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I couldn't fething believe this when I read the news today! Talk about frivolous lawsuits, and of course violation of privacy! For those of you who will be to lazy to read the article the summary is as follows: Mom and daughter are suing a landlord because their neighbor smoked next door. The neighbor was in her own apartment, there was no rule prohibiting smoking and the mom and daughter are now claiming they are disabled. The story puts it in greater context, but I still think this is just plain stupid. How you have sunk to a new low fellow Texans!
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/093009dnmetsmokingfeud.3ed620b.html

Texas has the ability to sink below rock bottom?

dogma wrote:Texas has the ability to sink below rock bottom?

Not nice....Bad Dogma!

Texas is still better than Indiana.

dogma wrote:Texas is still better than Indiana.

I have heard it referred to as India-nowhere...take that, ya damn Yankee!

Boys boys! You don't need to worry. Obama is riding in a wave of socialism and mind controlling devices, none of this will matter when everyone has their devices attached and switched to "Happy"

Indiana might be the worst state. Its only challenger is New Mexico (because the old one sucks so much).

New Jersey gets off because it touches the ocean.

New Jersey always gets off...
New Jersey, the selfish state! TM

Hmmmm...

Easy guys... Here I will solve this:
California is the worst state. It is too bright, there are TONS of hippies, fresh air, sandy beaches, fresh fruits, vegetables and seafood available daily, and a very awesome music scene. Awful place...

Seriously, this thread is about the pansies in the article linked above. I find it recockulous (California word. See: Redonkulous) that the woman was issued a restraining order against smoking in HER OWN HOME!!! Personally, I smoke. I wish I didn't, but gak is so stressful right now. I digress.

Smokers are the pariahs of our society. I am judged as being less of a human being because I smoke, not that I give a feth. Though, I do think that is wrong. I think what those bs did was wrong. I HATE the smell of China Town in Oakland on garbage day, but I am not going to get the store owners banned from putting their garbage in the streets.

fething pathetic

Feth this. The woman bringing the suit is acting too ridiculously.

She renews the lease halfway in... despite being "disabled" by the smoke? Laughable.

Later putting on gas masks to retrieve her things from a room that has cigarette smoke in it from next door? More laughable. It's the most transparent stunt I can think of.

I feel sorry for the smoker, and the complex owner who had to try and seal off the room for someone who needs a new brain more than a new set of lungs.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you America's most hated pariah:

The 20 Marlborough-a-day Islamic Terrorist.

feth prison, THAT guy would probably get crucified...

Albatross wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, I give you America's most hated pariah:

The 20 Marlborough-a-day Islamic Terrorist.

Then why'd we elect him? *rimshot*

dogma wrote:Texas is still better than Indiana.

I present you Louisiana. I can't STAND that state.

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Albatross wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, I give you America's most hated pariah:

The 20 Marlborough-a-day Islamic Terrorist.

Then why'd we elect him? *rimshot*

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmn!!!!!!!!

Orkeosaurus wrote:Feth this. The woman bringing the suit is acting too ridiculously.

She renews the lease halfway in... despite being "disabled" by the smoke? Laughable.

Later putting on gas masks to retrieve her things from a room that has cigarette smoke in it from next door? More laughable. It's the most transparent stunt I can think of.

I feel sorry for the smoker, and the complex owner who had to try and seal off the room for someone who needs a new brain more than a new set of lungs.

Of course it's ridiculous,yet another stupid lawsuit.
I wonder however if it will set some sort of legal statue,smoke free apartment complexess,owners refusing to rent apartments/homes to smokers,or more likely "price increases" for renters who smoke "nececary" to "get that nasty smell out" when the smoker moves out.



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grizgrin wrote:

dogma wrote:Texas is still better than Indiana.

I present you Louisiana. I can't STAND that state!

AW,c'mon grizgrin,Louisana isn't so bad,we have great food and Mardi Gras (were else can you get women to expose themselves for a 10 cent pair of plastic beads?)and we...,well,we have great food.

FITZZ wrote:we...,well,we have great food.

Only if you don't ask what it is.

tblock1984 wrote:Easy guys... Here I will solve this:
California is the worst state. It is too bright, there are TONS of hippies, fresh air, sandy beaches, fresh fruits, vegetables and seafood available daily, and a very awesome music scene. Awful place...

Delaware??? THATS the worst state....

as for the topic

hmm what are the rental laws? were there connecting ducts between the 2 appartments?

were they exposed to 2nd hand smoke?

