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So i finished the basic shell and panelling of a sub for our Apoc island hoping game/campaign. I just wanted to know if you guys think the rules for my sub are unfair. They are still being worked out but it has one deck gun either an autocannon or lascannon and 15 hellfire missiles(i think thats what they ae called: the blast template missiles from the valkerie) It has to surface to shoot and the missiles are one time use. The movement its 12" a turn and cant move and shoot.

Nice overall, but, don't you think it's a bit wide?

Looks good the rules are fare to me, but thats just me.

I like it, I have to say it's very reminiscent of the Russian Oscar-class submarines. Let's just hope that your sub has a better track record than that class. In regards to the rules, I can't say without a corresponding points value, so that's probably something you'll want to add.

Well honestly what would you guys say is fair in points

How fair it is in points depends on armour values/structure points. I'd say, pointwaise, find a flying vehichle of a similar size/armour and add/subtract what you think the weapons are worth. Then, play test it and see what your opponents think.

I would go with Manticore missiles myself, d3 templates makes them a lot more significant to the game.

Looks great.