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So, what's everyones preferred choice in optics? Caliber?
9mm, 5.56, and 12 gauge.
Optics wise, well...I used to hate optics. Then I found out what an aimpoint micro was, swallowed gravel when I paid for one in a larue QD mount as a test, thinking that if it failed me as every other optic (Cheap low end stuff all) had, I would be able to sell it to some mall ninja and at least break even. Two years later, I don't want to run without one. Certainly could, still keep up with iron sights, but I don't WANT to.
....and all my mounts that require QD are now larue as well...
....That particular optic now occasionally has a 3x magnifier running behind it too....
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.303 was once very prolific, now difficult to find. It may be that those surplus stores remain mostly in the former Empire.
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A lot of the old surplus ammo has dried up here in the states. .303, 7mm,8mm, .30 Mauser are not sold by the bucket load cheaply anymore. However a Serbian manufacturer Privi partizan make many of the old military calibers, for a reasonable price.
Makarov wrote:Does anyone here have any experience with Mosin Nagants?
They kick like a mule. Sucky action. Probably could be run over by a tank. If you're not getting one of the FInnish ones, it might have been run over by a tank.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Does anyone here have any experience with Mosin Nagants?
The action sucks, the trigger sucks, the safety -REALLY- sucks, the stock sucks, the sling attachment points suck (unless you have an issue sling for it.)....
But the target on the 600 yard berm still would not have been any more dead if I had borrowed my friends M1A (With requisite hubble space telescope bolted to the top of the thing.) to make the shots. It's a good gun if you manage to find an example that doesn't have a moonscape-like bore, it's just about as unrefined as you can get.
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Finally a gun thread that just feels right posting in.
All the other threads got me thinking so I stopped by the PD the other day and filled out some paperwork... picked up my permit to purchase an hour ago. Now I can go buy handguns and assault type rifles in MN!
First buy is probably going to be a H&K USP compact in 9mm, with the potential purchase of a threaded barrel to go with it (they don't have the option from the factory, but have factory threaded barrels)
After that it is saving money for Germany and for another purchase after I get back... either another hand gun, or rifle, either ar15 or ak.
Makarov wrote:Does anyone here have any experience with Mosin Nagants?
They kick like a mule. Sucky action. Probably could be run over by a tank. If you're not getting one of the FInnish ones, it might have been run over by a tank.
As an aside the NRA mag has an article about a company that is turning out new Mausers. I can't remember if they are the K98 Karbines or the earlier preWWII style.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Makarov wrote:Does anyone here have any experience with Mosin Nagants?
I literally have nothing good to say about them. The one good thing I usedto have was they were cheap, but now at any price over $40 they are overpriced junk.
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
Kodanshi wrote:I don’t know if I could cope with spelling colour as color…
Seriously, though, I’ve thought about it — but doesn’t America have extremely stringent entry laws?
Well first I wouldn't bother changing how you spell armour and Colour as that is quite clearly how they were meant to be spelled. I've spelled Afrika well THAT way my entire life, and in Uni no one has even batted an eye.
As far as immigration as long as you have a marketable skill to get a work visa and patience with the process it's not so bad. The actual process is probably ridiculous, I imagine there's one or more folks on Dakka that have done it.
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Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
Do it. It will only improve your shooting, but be aware that you may be buying a lot of gear in the following months . Once people start moving around and actually trying to engage targets at various ranges, seems like a lot of them find that what they currently have doesn't work quite as well as it looked like it would on paper.
Myself I have gone through a boatload of slings, mag pouches, and holsters.
Oh...and you'll need ammo. Become accustomed to bulk ammo prices (And discounts!)
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SOFDC wrote:Oh...and you'll need ammo. Become accustomed to bulk ammo prices (And discounts!)
Reloading is key. I am converting a bedroom into hobby room replete with loading bench et al.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
SOFDC wrote:Oh...and you'll need ammo. Become accustomed to bulk ammo prices (And discounts!)
Reloading is key. I am converting a bedroom into hobby room replete with loading bench et al.
Great minds think alike.
Mine was technically an office. Then my minis, paints, and airbrush joined, then my safe and ammo storage cabinet. Now I'm looking for a reloader that won't break the bank, preferably progressive, that will do handgun, rifle, and shot gun. If that's not possible I'll go for a progressive for shotgun and load everything else one at a time.
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
Yep, just have to figure a way to clear out some old furniture then its off we go reloading. Not doing 3 gun right now. First option is IDPA as there’s a range that has competitions every Thursday so that fits my “I’m just a travelin man” lifestyle, and its less expensive of the wallet.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
I much prefer clay shooting to three gun, it's just not my thing. Which is why I sold all my gas guns.
Well ya see, I like targets that don't move around so much (Seeing as the reason FOR the gun is to make things stop moving) and I don't like it too terribly much when the targets are small...and clays don't qualify in either category!
Reloading is key.
I went for the alternate path. My AR15 and my G17 both eat wolf just as well as they eat federal. Much less time consuming! Reloading is what I will do when I finally get around to buying a Ye Olde Bolt Gun with Ye Olde Hubble Space Telescope.
I hear ya. However even with Wolf (hah get some brass bear ammo for "cheap") pistol shooting is off the chart on expensive. reloading is usually less expensive.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Yep. Thats why we love .22lr. I can shoot 550 (a day's shooting) for $18.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
KingCracker wrote:Pistol is pretty pricey (with the exception of .22 of course) my brother rarely shoots his .40 because even "cheap" ammo for it is pretty pricey
What are we talking per 50 because I get mine for about the same as 38
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
KingCracker wrote:Pistol is pretty pricey (with the exception of .22 of course) my brother rarely shoots his .40 because even "cheap" ammo for it is pretty pricey
What are we talking per 50 because I get mine for about the same as 38
I'd imagine they'd be closer to .45ACP on the cost front but I could be extremely wrong. I just know I can get 9mms about $8 - $9 a box if I am careful and hit sales/really cheap foreign stuff.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Looks like a 50rd box depending on what type and brand, is like 20-40 bucks. I guess thats not too bad really. Dunno what hes complaining about then I just know he shows up, and I get to fire a few mags
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
and 
WIP
. Once people start moving around and actually trying to engage targets at various ranges, seems like a lot of them find that what they currently have doesn't work quite as well as it looked like it would on paper.