Help with NMM - Sanguinor WIP

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**aliengod3**

I just wanted to get a critique of my NMM. I am new to it and cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. I am also having trouble with smoothness. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

**JesusFreak**

Mate, looks pretty damn good to me so far!

**Breotan**

The face looks okay, although the brown spot on the forhead is a little odd. Generally isn't it light colors on surfaces facing up and dark colors on surfaces facing down?

**LunaHound**

aliengod3 wrote:I just wanted to get a critique of my NMM. I am new to it and cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. I am also having trouble with smoothness. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

There is nothing wrong with the smoothness.
Its just reflective metal doesnt behave the same way normal object shades.

**xxRavenxx**

The main thing missing that I can see on his face, is any yellow shades.

I presume hes meant to be gold?

Jumping from brown to white without transition colours makes him look a bit like the lion from the wizard of oz

This shows off an nmm with more yellow used in the transitions.

I personally think thats what you need to correct.

The actual shading, and such, is spot on. Though I agree with the others that the forhead is a little odd as a "dark spot".

**LunaHound**

**aliengod3**

Ya the face was real problematic for me. I kept placing highlights over the previous layers so the blend did not turn out very well. I will try a wash of yellow to tone done the white. I have a problem with going overboard when I try new techniques and I definitely went overboard with the white. I may just repaint the face.

**SgtSixkilla**

I think it looks awesome. I'd be really proud to get that result.

**brush_slip**

Yea you do need some more yellow, but you are past basic NMM already. Which way did you do it? This will be the deciding factor of smoothness. Wet blend= smooth, but a very hard transition. Layering= Slightly noticable brush strokes, but a very subtle transition. Shadowing= ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE for NMM. Any way good start. The sword is great, it just has too many reflective spots. Metal doesnt have that many.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4771315/2/istockphoto_4771315-sword-cross-swords.jpg

If you look the transition to white reflecting is at the tips and in the very areas that light hits, otherwise it is a blend into a light gray. Great job though, Just add a bit more yellow to the brown.

**Gunzhard**

I think your blade looks fantastic.

**aliengod3**

I appreciate the feedback, thanks! I have been using layering only. Easier on the blade because it is long so easier to get nice blends but I am having trouble getting my paint to flow correctly on the face which is partly why it looks a bit harsh (that and too much white).

@Brush_slip: I agree about the reflective spots. Maybe that is why I think it is not looking believable. I am actually using the sanguinor painted by GW as a guide to figure this NMM thing out.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat400010a&prodId=prod550014a

**aliengod3**

Here is a pic of the most recent picture I have. NMM is pretty difficult to pull off...

**Gunzhard**

I'm certainly no NMM expert... but just as a fan and observer I'd say you are lacking the middle tone.
It's either brown or off white. You've already surpassed my skill level so I can't offer much in the way of technique.

...but I'd say overall it looks like he is wearing very shiny brown armour, instead of gold. I really do love that sword though.

**aliengod3**

Ya you are right. I guess I focused all of my mid tones in the same area again so they all get lost under lighter highlights :( Maybe I will get the legs and arms right...

**StubbyGB**

The sword looks awesome.

**Empchild**

Your heading down the right path and doing great, just a couple of things. One always use white primer for things like this. Two I would dile back the face a little bit as it is VERY bright. Three look at metal in the light and you can see how the brightest/shiniest part is generally the top end as light is reflecting down and then away. You don't want to line as much around with the extreme highlight as it defeats the purpose of what your trying to do. All in all though great stuff and I easecially LOVE and I mean LOVE the sword!!!

**JSK-Fox**

I think it looks kind of bronze-like, and is really damn good.
Good job mate.

**Khornholio**

I'm having a similar problem with NMM gold at the moment. The white is a total kick in the teeth. The face looks amazing as does the sword. His pecks look like they might have missed a mid-late highlight in there. I found that mixing paints to get NMM it was best to do the whole figure to ensure I got the same tone through out.

Looking good!

**jah-joshua**

good to see you've made the move over from CMON, Damien...
these forums are much more active...

are you following the pics in the WD article, 'cause it seems like you're not using the pics for reference of where exactly to lay down the layers...
it shouldn't be so difficult, with the 9 or 10 stages in the article's pics...
i'm sure i will eat my words as soon as i start on mine

...

@Empchild: i'm of the opposite opinion...
the colors start from Scorched Brown, so there is no benefit from using White Primer...

cheers
jah

**aliengod3**

Glad everyone likes the sword. I wish the entire model were as easy to paint as it was.

Hey Jah! I started following the article for the face and sword but for some reason I got lost in my painting session and forgot to reference the article for the chest which is why it looks a bit odd.

After reading some of the initial comments I found some pictures online to help me figure out the midtones. I have a couple of good colors on hand that I can use for the midtones so I will try adding them to the mini while I work on the arms, legs and backpack.

Also I am still having trouble getting real fine lines. I think once I can master very fine lines I will be on a good path. Still have to figure out paint flow for this...

**aliengod3**

I had a bit of time today to work on this mini. Painted the arms and thighs. Painted different from the article because the reflections did not look right so I painted them the way they are now. Pretty happy with how everything is looking. Critiques are always welcome

**Sidstyler**

I think it looks amazing so far.

**Morgrim**

Very nice, you've nailed the metallic look. Although I still think it looks more like polished copper or bronze than it does gold.

**brush_slip**

I think it looks great. I really like the darkness of the gold, almost a bronzed look. Great job. All of the highlights are hit right and the sword looks better in the updated pics, im not sure if you changed it, it may be the angle of this one.

**Frostreaver**

Frankly, I'm jealous. It looks fantastic. I'll agree with the above posters that yes, it does look more bronze than gold, however, it's still awesome.

Great work, keep it up!

**MajorTom11**

Update pls!

**Tim the Biovore**

Honestly, you thought you needed help? Man, I would have to be the luckiest man on Earth to get an effect even half as good.

**son_of_marneus**

I like the brass colouration, it makes a refreshing change from spangly gold. It looks really good, I'm jealous of your nmm skills.