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I find the personal odour thing to be the worst, many of those shops aren't airconned and some folks with less regular bathing and grooming habits make the air stale. My wife had to leave GW Bristol one day due to the stench and it's been ever thus with gaming stores in my experience, there's always one bastard that doesn't understand 'shower every day and use the deodorant'. When it's younger teens I guess it's slightly more forgivable, the transition to adulthood isn't always fully explained (ie, son, now you've got hormones n stuff in your body, your sweat will stink to high heaven and if you don't wash your unmentionables frequently, you'll make the air around you smell like a festering dead camel).

In other news...

Samus_aran115 wrote: A couple months back, when I'd just started 40k, I played against a marines player who was running dreadnought swarm. He was drop podding them all in. So I ask him, "Hey, what the hell are you rolling first turn for? Deep striking units come in on the second turn!" He says "No, they have a special rule"

I didn't play marines, so I had no idea how drop pods worked at the time. BUT THAT"S NOT IT! When he was deepstriking, he would never roll for scatter. I asked him why he wasn't rolling for scatter, "Yeah,uh, drop pods have a special rule."

So yeah, naturally I lost the game, on account that it was my second game. It's okay though, I stole his kayvaan shrike model, Bwahahaha. Don't leave your HQ on the floor next time, douchebag!

You stole from this guy? Wow. I'd go careful for a while, karma is a bitch.

I remember when my brother and his girlfriend came into a GW store, it was so funny cause here is my brother pretending to have nothing to do with the hobby while doing the whole "cool guy" thing and his girlfriend who was hot. every guy stoped what he was doing and just stared at her. I was surprised nobody said "it's a girl".
But it gets even better because my brother was into the hobby , he played tau but acted like 40k was the nerdist thing on the planet and how i was wasting my time playing the hobby, all of this infront of his girlfriend after we left the store. I just said don't you play 40k as well. He didn't say a word till we dropped her off at home.

I have to say my worst experience came very recently. Bearing in mind I went into the store for a single pot of paint.

The manager of the store first tried to offer me the previous months WD, then the current, then a subscription and then the foundation paint set. I could only take so much and then politely stated that I only want this one paint so do you want my money or not.

The new sales approach in GW is so annoying.

My experiences with Games Workshop have generally been very good especially Games Workshop Peterborough where I used to live the Store Manager (Tom I think haven't been back for a couple of years) is absolutely fantastic not pushy, very helpful and when he recommends you buy something it is because he has taken the time to hear about your army list and it is a sensible suggestion but it is always phrased in the 'this would be a great addittion some time in the future' so you very much feel that you have no pressure to buy it at all.

Any back OT my only real negative experience was in one of the Bristol Games Workshops. I went into buy about £100 worth of stuff for my SW and IG I would say that the manager would be fairly pleased to be taking this much money from someone who obviously knew what they wanted (I was at the counter within my second minute in the shop). However he proceeds to ask me about LOTR and do I play it. I politely say no it doesn't interest me. He then demands to know why, seeing that there are a fair number of other people in the shop I don't just give my honest view that it is flogging a dead horse and a very boring game that is specifically aimed at making money and nothing else. Instead I reply that I play Fantasy and 40K and have no time or inclanation for anything else. He then straight out tells me I'm wrong AND THEN ADDS A GONDOR BATTALION TO MY PURCHASES without asking and rings it through the checkout. I just look at him for a minute like he has lost it and turn to the lady behind me who is staring opened mouthed and who then with a shake of her head puts down her childs potential purchases and leaves the shop with her children in tow. My wife also leaves taking our kids with her as she senses I am about to blow.

I am not especially proud of what happened next but I think it was fairly justified I ask 'what the feth are you doing?' To which he first says there is no need to swear and then tells me that I must buy this item and expierence LOTR first hand. My credit card goes back in my wallet I told him to get fethed and leave the shop. Five minutes later I was speaking to the area manager who was profuse in his apologies and actually sent me all my orginal purchases free of charge and special delivery. I believe that particular store manager has now parted way with GW.

