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L: Chaos Lord - Barded Steed;Bloodcurdling Roar;Hellfire Sword;Bronze Armour of Zhrakk;Shield;M.o.S = 359
H:Exalted - Shield;Steed;Axe of Khorne;M.o.S;B.S.B = 206

C:5 Horsemen;Light Armour;M.o.S;Flails;musician = 96
C:5 Horsemen;Light Armour;M.o.S;Flails;musician = 96
C:5 Horsemen;Light Armour;M.o.S;Flails;musician = 96
C:5 Horsemen;Light Armour;M.o.S;Flails;musician = 96
C:5 Horsemen;Light Armour;M.o.S;Flails;musician = 96
C:5 Horsemen;Light Armour;M.o.S;Flails;musician = 96
C: 25 Warhounds = 150

S: 5 Chaos Knights;M.o.S;Musician = 220
S: 5 Chaos Knights;M.o.S;Musician = 220
S: 6 Chaos Knights;M.o.S;Musician = 260
S: 6 Chaos Knights;M.o.S;Musician = 260

Thoughts? 4 units of 5 warhounds cover the Knights, the other 5 run around and bark (points filler, couldn't fit anything else in)

Horsemen go around and kill stuff, covering the knights if the warhounds get blown to hell too fast for my liking.

Consider Lances on at least on unit of Knights. That extra punch can really help in a pinch.

Thing is, though, they're pretty bad in consecutive rounds of combat.

I mean, to be honest, I think that lances and Ensorcelled weapons should be switched in the WoC book, just because it doesn't seem right lol.

Ensorcelled weapons give me +1 strength and are magical, in all rounds of combat, and they're cheaper. Its ludicrous. Lances just don't compete.

Edit: Oh, and I was thinking of dropping 1-2 units of Marauder Horsemen (and possibly a unit of 5 hounds if needed) for some extra magic defense, thoughts?

Ensorcelled weapons are definitely the better option.

Love the list. May just have to use this as insperation myself.

Thanks ^.^

Whoa, cut-n-paste attak!

My first thoughts?
- bronze armor is bad on a lord, when part of what you're paying 100 points for is Ld 9
- but it's nicer on a BSB
- I think you need at least a little anti-magic, and I have just the super-speedy roar sorcerer in mind

I guess here's a shot from me on tweaking this thing:

L: Lord - MoS, hellfire sword, collar, shield, barded steed = 349
H: Exalted - MoS, BSB, sword of might, bronze armor, favor, shield, barded steed = 201
H: Sorcerer - MoS, golden eye, scroll, roar, steed of slaanesh = 185

C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Warhounds = 30

S: 6 Knights - MoS, warbanner, standard, musician = 305
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 5 Knights - MoS, musician = 220
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Lord > Ward & MR(2) will be appreciated I'm sure, and now he can share his lovely Ld to his buddies (especially all those Ld7 horsemen)

BSB > Basically a lot like yours, but instead of KBing people he can't be KBed himself. Favor for randomness?

Sorc > This is my disc sorcerer build, except now on a speedy steed instead. Little bit of anti-magic, a spell for the hell of it or when the other guy miscasts and lets you cast, and roar for doing amazing things. 360 degree LoS ftw?

Horsemen > Yea, still lots of them.

Warhounds > Less of them. With no frenzy and so many horsemen, I'm not sure what role warhounds are doing for you in the list. I figure one unit is fine for diverting and being thrown on fanatics, and other jobs that end up with their death

Knights > I feel like non-frenzied knights should have standards, as 10 S5 + 5 S4 isn't an auto-win against things you really need to kill. I kept one cheapo musician unit for light work, but buffed up the lord & BSB's units with an extra CR boost, and made the one sixer unit even stronger with CR2+ static. This gives three powerful knight units + one lighter one, which I think I'd trust more myself.

Neat themey list all together. With your original one, I feel like you'd end up with an incredibly cluttered deployment on a 6x4 table - you've got 1975mm (6.5 feet) of frontage to pack in there! I guess MoS means you're not worrying about cascading panics, but I think taking fewer, better units is preferable to spamming quite that many weaker ones (5x hounds, 6x horsies).

- Salvage

Apologies for lack of explanation, but I deleted what I was going to say twice, everything I had to say is explained in the list.

L: Lord - MoS, hellfire sword, collar, shield, barded steed = 349
H:Exalted - Shield;Steed;Axe of Khorne;M.o.S;B.S.B = 206
H: Sorcerer - MoS, golden eye, scroll, roar, steed of slaanesh = 185

C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96


S: 6 Knights - M.o.S, standard, musician = 280
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 6 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 280

Thats 2260 points, I was thinking of dropping the musician off of the Lords unit of Knights, thoughts?

Yea, that's probably a safe one to drop. Sad times if those dudes are fleeing and need Ld10 to rally

Also: sooo many knights O_O

- Salvage

Yeah, that would be sad times.

Alright, so two lists perfected to Lord Salvage's Knowledge, only one more to go.

Damn you, Sigvald. You cost too much.

L: Lord - MoS, hellfire sword, collar, shield, barded steed = 349
H:Exalted - Shield;Steed;Axe of Khorne;M.o.S;B.S.B = 206
H: Sorcerer - MoS, golden eye, scroll, roar, steed of slaanesh = 185

C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96


S: 6 Knights - M.o.S, standard, musician = 280
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard = 230
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 6 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 280

A thought: what about dropping the standard from the BSB's unit? Not saying the extra CR isn't nice, but aesthetically that's a lot of flags in one unit. I personally would rather have musician + 1 standard than 2 standards ... The extra 10 points would translate into favor for the BSB and grilled cheese for the lord

(As in, I have no idea what those 5 points do )

I will say that 1+ unit of throwaway dogs is often a nice idea, for chucking under fanatics or diverting. IF it were me, I'd probably dig into the BSB's AoK for points - make it a SoM, which combines with that extra 5 points for a unit of puppy chow. KB is nice, but having dogs to throw under the bus might be nicer.

Kinda like this!

L: Lord - MoS, hellfire sword, collar, shield, steed = 349
H: Exalted - MoS, BSB, sword of might, favor, shield, steed = 186
H: Sorcerer - MoS, golden eye, scroll, roar, steed of slaanesh = 185

C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Warhounds = 30

S: 6 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 280
S: 6 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 280
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 5 Knights - MoS, musician = 220

- Salvage

Holy mother of god, I deleted what I was going to say AGAIN.

I don't want to buy a box of hounds, lol, and I don't think 1 unit is that great.

I like your other change though.

L: Lord - MoS, hellfire sword, collar, shield, barded steed = 349
H:Exalted - Shield;Steed;Axe of Khorne;M.o.S;B.S.B = 206
H: Sorcerer - MoS, golden eye, scroll, roar, steed of slaanesh = 185

C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96
C: 5 Horsemen - MoS, musician, flails, light armor = 96


S: 6 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 280
S: 6 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 280
S: 5 Knights - MoS, standard, musician = 240
S: 5 Knights - MoS, musician = 220

10 points left, no idea what to spend it on.