Guys, guys. Newfoundland is the worst state.

avantgarde wrote:Guys, guys. Newfoundland is the worst state.

lol That was friggin great


Ok OT. I do not smoke. I understand no smoking in restaurants and the like the do not have a self contained smoking room with seperate ventilation.
But telling someone that they CANNOT smoke in there own home? WTF is wrong here. How the hell is THAT constitutional? Someone needs to execute that ladies daughter infront of her, tell her something heroic, and then end hers as well. Thatll give Americans a lesson that they wont forget..... well not until a week later.... how long did we hold onto 9/11?

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Albatross wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, I give you America's most hated pariah:

The 20 Marlborough-a-day Islamic Terrorist.

Then why'd we elect him? *rimshot*

Now that was funny.



Meanwhile, this has just been filed. As I understand that doesn't even mean this has been considered worthy of a court hearing, let alone actually won. I could file a suit saying 'I want a million dollars from DakkaDakka because there aren't enough threads complaining about the Space Wolves' but it wouldn't mean I have slightest chance of getting any money off anyone. I think we need to start being outraged if this gets to court.

Well then... does Wrex really need to say anything at this point? Crazy lady A, and Crazy daughter B= Crazy fail extravaganza...

Wait... Wrex does have something to add...

sebster wrote:Meanwhile, this has just been filed. As I understand that doesn't even mean this has been considered worthy of a court hearing, let alone actually won. I could file a suit saying 'I want a million dollars from DakkaDakka because there aren't enough threads complaining about the Space Wolves' but it wouldn't mean I have slightest chance of getting any money off anyone. I think we need to start being outraged if this gets to court.

Good point.

I mean, she's obviously causing a lot of inconvenience to people regardless, but nothing's been handled badly yet from a legal standpoint, it seems.

Wrexasaur wrote:

Well then... does Wrex really need to say anything at this point? Crazy lady A, and Crazy daughter B= Crazy fail extravaganza...

Wait... Wrex does have something to add...

What the hell America!!!!!
(The idiots, not the cat. He can stay.)

sebster wrote:Meanwhile, this has just been filed. As I understand that doesn't even mean this has been considered worthy of a court hearing, let alone actually won. I could file a suit saying 'I want a million dollars from DakkaDakka because there aren't enough threads complaining about the Space Wolves' but it wouldn't mean I have slightest chance of getting any money off anyone. I think we need to start being outraged if this gets to court.

Well here is the thing. I actually sent this to a client of my dad's, who is a trial lawyer, and he had this to say. "Thanks for the e-mail. I am still surprised, even in my old age. While I don't think that any jury in the world, or judge for that matter, will consider this to be a realistic case, you still have to leave that as an open option. The more realistic avenue is this: Yes the landlord will win in a courtroom, but they will have to pay a tremendous amount of money in court and lawyer fees. They will probably settle out of court, and this idiot lady and her gravy-for-brains daughter are going to walk away with a bunch of money." So yes sebster, you are right that this will probably never go to court, but since it isn't a "loser pays" system they don't need to worry about it. Sucks to get sued....

That's the problem.

The civil system has flaws that make it possible to cause a lot of harm without a valid case.

JEB_Stuart wrote:

sebster wrote:Meanwhile, this has just been filed. As I understand that doesn't even mean this has been considered worthy of a court hearing, let alone actually won. I could file a suit saying 'I want a million dollars from DakkaDakka because there aren't enough threads complaining about the Space Wolves' but it wouldn't mean I have slightest chance of getting any money off anyone. I think we need to start being outraged if this gets to court.

Well here is the thing. I actually sent this to a client of my dad's, who is a trial lawyer, and he had this to say. "Thanks for the e-mail. I am still surprised, even in my old age. While I don't think that any jury in the world, or judge for that matter, will consider this to be a realistic case, you still have to leave that as an open option. The more realistic avenue is this: Yes the landlord will win in a courtroom, but they will have to pay a tremendous amount of money in court and lawyer fees. They will probably settle out of court, and this idiot lady and her gravy-for-brains daughter are going to walk away with a bunch of money." So yes sebster, you are right that this will probably never go to court, but since it isn't a "loser pays" system they don't need to worry about it. Sucks to get sued....

Yeah, fair point. It'd be nice if tort review systems could throw out a lot these nuisance cases before the lawyer fees started building up, but that's fraught with danger.

avantgarde wrote:Guys, guys. Israel is the worst state.

Fixed.

NOw thats not nice, i like bomb shelters in all the apartment buildings and rocket attacks are fun

Plasma is the worst state.

Quark-gluon plasma, or regular plasma? QGP is a pretty cool state to be honest, so you had best not be bad-typing it