How long ago was that Ed? Was this the one in Broadmead? If so I think I know who you are refering to. Thankfully Brad the current store manager is great and I have always managed to have an open honest conversation with him.

No the one in Cribbs mate.

About 3-4 years ago.

I'd have to say the last tournament I played, it was a 1,000pt team tourney, and the mix of unwashed/sweaty people combined with an overwhelming slavish devotion to winning from almost all participants pretty much broke me and my friend off from playing tournaments in our FLGS, it was the first time in 12 years I've ever been sickened by my hobby. suffice to say I've taken a much more casual approach to gaming since then to preserve my love for the hobby.

Ed_Bodger wrote:No the one in Cribbs mate.

About 3-4 years ago.

Oh in that case then the service definately has not improved...

I still remember one of the old managers for Broadmead. My girlfriend bought me some skaven stuff for my birthday. One of which was the WLC. I got it and it was missing the Chasis. I phoned up and was told to come down on Sunday and we will replace it. Suffice to say I turned up on Sunday and the shop was not open. I waited for ages for it to open only to be told to go away. Phoned up Customer Services straight away. The guy I spoke to knew the old manager Ben who I was friends with. I ended up on the phone to him for about 45 minutes. He said he would send out a replacement straight away. On the tuesday I get a huge box. In it is 2 WLC, 1 Screaming Bell and a handfull of blister. Worst and best service in one go.

MunkeyKungFu wrote:How long ago was that Ed? Was this the one in Broadmead? If so I think I know who you are refering to. Thankfully Brad the current store manager is great and I have always managed to have an open honest conversation with him.

I met Brad the other day, had a chat and he was a decent bloke to talk to, honest and mature and capable of having a conversation without 'preaching the word' or only communicating by shouting at me as though I was a kid.

I have not always enjoyed that level of service in the store.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

MunkeyKungFu wrote:How long ago was that Ed? Was this the one in Broadmead? If so I think I know who you are refering to. Thankfully Brad the current store manager is great and I have always managed to have an open honest conversation with him.

I met Brad the other day, had a chat and he was a decent bloke to talk to, honest and mature and capable of having a conversation without 'preaching the word' or only communicating by shouting at me as though I was a kid.

I have not always enjoyed that level of service in the store.

Yeah, I don't go in very often, but when I do Brad is always pleasant to talk to. I don't get any hard sells these days, but I remember when it used to be a very distracting experience.

It was probably the little gay boy and his fat little 'friend' of indeterminable gender. All I know if I had some Orks, then Space Wolves came and ate them... and the fat one kept looking at me. Freaked me the hell out.

My FLGS is promoting dipping to the death. "Why bother spending hours upon hours of painting little details when you can just spray them, block them and dip them to a great standard?" Yeah, it shows.

Fafnir wrote:I feel sorry for any of womankind who are made to walk into a Gamesworkshop store. In more... usual hobby shops, it's not so bad. Most people are respectable, but judging from the GW in Chinook Centre, the majority of people who hang out there are far from respectable, being consumed by their 'hobby,' choosing to make a lifestyle out of it, many of whom would consider even talking to a woman something of legend.

The only girls that ever came into a hobby store with me was my mom and my sister,but my best friend who is a girl respects my hobby,and thinks its really cool.and another friend who is a girl does flames of war.


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anyway back on topic please.

MagickalMemories wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:

A couple months back, when I'd just started 40k, I played against a marines player who was running dreadnought swarm. He was drop podding them all in. So I ask him, "Hey, what the hell are you rolling first turn for? Deep striking units come in on the second turn!" He says "No, they have a special rule"

I didn't play marines, so I had no idea how drop pods worked at the time. BUT THAT"S NOT IT! When he was deepstriking, he would never roll for scatter. I asked him why he wasn't rolling for scatter, "Yeah,uh, drop pods have a special rule."

