I Think Dark Eldar May no Longer be Safe From Updates

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**Boss 'eadbreaka**

After visiting my nearest GW store about a fortnight ago, I noticed that they were having 'a model of the month' painting competition and the model of the month happened to be the Dark Eldar Incubi. To enter, you had to buy a box of Incubis, paint them and enter them in the comp.
Seeing this, I mused to my friend jokingly, 'Maybe they're just trying to get rid of the stuff that's going to be updated'.
However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Are the DE no longer update proof?

**Phryxis**

However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Uhhh, what?

**LunaHound**

Phryxis wrote:
However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Uhhh, what?

Sounds like something a red shirt would say alright.

**Ouze**

I don't live anywhere near a GWS shop, but if I did, I'd try as hard as I could to get a job there, even though I'm pretty confident it would pay less then what I did now - solely for the satisfaction of trolling the customers and seeing what outlandish rumors I could get on Dakka/Warseer/BOLS etc etc.

"Yeah, plastic thunderhawks in two months. Don't tell anyone I said so, though, or I'll have to ban you from the store".

**Khestra the Unbeheld**

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:
However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Knife him. Discretion is the better part of valor.

**Ouze**

Khestra the Unbeheld wrote:
Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:
However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Knife him. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Agree with the knifing (but, when don't i?) - but disagree with the discretion. When something's worth doing, it's worth doing while screaming "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!"

**Noisy_Marine**

Sounds like he didn't want you telling the truth!

**TheTrueProtoman**

Well what he was really saying is Dark eldar was a code word for a dead hooker. Now when you have a dead hooker you have to get that gak out of the place before it smells and you draw attention. Which painting was another codeword for distraction, combine the two with "Painting the Dark Eldar" and you have yourself one fine hooker clean up crew on its way.

**Ostrakon**

Ouze wrote:I don't live anywhere near a GWS shop, but if I did, I'd try as hard as I could to get a job there, even though I'm pretty confident it would pay less then what I did now - solely for the satisfaction of trolling the customers and seeing what outlandish rumors I could get on Dakka/Warseer/BOLS etc etc.

"Yeah, plastic thunderhawks in two months. Don't tell anyone I said so, though, or I'll have to ban you from the store".

Actually, you could just save time trolling people by posting threads about how you heard a conversation like that!

**Temporis**

I don't want my dark eldar to be updated :[

I love the overdone models and crazy wargear.

**Tim the Biovore**

Red Shirts are trained, in GW's secret underground lair, to always act out when someone mentions an update. Most of the time, I suspect, it is just to make them look big, even if there is no update at all. If I go into a store and talk about how DA will get an update soon, the same reaction will ensue.

**Howard A Treesong**

The GW in Cardiff (UK) had a fair selection of DE stuff some time after christmas, couldn't believe it. There were several Raiders, a Talos or two, a Ravager or two and a box of DE warriors and maye some other odds and ends.

**Kroothawk**

Dark Eldar Codex due within 12 months. Story is that they got a complete redo background and modelwise. Jes Goodwin got all the time needed to resculpt the entire range, so no release dates told for a long time. Most is ready now including plastic kits. Many sculpts have been seen and made people enthusiastic about the release, even non-DE players. Design seems close to the rulebook art, with sails on the raiders.

Harry from Warseer wrote:Seems to me if we are nearly ready to roll these out including a number of plastic kits (with long production times) that he must have been pretty steadily knocking these out since soon after he finished the Eldar whilst taking time off to just knock out such classics as the Dark Elf cold one riders and the Khorne Lord on Jugger seemingly Just for fun!

Harry from Warseer wrote:There has been no waffle or ambiguity in any statements I have heard about this project ... in fact they have been more open and up front about the development of this project than almost any other.
When they have said anything at all they have said very clearly what is going on and why. They have said things like: 'We are doing Dark Eldar', "We have asked Jes to have a crack at them', 'The whole range needs attention', 'It is a big project and we are going to give it the time it deserves', 'We are going to give Jes the time he needs to nail them', 'They will be released when they are done' 'This won't be for a while'. (...)
They will not be pushed back, nor will they be late.
They will, much like a wizard, arrive exactly when they are supposed to.
We just don't know exactly when that is yet.
I know it seems like the "DE status quo" but it just seems that way. Things have moved on a bit. I have a fair notion of where they are at with this project and it has gone beyond 'One day, someday sometime, never'. Given where the models and the book is at ... these guys ARE coming sooner rather than later.

Less confirmed is this:

Shadowdeth from Warseer wrote:Dicelikethunder's podcast from the other day stated that the book is done, the models need a 3 month lead (due out in Sept/Oct '10) time and claims they recieved an email from a playtester detailing some of the new rules.

Reavers being able to drag a model away with their chains from a hit and run on a failed save, and then bomb it (strength 4 small blast) on a unit it passes over with it's next 24 inch move - causing them to go to ground if they take a wound.

The Talos being a walker "of sorts", recieving a -3 for glances and a -2 for pens?

A Haemonculi character upgrade dominating run down units (presumably taking control of the unit instead of destroying it), and that the book was deemed too weak and was initially sent back to have it's power upped.

