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So i am teaming with a VC player for BOLSCON. He is taking the Lord and i am taking the BSB. Im over points, no where to shave them off. Any advice would be awesome!

Thane(kept near his units)
-Master Rune of Valaya
-BSB

Master Engineer(hard crewmen to kill goes with reloading cannon)
-Master Rune of Gromril
-Rune of Shielding
-Brace of Pistols

Master Engineer(goes with unbreakable cannon, hard to kill with shooting//magic)
-Rune of Shielding
-Rune of Warding x2
-Brace of Pistols

10 Thunderers
10 Thunderers

Cannon(4 shots to stand and shoot with hero)
-Engineer
--Brace of Pistols
-Rune of Forging
-Rune of Reloading

Cannon(unbreakable cannon with MR2)
-Engineer
--Brace of Pistols
-Rune of Forging
-Vailant Rune

Bolt Thrower(kill chariots and regen things)
-Engineer
-+1 str
-Flaming

Bolt Thrower(standard bolt thrower)
-Engineer
-+1str

Organ Gun

I will dwindle things down while he protects me and raises things in-front of me. He goes in and cleans things up
Seems we have nice anti magic, armour and monster in army.

It would be nice to know what rules you have to follow for your makeup and how many points you are over. I am guessing he provides the other core choices.

I would substitute another thane for one of your master engineers. Probably the 2x warding and shielding one. The other one, I would probably lose the rune of shielding too, the hits will be randomized between the other crewmen and machine anyway.

I would lose the engineers on your cannons at least on the one with a master attached to it.

Dwarf war machines are already stubborn so the valiant rune really isn't needed.

I would put the rune of guarding on your BSB too.

So I would drop a rune of penetration on a bolt thrower, valiant rune, brace of pistols, the engineer and brace of pistols, probably the reloading rune too, and the master engineer w/ shielding, and wardings. I would pick up the rune of guarding for the BSB, and put in a thane w/ swiftness, fury, cleaving, and stone, with a shield. That is a 4 str5 ASF attacks with a 2+ AS. (not too bad) Keep him close to your BSB for some more protection. That is just my humble opinion though.

we each bring a 1250 list with the normal rules but one person can take a lord instead of a hero, and only 1 BSB per army.

Boogey's asking how many points you need to shave. I could add up your list, but it would be easy for you to just let us know how much you need to drop.

Also handy to know roughly what's in your partner's list.

Easiest off the bat is to swap the reloading rune for a burning rune. Flaming D6 wounds cannon is going to worry some things. That doesn't get you much, but then, I don't know how much you need. Next I'd drop pistols from the war machines, or reduce one bolt thrower to strength 6.

RZ