So yeah, naturally I lost the game, on account that it was my second game. It's okay though, I stole his kayvaan shrike model, Bwahahaha. Don't leave your HQ on the floor next time, douchebag!

Wow.
I think this might be the first time, in one of these threads, someone mentioned themselves as being the "worst experience" for people.

I mean, because you didn't know that there IS a special rule for SM Drop Pods to come in on first turn & that they DO have wargear that eliminates scatter for reserves, you found it appropriate to STEAL something of his, rather than be honest & turn it in to an employee.

Yeah. Sounds to me like the problems were ALL because of him.

Eric

Well actually, It was on the floor after he left, which was about an hour previously. Not to mention he forgot that he couldn't assault after shooting rapid fire, and he forgot what turn it was every couple seconds, and he was an overall bad gamer. I don't really need to justify anything further, what's done is done. Karma is a bitch, but I've got revenge! Bwahaha

And also, huh. Guess I should actually read the Space Marine codex rather than taking the advice of shotty gamers at the table next to us.
And no, I now know the rules, you only deep strike half of the drop pods, and he was deep striking all of them. Also, there's no such rule that says they don't scatter. There is a rule that says they may NOT land on impassable terrain, which was not the case.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Well actually, It was on the floor after he left, which was about an hour previously. Not to mention he forgot that he couldn't assault after shooting rapid fire, and he forgot what turn it was every couple seconds, and he was an overall bad gamer. I don't really need to justify anything further, what's done is done. Karma is a bitch, but I've got revenge! Bwahaha

Interesting.
So, it's okay to steal something he forgot to take with him, rather than turn it in to management of the facility.
Sorry. Can't see the logic on that one.

Samus_aran115 wrote:And also, huh. Guess I should actually read the Space Marine codex rather than taking the advice of shotty gamers at the table next to us.
And no, I now know the rules, you only deep strike half of the drop pods, and he was deep striking all of them. Also, there's no such rule that says they don't scatter. There is a rule that says they may NOT land on impassable terrain, which was not the case.

You're right that there's no "no scatter" rule for Drop Pods. They do all Deep Strike, though. Half (rounded up) on Turn 1 & the rest as regular reserves (have seen people make legitimate mistakes with that, too).

Have you looked at what upgrades are available for them, though?

Eric

However you dress it up it is still theft. Well done you I am sure you can be very proud of yourself.

Not really sure how I was dressing it up, but I know it's theft. Returning it to the staff crossed through my mind instantly, but then I realized who's it was, and I decided not to. I guess I'm just a thief! Not proud of myself, but I' not gonna lose sleep from something I did months ago.

And I'm not sure drop pods have any upgrades,except that missile thing. I'll check later.

As much as I'm not proud to say it, I probably would've done the same thing. Little fether deserved it.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:It was probably the little gay boy and his fat little 'friend' of indeterminable gender.

Charming.

Jeez I hope I never mess up rules and then forget my models anywhere! Honestly, maybe he mis-read something? Hadn't played much? Been given wrong info? I mean I used to play my DA SS as 4++ all the time before someone called me on it, simply because I hadn't read the rules (4++ in assault only) and I had no idea my Apoth's narthecium/reductor didn't work in close combat simply because I didn't read the entire thing. I constantly forget to use my Farseer's powers and things like that.

Would you steal my Belial/Eldrad?

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Arctik_Firangi wrote:It was probably the little gay boy and his fat little 'friend' of indeterminable gender. All I know if I had some Orks, then Space Wolves came and ate them... and the fat one kept looking at me. Freaked me the hell out.

Sucks that people are so judgemental eh?

Samus_aran115 wrote:Not really sure how I was dressing it up, but I know it's theft. Returning it to the staff crossed through my mind instantly, but then I realized who's it was, and I decided not to. I guess I'm just a thief! Not proud of myself, but I' not gonna lose sleep from something I did months ago.

