicle that moved fast during its turn

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**Spellbound**

Scenario: Vendetta moves 12" and fires at something on its turn.

On my turn, I move a meltagun next to it and immobilize it. Then I assault.

Do I hit automatically, rolling against an immobilized vehicle, or do I hit on 6's, against a vehicle that moved at cruising speed or greater during its previous turn?

I'm inclined to say I hit automatically, as the wording in the rulebook on the table is "against a vehicle that IS immobilized or WAS stationary during its previous turn."

The IS, discussing its current status, is the crux of my argument. Regardless of what it did last turn [dealt with in the next two categories of hitting], the first one says that if it is immobilized, I hit automatically.

**Kitzz**

You hit automatically.

**Deadshane1**

yes, autohit.

**s2ua7**

Yup, autohit... because it IS immobilised even though it moved at cruising speed last turn...

Edit: Changed combat speed to cruising speed

**Psynikal**

What if the vehicle gets immobilized during an assault.
For instance if it gets immobilized by an attack at initiative 6 would attacks made at initiative 5 or lower be automatic?

**GarG**

Psynikal wrote:What if the vehicle gets immobilized during an assault.
For instance if it gets immobilized by an attack at initiative 6 would attacks made at initiative 5 or lower be automatic?

I'd be inclined to say yes every attack made after the immobilized result would auto-hit.

However, As there is no defending unit with an initiative (as this is a vendetta) Would you not have rolled all of your attacks at once regardless of initiative?

I believe that in order to keep play speed up, you probably wouldn't roll each attack separately for this combat, Hence it probably wouldn't matter if you immobilized it with the initiative 6 models!

If you turn around now and say that you are going to roll all of your attacks individually when assaulting vehicles. Then I'm not going to play with you

I'd rather have a nap

Is there a rule for this as ive had a look through the book an cant see anything pertaining to initiative and vehicles, so am i safe to assume all attacks are done at once, or am i about to eat my words?

**Lordhat**

You folow all assault rules unless instructed otherwise, so yes you do use initiative when assaulting a vehicle without a WS characteristic. This is especially important when using weaponry with multiple Str/AP values; If you simply wreck a vehicle with a krak grenade on I4, then you no longer get the opportunity to explode it with a chainfist on I1.

**Lacross**

wait, a Vendetta moving 12" is moving at cruising speed not fast...

**The Dragon**

I agree on the instant hit w/ the immobile result even though it moved. Just ask any person who uses drop pods--it's counted as immobile and gets insta-hitted even thought 'technically' it moved 6" in its turn.

Ditto on initiative effects on vehicles.

**Valkyrie**

But surely if the Vendetta is immobilised it crashes because it is a skimmer?

**Thunder555**

Skimmers count as wrecked when they get immolised if they moved Flatout ón their turn... If i recall correctly =P

**Dracos**

Thunder555 wrote:Skimmers count as wrecked when they get immolised if they moved Flatout ón their turn... If i recall correctly =P

Yep