Taken from this extensive thread on the new Dark Eldar Codex:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246627

Plus this rumour:

axiom from Warseer wrote:I heard last week from an excellent internal source that the following new figures are currently at the moulding room at GW’s manufacturing facility at Lenton. The models are currently being scanned/digitally edited in preparation for tooling, have had / are having the moulds tooled, or first sprues have been produced:

• Eldar Night Spinner (first production sprues). Supposedly this is an add-on sprue to the Falcon kit with a turret similar to the FW kits.
• Re-cut Vyper (mould tooled). Don’t know if the pilot or gunner have been resculpted.
• Dark Eldar Ravager (digital editing). Weaponry very much of Eldar aesthetic, a few spikes and what appears to be a sail similar in fashion to a multi-strutted, slightly spiky Eldar BFG wraithship feel.

**Lorne**

Well other models then the released cold ones and juggernaught has Jes done recently?

**Kroothawk**

Keep in mind that he is in charge of the plastic department, so he is busy even without sculpting

**Howlingmoon**

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:After visiting my nearest GW store about a fortnight ago, I noticed that they were having 'a model of the month' painting competition and the model of the month happened to be the Dark Eldar Incubi. To enter, you had to buy a box of Incubis, paint them and enter them in the comp.
Seeing this, I mused to my friend jokingly, 'Maybe they're just trying to get rid of the stuff that's going to be updated'.
However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Are the DE no longer update proof?

only update they're getting is the "Update: They've been eaten by Tyranids. Get over it." update.

**BrassScorpion**

A Dark Eldar update has been a long time coming, but it was bound to happen eventually. Rumors that it is now not too far away are all over the place, here too.

**Farmer**

Maybe DE are next

**Howlingmoon**

Next on the menu for lunch maybe.

**lord_blackfang**

BrassScorpion wrote:A Dark Eldar update has been a long time coming, but it was bound to happen eventually. Rumors that it is now not too far away are all over the place, here too.

Ohmygosh, if BOLS said it, it must be true!

**Sidstyler**

Dark Eldar Codex due within 12 months. Story is that they got a complete redo background and modelwise. Jes Goodwin got all the time needed to resculpt the entire range, so no release dates told for a long time. Most is ready now including plastic kits. Many sculpts have been seen and made people enthusiastic about the release, even non-DE players. Design seems close to the rulebook art, with sails on the raiders.

I'll believe it when they're on the advanced orders page.

**Ketara**

I'm inclined to believe, simply because if they were going to squat them, they would have done it by now.

**gil gerard**

TheTrueProtoman wrote:Well what he was really saying is Dark eldar was a code word for a dead hooker. Now when you have a dead hooker you have to get that gak out of the place before it smells and you draw attention. Which painting was another codeword for distraction, combine the two with "Painting the Dark Eldar" and you have yourself one fine hooker clean up crew on its way.

I hafta assume this is gonna involve Harvey Keitel, John Travolta and Samual Jackson scooping up bits of brain and skull from the backseat of an old Chevy Nova...

**Mr. Burning**

TheTrueProtoman wrote:Well what he was really saying is Dark eldar was a code word for a dead hooker. Now when you have a dead hooker you have to get that gak out of the place before it smells and you draw attention. Which painting was another codeword for distraction, combine the two with "Painting the Dark Eldar" and you have yourself one fine hooker clean up crew on its way.

In a game store?

Hooker must be codeword for greasy burgers and pizza. Some one dropped their Burger King.

I overheard a wargamer at a GW store state 'my girlfriend blew me' they were right. The Blood Angels codex is happening.

**spacewolflord**

I find it odd that Red Shirts would want people to be quite about things like releases. As my story when asked, if they know, they will be very coy about it for a few weeks then to drum up interest. Then give out little bits here and there to trully stook the fires.
This secert business is just odd to me, they want people to know about what is new and cool around the corner.

**wspatterson**

Irritation, thy name is Red Shirt.

**Bloodthirster**

Farmer wrote:Maybe DE are next

Not before Black Templars, Dark Angles and a new Codex Space Marines

I hope they are though!

**Black Blow Fly**

Ketara wrote:I'm inclined to believe, simply because if they were going to squat them, they would have done it by now.

I don't know about that... Considering all the hate GW received when they dropped the squats I can see them simply not saying anything and never releasing a new codex. Two years ago at Adepticon Phil Kelly said they would eventually get a new codex but it still hasn't happened yet. It's too bad.

Here is a list of races that still need a new codex:

Black Templars
Dark Angels*
Daemon Hunters/Witch Hunters
Necrons
Tau
Eldar*
Dark Eldar

Did I miss any? Dark Eldar are probably the least popular of those listed above. From a purely business perspective POV why release a new codex for the least popular race. I am thinking it will be very interesting to see which race gets the next new codex.

G

**Shadowbrand**

sidstyler said it best.

I will believe it when I see in bold letters. "INCOMING DARK ELDAR"

Other then that I won't quit my day job on it.

**Khestra the Unbeheld**

Ouze wrote:
Khestra the Unbeheld wrote:
Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:
However, a red shirt overheard me and asked me how I knew that and not to mention it again or else I would be thrown out of the store.

Knife him. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Agree with the knifing (but, when don't i?) - but disagree with the discretion. When something's worth doing, it's worth doing while screaming "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!"

Not discretion on the part of the knifer, discretion on the part of the victim. When I'm talking about someone and that someone tells me to shut up and then threatens me over it, it stands to reason they've just defeated the purpose of telling me to shut up, because that's practically confirmed that what I was saying was correct, else there would have been no reaction. If the Red Shirts want tio stifle rumors, threatening to kick people out isn't the solution; keeping their own yaps shut is.

It also means that there wouldn't be anything to get knifed over.