And I'm not sure drop pods have any upgrades,except that missile thing. I'll check later.

Drop Pods have 2 upgrades: Locator Beacons and Deathwind Launchers. There are 2 rules which it has automatically has: The Drop Pod Assault allows half of your Pods to automatically arrive on Turn 1, and the Inertial Guidance System reduces the scatter if it would contcact another model or terrain.

What you did to his model was just wrong though. Sorry, but that was just immaturity and unsportsmanship.

I went shoping with a friend yesterday in truro and after 2hrs of her trying on bikinis we went to pick up my new trainers as im walking along the street aproching my local g.w {which i havnt been into for 6mths}
im thinking maybe its safe to go in and get a brush as ive been useing a super super fine detail for everything for the last mth.
as were getting near two teens of indiscriminate species come roaring out and proceed to dry hump each other over a box of blood angels . so we look at each other to sat wtf and continue walking past as were by the window i look in to see some fat kid in a loverly wolf fleece jacket and one of those great dragon t shirts with one hand down the back of his tracksuit bottoms and the other digging out his brains as he overwatches my mate walk past in her shorts ..strangely we didnt go in went pub instead win !

im one for "celebrating peoples differences" but realy what happened ? the old mgr there used to do a smell test and wouldnt let them in if they werent fresh.
thers only so much stench that poly cement can cover up...!

CrazyThang wrote:Jeez I hope I never mess up rules and then forget my models anywhere! Honestly, maybe he mis-read something? Hadn't played much? Been given wrong info? I mean I used to play my DA SS as 4++ all the time before someone called me on it, simply because I hadn't read the rules (4++ in assault only) and I had no idea my Apoth's narthecium/reductor didn't work in close combat simply because I didn't read the entire thing. I constantly forget to use my Farseer's powers and things like that.

Would you steal my Belial/Eldrad?

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Arctik_Firangi wrote:It was probably the little gay boy and his fat little 'friend' of indeterminable gender. All I know if I had some Orks, then Space Wolves came and ate them... and the fat one kept looking at me. Freaked me the hell out.

Sucks that people are so judgemental eh?

No, of course not. Only later did I realize how big of a blatant liar this guy was. If he had actually had no idea, then I doubt I would've even considered stealing.


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CURNOW wrote:I went shoping with a friend yesterday in truro and after 2hrs of her trying on bikinis we went to pick up my new trainers as im walking along the street aproching my local g.w {which i havnt been into for 6mths}
im thinking maybe its safe to go in and get a brush as ive been useing a super super fine detail for everything for the last mth.
as were getting near two teens of indiscriminate species come roaring out and proceed to dry hump each other over a box of blood angels . so we look at each other to sat wtf and continue walking past as were by the window i look in to see some fat kid in a loverly wolf fleece jacket and one of those great dragon t shirts with one hand down the back of his tracksuit bottoms and the other digging out his brains as he overwatches my mate walk past in her shorts ..strangely we didnt go in went pub instead win !

im one for "celebrating peoples differences" but realy what happened ? the old mgr there used to do a smell test and wouldnt let them in if they werent fresh.
thers only so much stench that poly cement can cover up...!

So this person is just a friend, but she invited you to come with her to try on bikinis?

And I don't really understand. There was a fat kid scratching his ass staring down your friend in short pants? Was he picking his nose?

Samus_aran115 wrote:And I'm not sure drop pods have any upgrades,except that missile thing. I'll check later.

You should look up "Locator Beacon."

a locator beacon only works if it was on the table the turn the droppods deepstrike, so in turn 1 it can't be used unless another model within the sufficient range is there.

are you sure? I thought once the pod landed its locator beacon would then allow the rest to drop down around it with no scatter.

Duce you are correct.

Drop pods and locator beacons are not this hard, guys.

Locator Beacons: Must already be in play at the beginning of the turn you are trying to use them. If you drop a pod down on turn one with a locator beacon, you can't use it's powers until turn 2. If you want to use a locator beacon on turn one, infiltrate a scout biker squad with a locator beacon then scout move them closer to the enemy. (Please go read the Locator Beacon entry if you think otherwise.)

Drop Pods: Yes, they still freaking scatter 2d6" like anything else. However, if the scatter would cause them to land on another unit (Friendly or Enemy) or would drop them in impassable terrain, then they scatter the minimum distance to avoid such placement. Note that this doesn't prevent them from scattering off the table (and suffering a mishap roll) or landing in dangerous or difficult terrain, where they will have to make a dangerous terrain test. Since they are automatically imobilized no matter where they land, failing a dangerous terrain test would then inflict a Weapon Destroyed result.

Samus_aran115

So this person is just a friend, but she invited you to come with her to try on bikinis?

And I don't really understand. There was a fat kid scratching his ass staring down your friend in short pants? Was he picking his nose?


yes and yes..

Ed_Bodger wrote:My experiences with Games Workshop have generally been very good especially Games Workshop Peterborough where I used to live the Store Manager (Tom I think haven't been back for a couple of years) is absolutely fantastic not pushy, very helpful and when he recommends you buy something it is because he has taken the time to hear about your army list and it is a sensible suggestion but it is always phrased in the 'this would be a great addittion some time in the future' so you very much feel that you have no pressure to buy it at all.

Any back OT my only real negative experience was in one of the Bristol Games Workshops. I went into buy about £100 worth of stuff for my SW and IG I would say that the manager would be fairly pleased to be taking this much money from someone who obviously knew what they wanted (I was at the counter within my second minute in the shop). However he proceeds to ask me about LOTR and do I play it. I politely say no it doesn't interest me. He then demands to know why, seeing that there are a fair number of other people in the shop I don't just give my honest view that it is flogging a dead horse and a very boring game that is specifically aimed at making money and nothing else. Instead I reply that I play Fantasy and 40K and have no time or inclanation for anything else. He then straight out tells me I'm wrong AND THEN ADDS A GONDOR BATTALION TO MY PURCHASES without asking and rings it through the checkout. I just look at him for a minute like he has lost it and turn to the lady behind me who is staring opened mouthed and who then with a shake of her head puts down her childs potential purchases and leaves the shop with her children in tow. My wife also leaves taking our kids with her as she senses I am about to blow.

I am not especially proud of what happened next but I think it was fairly justified I ask 'what the feth are you doing?' To which he first says there is no need to swear and then tells me that I must buy this item and expierence LOTR first hand. My credit card goes back in my wallet I told him to get fethed and leave the shop. Five minutes later I was speaking to the area manager who was profuse in his apologies and actually sent me all my orginal purchases free of charge and special delivery. I believe that particular store manager has now parted way with GW.

I had an experience similar to this, I went in with my wife to buy, and I kid you not, 1 pot of paint that I needed. I'm stood at the till with my paint the assistant asks if I need anything else, I politely say no thanks, he then asks if I have seen the £150 paint set that GW does. I say yes but I'm not interested thanks. The twit then harps on about it for 15 sodding minutes trying to convince me to buy it, I swear I would still be there now if my wife hadn't wondered over from where she had been flicking through a rule book, enquired about what was going on and then with a slight smile told the assistant if I even tried to buy the paint set for that much she would cut my balls off before the credit card left my wallet, oddly enough after a moments silence there was a slight beep from the till and I was away with my single pot of paint.

I can't stand how GW are obsessed with hard selling stuff to adults, fine try and bambozle a child but I'm 26 for gods sake.


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CURNOW wrote:I went shoping with a friend yesterday in truro and after 2hrs of her trying on bikinis ...!

Lol I love how you made that sound like a chore, "god yes your breasts look fine in that one too, can't you speed this up a bit"